Now i'm not a racist, but……

I've lived in a country where nearly everyone was Muslim, and the call to prayer was going off all through the day
Never heard a church bell though.

Never thought to mention it to anyone either. They'd not have listened anyway !.

It was their culture, their way of life and while I lived in their country, I accepted it and accept it still !.

I repsected their ways, the ways of the people and their culture, in that place…
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Are you getting the message ?.

I've just scanned over the posts since I posted, and some of it has gone a bit OTT, imo.

TJ, Hi. 🙂

I like diversity, it enriches our lives. However, That door swings both ways !.

When in England during the summertime, to look out across our glorious English countryside, on a sun drenched day while out on a ride, only to hear the distant chime of church bells, is totally what makes England/UK what it is in my mind and to the minds of the rest of the world (think tourism).

But !!!!!, when I go to the middle east, when I experience their world and listen to that call to prayer, see the mosques, when I go to the markets, amongst other things, then that is wonderful too and I know thats their way of life. And I think it is wonderful for its difference.

Diversity is a wonderful thing.

So, to my mind, difference is good, and more importantly, worth preserving. Not to fight over, but to preserve for what it can give us all.

So, while in the middle-east, lets hear that call to prayer, but while in the UK, lets hear the chime of that church bell. And most importantly, lets all appreciate, positively, the differernce.

CC.

nazi cockmonkey………………….. ❓
did someone call for me…………..

Funnilly enough though, what with Mohammed having been around a little bit before the invention of the loudspeaker, there's nothing in the quran that says that the adhan should be broadcast. Sometimes it would be called from a minaret, sometimes just in the mosque. So to me it's not really a matter of cultural sensitivity, since the amplified adhan isn't a tradition.

(to me it sounds fairly brilliant called without augmentation, by someone who really knows his yodelling, but from a loudspeaker it just tends to sound like, well, noise.)

Anokdale said,

"Like church bells", Like to see you start ring Church Bells in Triploi where i am, see how far you get, tolerance my left buttock cheek, when it suits certain people. It has been a long day today with these characters.

Yes, because other places might not be tolerant of church bells, we should be intolerant of this. I remember being taught about 2 wrongs making a right 😉

Dobbo, the UK sharia thing is a complete straw man, as you might already be aware- UK sharia courts would be no different from the jewish Beth Din, which are already in place in the UK and have been for many years. For that matter it's no different from ACAS. People only object to this because they find muslims more alarming than jews. Operating within UK law is different from being part of UK law.

Trailmonkey wrote,

"I'd say anyone who considers the worldwide islamic population to be homogeneous is guilty of a little stereotyping themselves."

FWIW TJ said "considered to be homogenous", not that he considers it homogenous. But it's a fact that to a lot of people, to think of a muslim is to think of an arab, despite islam being predominantly an asian-pacific religion now. And that's why the line between racism and bigotry isn't as clear as people would like to think. Anti-islamic feeling in the UK thrives off anti-arabic feeling and vice versa.

Thank you northwind. exactly what I ment

Captain crash – which do you mean – England or the UK – they are not synonymous

Neither church bells nor the call to prayer are part of my Uk. I can't think when I last heard either apart from in continental Europe.

"nazi cockmonkey…………………..
did someone call for me………….."
No ton, that was meant just for tombola or whatever your alter ego was called 😉

I just don't like horrible people, whatever their colour.

I like nice people, whatever their colour. Although Ghanaians seem to be a particularly amicable breed.

If there is one thing I cannot stand it is intolerance

If there is one thing I cannot stand it is intolerance

Think I just heard a drumkit fall out of a window…

looks like a few posts are missing including enfits original one.

All my posts are still there TJ including my original one, clear as day

If there is one thing I cannot stand it is intolerance

What utter nonsense, you CLEARLY only tolerate certain views and opinions.

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Whats that wooshing noise? Something just flown over your head enfit?

You are right tho that your original post is there – I must have missed it when I looked.

Mitch,I was in the Tesco's at Stairfoot this morning,and found some lovely Galettes Bretonnes,lovely with a nice cup of coffee.How's the sense of humour transplant research going BTW? It looks like we need it here.
Ian

Anything at all to do with broadcasting religion is an irritating stupidity.

Try getting as many neighbours as possible to complain about it on the grounds of noise nuisance. I recall a similar move (somewhere in Wiltshire, if memory serves) has worked and stopped bell-ringing practice in a local "Pointless Building for Xtians"…

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Not being funny but …

IN 1910 the Home Secretary, Winston Churchill memorably said that the civilisation of a society can be judged by the way it treats its prisoners.

The Lord Chief Justice, Lord Woolf, was making much the same point in his British Academy speech on Tuesday. A democratic society is to be judged not by its success in catering to the needs of its privileged members or even its average ones. Instead, look at how it treats the poor, the disadvantaged, the ill – and the unpopular.

thejesmonddingo – we're very cultured here in the peoples republic now you know, though I'm still very partial to a plate of pig bag. This thread is bloody hopeless without any rabid nazis to shout at. I have a huge vitriolic bag of insults here, and at this rate they'll have gone off before christmas!