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  • Just got sacked – out of the blue
  • Twunts – working there would have been a pain if they behve like that – It wouldn’t have got better.

    Premier Icon ART
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    Not surprised you feel numb, it’s a shock you’ve just experienced. Have a drink, talk it out, and consider it a lucky escape. Gather yourself back up, move on, good luck. 🙂

    Edit – oh and what TJ said too!

    bigsi
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    Wee on the door handle to their office one night when its not raining & hope your boss is the first one in to the office in the morning 😉

    *its one of those little things that will make you smile* 😆

    pingu66
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    In line with bigsi dog 5h1t on his car door handle.

    But having been there have a beer, chin up and get your cv polished up. Looking for work is a job itself. Try and look at it as a learning experience.

    Life looks crap at the moment but I hope you can look back at this in six months and think of it as a lucky escape.

    Kit
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    I got sacked in a similar fashion years ago. Had gone in on my day off to buy something, got taken into the owner’s office and given a letter saying that with immediate effect I was no longer an employee. I went and got shitfaced that night 😀 and ended up a month later with a job paying twice as much for fewer hours 😀

    Chin up dude!

    nealglover
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    Same happened to me a few years ago, it’s not a nice feeling at all.

    Ring some mates and go out for a few drinks and have a moan, take a couple of days to be hacked off about it. But then get on and sort it out. No point dwelling on it as that won’t help.

    I feel for you, as I knows it’s the wierdest feeling. Almost like feeling nothing at all.

    Premier Icon ourmaninthenorth
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    Cripes. Not good.

    There’s nothing like useful, honest feedback, is there. And you clearly got nothing like useful, honest feedback.

    At a guess, there was a simple financial decision taken and you were the cheapest and easiest to lose.

    Chin up indeed. And chalk it down to experience.

    what TJ said too!

    + 1

    JulianA
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    Sounds as though you have had a lucky escape from a rubbish employer – although it won’t feel like that right now – hopefully it will soon.

    Sadly, I’m pretty sure that you have no legal redress in your first year (or is it two years now?)

    I’m sure TJ would have said ‘get a lawyer’ or ‘join a union’ if there was an avenue worth exploring… (No offence, TJ – meant seriously!)

    What do you do, anyway?

    I’m sure TJ would have said ‘get a lawyer’ or ‘join a union’ if there was an avenue worth exploring

    Yep, you can legally be unfairly dismissed in the first 12 months of your employment. It used to be first 6 months but Thatcher changed it, and Tony Blair thought it was such a good idea that he kept it.

    EDIT : A trade union can do something about it but it would mean declaring a dispute, and since the likelihood of a successful ballot for industrial action are so small, it’s not worth pursuing. Trade unions in Britain are simply far too weak to successfully deal with situations like that.

    bikebouy
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    This isn’t going to sound nice but I think the company was just looking for a FTC or Temp role coverage but couldn’t quite bring themselves to be honest and up front about it.

    Shitty situ you face, not too sure there is a great deal about the situ you can do about it, though I’m no EmpLawyer..

    Hope you find something soon.

    Premier Icon tomhoward
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    Echoing whats been said, you’re probably better off not working for them given the way they have acted. Chin up, onwards and upwards etc.

    That said….. Would there be the option of legal redress as the OP made it through the probationary period? Otherwise what’s the point of having it? Should there not, at least, be a disciplinary procedure?

    redthunder
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    +1 TJ

    What asshole firm was it ?

    I had this too once – on a Friday. No warning, nothing, just – we don’t need you any more. Boss was a complete a***hole.

    I had a company car (a big Volvo estate) and somehow I managed to pull the sympathy card and convince them that I could keep the car over the weekend so that I could get around and have another car sorted before Monday.

    Needless to say the weekend was spent having probably as much fun as I’ve had in any car. Off to Mid Wales for some ‘fireroad fun’ RAC rally style on the Saturday. Speedhumps, humpback bridges and cattle grids taken without slowing down on the way home.

    Booked onto a track day on the Sunday. That must have looked quite strange turning up in a big Volvo. Yet the Volvo performed impressively in the kind of way that only a car that doesn’t belong to you could ever do. Surprised a few hot hatches that’s for sure.

    Dropped the car back on Monday and it looked pristine after a quick run through the jet wash. No cosmetic damage but at the very least I’m sure that the clutch and tyres would have needed replacing very soon afterwards. The handbrake felt like it was on it’s last legs and there was some very strange clunking sounds coming from the suspension.

    Premier Icon stumpyjon
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    Apparently my ‘face didn’t fit the business’. Been there six months, no previous warnings or even informal ‘your attitude needs adjusting’ type comments.

    Went to my monthly review with my manager, escorted off site an hour later. Ironically most of my reviews with my manager (about the only time I got speak to him) usually got moved repeatedly and then cancelled. Got my three month probabtionary review at 5 months, should’ve been held after 3 months. Even then I specifically asked if there was anything I was doing was a cause for concern or should be done differently, apparently everything was fine, pleased with my contributions.

    Feel a bit numb now.

    Premier Icon stumpyjon
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    I’m pretty sure I don’t have any legal redress. I’m a production manager / lean manufacturing engineer. I was taken on to help implement a big change program as I’d successfully done it before. Got offered the job on the spot before the interview had even finished they were that keen to have me. Did a good sell job on me as well.

    Once I got there things started to go pear shaped immediately. Just little things at first, went in for a day before I started, unpaid, got no lunch or even there’s a sandwich shop around the corner. My induction program collapsed fairly quickly and I was supposed to review each week with my boss on the Friday. Happened once out of the five times it was scheduled.

    It was over two months before I was officially slotted into the management structure, they kept putting it back. Really went down hill from there. Next to no face to face communication, meetings regularly postponed and then cancelled. Management by blunt email in the main.

    I won’t name the company but to suffice to say it was a large multi national people won’t have heard of. I think lucky escape may be a good way of looking at it. Down side is I thought I’d dodged a bullet, was made redundant 6 months ago after 7.5 years with my previous employer, walked into this job before I’d even finished my old one.

    Learnt a valuable lesson for the future though and won’t be taking things in good faith so readily.

    project
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    What job did you do, and what is the company called.

    Probably in the next few weeks youll realise you had a very lucky escape from a terrible company by the sound of it.

    Best wishes on finding a new job

    I need another ‘me’ in my job if you fancy working for a half arsed brewery in Hampshire for a few weeks .
    Hours = Rubbish
    Pay = Rubbish
    Conditions = OK
    Job satisfaction = Very good.

    Premier Icon captain_bastard
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    may not seem like it now, but lucky escape

    in a similar(ish) position at the moment, pretty sure i’m being ‘managed out’ – difficult not to take it personally, but business can be very cruel and seen it happen before to good people

    the danger would be staying in my job and becoming the brain washed arsehole they want!

    Premier Icon Alejandro
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    @NorthernStar thanks for the laugh.

    chewkw
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    In this economy climate you will find many backstabbing backside lickers at work … watch your back because they will screw you with a smile. Those maggots need to be stepped on and put in their place.

    tpbiker
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    You have no case, as others have said for unfair dismissal, but you are still entitled to your notice period..I assume they are prepared to pay you that?

    on a plus point it sounded like a shite place to work anyhow…so probably the best thing that could have happened.. in the long term.

    oh…and as a resourcing manager I know that companies are always looking out for Lean skills/ops excellence etc..go contracting for a bit and make yourself a fortune…

    cynic-al
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    Thanks Northwind, gave me a 😀

    Premier Icon mboy
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    Another one here who’s had similar before…

    Some people just don’t like confrontation it would seem, and even though they’re your boss, don’t like to have to tell you where you’re going wrong, where you should improve, and well…

    If you don’t know, you can’t change it can you!

    Good luck finding a new job…

    slowoldgit
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    NS – thank you for sharing.

    And stumpy, it’s hard to take. You aren’t the first, good luck with your search.

    surlynot
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    Just think of it as their loss.

    Premier Icon midlifecrashes
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    Rough one. Still, you’re just as employable as six months ago, beers for the (long) weekend and start again on Tuesday. All the best.

    pingu66
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    As far as I know 28 days they dont need to give you notice. After that and upto 12 months they need to give you notice but dont need a reason. After 12 months all your rights kick in. Happened to me 5 interviews when I was out of work to get a job. International company, well Siemens actually. Then 3 months in binned me as I wasn’t performing. They weren’t giving me work but hey ho I was doing tons of training.

    The director just gave me both barrels and I said thanks and left. My manager was there and rang me later and explained they counldnt afford me but he would give me a great reference. I said dont bother and told him that he and the director needed to grow a pair and should have been honest.

    You relly dont want to work for low lifes which exist in even the biggest companies.

    Good luck for the future.

    rkk01
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    got taken into the owner’s office

    There’s your problem, right there. Small businesses, the engine of the economy – my backside. Many small business owners I’ve come across – fickle, opinionated, if you’re in, you’re in – no matter how good you are. If you’re not in, you can be the most capable person on the payroll and it won’t matter a jot.

    rewski
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    Just think of all the hours you spent on stw instead of working 😀

    Scamper
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    Sorry to hear about that Stumps.

    Unfortunately its now 2 yrs from last month for new employees that you can sue for unfair dismisal subject to exemptions, although the employer should i think still aford you the same disciplinary procedure as for everyone else.

    Premier Icon footflaps
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    I assume they’re paying you your notice in full?

    Premier Icon Del
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    Booked onto a track day on the Sunday. That must have looked quite strange turning up in a big Volvo

    ***ing ace. win! 8)
    @ the OP, manufacturing is a 5hite environment at the best of times, as i’m sure you know. too many to55ers watching the sums, and not nearly enough people who care looking at the quality, IMO. like the others, sounds like you’re actually on the better end of the deal, though i know it may not feel like it now.

    brooess
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    Similar thing happened to me a year ago. Very well known ‘blue chip’ insurer. My face didn’t fit and my manager was useless but he stepped aside and made sure I took the flak and told a pack of lies in front of HR.
    I took it personally for a while but got over it and it’s made me more alert to political players and more wary at work.
    Frankly you’re better out of a company that behaves like that. They lose the good people and collapse eventually IMO…
    Hope it all works out for you in the end…

    rob2
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    Northern star -that is flipping ace.

    OP – Hope things work out for you sir. I’ve had a shite time at work this year but it gets better

    Mikey65
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    chewkw – Member

    In this economy climate you will find many backstabbing backside lickers at work … watch your back because they will screw you with a smile. Those maggots need to be stepped on and put in their place.

    +1 on that comment……..I got a cycling mate a job 2 years ago after he was made redundant and turning into a drunk and he has just repaid me with lodging a grievance to HR against me with totally false allegations, just because there are department cuts coming….Couldn’t make it up…..Worked out ok though as stuck CV on net and picked up a great job….PS ethics chaps getting a note about his dodgy e-mails Ha Ha

    zokes
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    Superglue and matches in the door lock? Should keep them busy….

    But really, Northern Star FTW 🙂

    ernie_lynch
    Yep, you can legally be unfairly dismissed in the first 12 months of your employment. It used to be first 6 months but Thatcher changed it, and Tony Blair thought it was such a good idea that he kept it.

    Not quite

    It can still be an unfair dismissal but you have no recourse to a tribunal with less than now two years serivece

    It was two years service under thatcher – changed to a year under blair, now back to two years under CMD

    So yes – even if its unfair there is sod all you can do about it

    damo2576
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    I’m a production manager / lean manufacturing engineer

    Whereabouts in the country are you? We may have positions coming up.

    Not quite

    It can still be an unfair dismissal but you have no recourse to a tribunal with less than now two years serivece

    Isn’t that the same as what I said – you can legally be unfairly dismissed, or are you saying that it’s illegal ?

    Although fair enough about the qualifying period being now increased to 2 years, I knew it was in the cards but hadn’t realised that it kicked in last month – it doesn’t seem to have had much news coverage. And I knew that Thatcher had increased the qualifying period from 6 months to a year when she first got elected, and which was the same as under Blair, but I hadn’t realised that she had then gone on the doubling it again – useful to know that as it provides yet another example of how little rights she thought ordinary working people were entitled to have.

    Premier Icon stumpyjon
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    Damo, I’m in the north west, East Lancs, if you’re in the area I’d be interested, email in my profile, thanks.

    Still feel rather numb this morning, can’t quite get over the fact there was absolutely no warning, you’d have thought out ethical decency there would have at least been something unambiguous said.

    On reflection I think I’ve been used as a scape goat for the fact everything they’ve tried to do over the last 6 months has spectacularly failed, the shop floor unions have successfully stood up to them, the rest of the management team have been there a while so would be difficult to do anything with, the supervisory staff are fighting them every step of the way. I was just easy pickings.

    Premier Icon pictonroad
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    Exactly the same happened to me, invited to lunch for my 3 month review, they bought me a drink and fired me expecting me to go straight home. When I informed them my house keys were in my desk I was escorted to my desk in front of the office in deadly silence and escorted back out of the door.

    All worked out in the end, but crikey, I felt AWFUL that day, really really low, you have my sympathy.

    I win though, they were sub-human cretins and I’m awesome.

    marco
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    stumpyjon
    Agree with everyone else here..lucky escape there.
    Similar thing with me in March, face didnt fit scenario, got the boot without warning.
    Was ok though cos’ had holiday to Florida booked for the week after and got a text to tell me the Manager that sacked me also got finished!
    Now got a part time job at B & Q and aint been happier for ages.
    Chin up pal and all will turn out ok. If your prepared to work there are lots of jobs out there

    Premier Icon ourmaninthenorth
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    There’s your problem, right there. Small businesses, the engine of the economy – my backside. Many small business owners I’ve come across – fickle, opinionated

    We once bought a telecoms reseller. The owner’s wife was nuts – if ever anyone left, she’d play over an office PA system “Another One Bites the Dust”.

    Mental.

    (But not half as unpleasant as law firm partners – the most ruthless you can imagine.)

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