I believe that what mcmoonter describes is compulsory for at least 18% of all users of the M27 and M3. Of those at least half must cross the hatchings during the manouevre.

You need to include the M3/A34 split, a flippin’ nightmare. 😐

It’s obviously NOT a Northern thing because here in the North there are no 3 lane roads.

Motorways are dual carriageways…

A controversial point milud…
A38(M) may be the only non central reservationed motorway in the UK? However I’m not sure if they ever run it without the central lane clear which might still make it a dual carriageway.

I’ll shut up.

A38(M)

Correct. Motorway but single carriageway.

But only a couple of miles, and never run without a lane gap as a “central reservation”

M8….. 😮
A1 Alfreton junction………….. 👿 😥

The specialism in the south is simply barreling down the sliproad, no indicator, not looking and somehow expecting a gap to emerge immediately alongside in 3 lanes of slow-moving traffic without any adjustment in speed and immediately traverse across to the outside lane in one manoeuvre.

Whenever I think about whether it’s worth passing more slow moving traffic prior to making a slip road, I always remind myself of the consequences.

And as I’m not that bothered about someone I’m never going to meet thinking I’m a bell end (for not actually causing a crash), the consequences are low.

I need to get a life where saving seconds is absolutely vital. Most of my driving is done either going to work (where a few minutes late won’t make a difference) or going home again (which again a few minutes late won’t hurt). Other people must be going somewhere so much more important than me to drive like absolute knobs.

We live in an age of self-important twunts, they’re everywhere.
I blame social media/online forums.

Whatever you do, don’t drive in Belgium. We got sliproad/ 2nd lane single sweep’d last month by a guy doing about 60kmh less than I was doing. fortunately I had my Michelin CrossClimate+ tyres on so the cold and wet conditions were handled with no drama – except for my co-driver waking up very suddenly as I had to brake hard enough for the hazards to start flashing and then swerve into the 3rd lane. About 20 minutes later when he finally inched past me he then pulled violently in front (close, real close) then brake checked me. Which was nice.

I believe that what mcmoonter describes is compulsory for at least 18% of all users of the M27 and M3. Of those at least half must cross the hatchings during the manouevre.

The m27 split from the m3 is sure to show you the worst in driving.

I seem to be seeing loads more of it right now.

In fact I am seeing more stupid and impatient driving full stop. Like this morning, driving through Leeds on a one-way system. I was in the right hand lane, guy in the left hand lane realised he needed to turn into an industrial estate on the right so needed to go across my lane. He stopped and indicated, I stopped and waited for him to move. Next thing, some clown in a pimped up all matt black VW Polo came racing up behind him, sounding his horn and waving madly and trying to swerve past us both. I mean, this all happened in the space of about 5 seconds – couldn’t the guy just chill for a second and wait for the guy that had made a simple mistake to move out of his way?

Try driving in South Wales, no one has ever been told how to use their indicators (or brains it would seem). They all speed in a 30 and do 50 on the motorway.

Bunch of retards.

They don’t seem to do the cutting into the slip road thing, but they do do the slowing down to allow someone to merge which makes me wish i had machineguns fitted into my headlights.

simply barreling down the sliproad, no indicator

Although I do indicate, as much out of habit as anything, I do wonder why, since if you’re barreling (driving at, or accelerating to, motorway speed, to put it less emotively) down a sliproad that joins a motorway, there isn’t really much scope for confusing other motorists as to what your next manoeuvre’s going to be, is there?

If you see someone doing this, and not indicating, has anyone ever thought “oh, they must not be intending to join the carriageway?”

Well except on the M25 since all 3 or 4 or 5 lanes are usually full in the rush hours – hard to move across one lane!

I was going to say I barely see it these days. This is probably why.

jam bo – Member
Doesn’t happen in Cornwall. We don’t have roads with three lanes down ere.

Sometimes it feels like we barely have roads once you get past Truro

Every time I get up into the Northern English conurbation I am shocked by how shite the driving is including many things like the OP describes. Definitely not that bad south of the M56.

Every time I get up into the Northern English conurbation I am shocked by how shite the driving is including many things like the OP describes. Definitely not that bad south of the M56.

And every time I am anywhere near a big city I am shocked by the driving standards.

When I visit head office in Winchester, I am shocked by how MUCH traffic there is. 😯

Well the number and proximity of cities in that Northern belt is likely the issue.

When the M1 was being widened and it was a 50 I was cruising along the inside lane (cruise control at 51) at Donington when a bellend comes screaming up the inside on the on slip and forces his way in between me and the bollards making me have to brake. This obviously got my ire as it meant I had to re-engage cruise, to which said bellend got the international coffebeans shake. I made sure he was looking when I did it, so he decided to completely anchor up from about 60, waving and shaking fists and looking over his shoulder. I repeated the gesture but by then he had floored it and was away. I really hope the cameras got him.
Twunt!

Had a good one Tueday, a reverse 4-lane slip road dash. Knackered old pug screams out of a slip road jct 18 M5 S, hasn’t noticed the customary stationary traffic in lane 1 for jct 19 because he is so intent on finding gaps for his 4-lane death gamble. Damn near rear ends me and properly puts the willies up the heavy traffic in lanes 2, 3 and 4.

Luckily I’m a driving god that watches his mirrors like a hawk, so I made use of the hard shoulder pronto. Missed the car in front of me by mere inches.

I do wonder why, since if you’re barreling (driving at, or accelerating to, motorway speed, to put it less emotively) down a sliproad that joins a motorway, there isn’t really much scope for confusing other motorists as to what your next manoeuvre’s going to be, is there?
If you see someone doing this, and not indicating, has anyone ever thought “oh, they must not be intending to join the carriageway?”

My assumption when I see this is that they’re going to be a tool about joining the motorway. There’s a high correlation between those kind of behaviours and confirmation of toolness.

Definitely happens in the South as well. My working assumption is quite a few of the traffic jams without any good reason is caused by numpties doing this whilst braking. Since they keep appearing coming up to a junction and vanishing right after.

The variant i really like is one I have seen a couple of times on the A1 to M25 turn off. It can get rather busy and seen a couple of times people getting right up to the junction and then just stopping in the inside lane hoping a space will appear before someone hits them from behind.

What tends to happen is the 2 slow lanes tend to be very congested, so you spend ages making progress in the fast lane. 1 mile goes very quickly so in order to make the junction in time you have to cut across the 2 lanes to get in. Its the bad driving of the people in the 2 slow lanes that cause this.

I always live in hope that I’ll encounter that sort of idiocy and then catch up with them later to find them embedded in the back of a large truck.
Why its so hard to pace your entry speed with a gap I’ll never know.

simply barreling down the sliproad, no indicator

No point. It only tells other drivers that the indicator is working.