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  • I need a screw! (M7 Content)
  • Premier Icon bentandbroken
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    Roofrack woes 🙁 Now I need to source an M7 Bolt/Screw.

    Google and previous training seems to be telling me I need M7 Socket-Button/Socket-Cap/Allen-Head-Cap ones. Ideally stainless-steel. Sadly Google is not telling me where to buy them 🙁

    B&Q and Screwfix have also let me down (they don’t do any M7 stuff apparently).

    Ebay have regular steel ones for $999.99 (yes that is the genuine price and ‘people’ are watching the auction)

    Help! Can anyone point me in the right direction?

    Premier Icon deadlydarcy
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    Google a local “fixings” supplier.

    Premier Icon andyl
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    http://www.inoxbolt.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=189_328_531&products_id=974&zenid=b72a2ae7abbd4a7baf0ee3784ac0d82f

    What make roof rack. You have to make sure you get the correct tensile grade. I remember Thule had a recall to replace some failing bolts a while back.

    Premier Icon bentandbroken
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    Blimey DD, that was quick!!!

    Many thanks, I now have a couple of possible leads, but any more ideas gratefully received 🙂

    Premier Icon maccruiskeen
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    M7 does seem to be a bit rare, looking a the places I buy from – Buck & Hickman or Orbital Fasterners – they sell taps for making m7 threads in holes but nothing you can actually screw into that threaded hole once you’ve done that

    Premier Icon deadlydarcy
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    Beware as Jamie talks some rare sense there. M7 is unusual. All my Thule bolts have been M6 – and if I’m not mistaken, most mounting holes in car rooves are M6 as standard aren’t they?

    Premier Icon bentandbroken
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    @Jamie – Yup, def M7. I was suprised as well, but managed to find a couple of M7 bolts that I thought would do the job. The thread is fine, but the head had to be ‘modified’ to make it fit and is a bit ‘string and sellotape’ so I need a better fix

    @andyl – Worrying info as I know far to little about Tensile strength 🙁

    Premier Icon bentandbroken
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    PS – It’s the car that dictates the thread. I tried M6 and M8, but when I called the roofrack manufacturers they were adamant that it was M7 and when I managed to buy the hex-head bolts they were a perfect fit :-/

    Premier Icon deadlydarcy
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    No, no, I insist…it must be M6. 😀

    Premier Icon bentandbroken
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    @DD – Can I put your ‘name’ on the insurance document as a guaranteed source of info re the M6 bit? 😉

    Premier Icon bentandbroken
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    @Jamie – I have just ordered some from SJS, many thanks 😀 NB there must be some Karma in the fact that it is a bike site/shop

    @Everyone else who replied – Many thanks for the info/knowledge 😀

    Premier Icon Jamie
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    Glad to hear you got sorted. 20mm seems a bit short though, and I hope they are the correct tensile strength.

    As an aside, do the roof bar manufacturers not offer spares?

    Premier Icon bentandbroken
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    They are actually about 12-15mm long so I need to cut them down hence the preferance for stainless rather than coated/plated

    As for the roofbar peeps, it was roofbox.co.uk who seem great/helpfull :-), but they are just a dealer so spares are an issue

    Tensile strength is still making me ‘twitch’ though. Can you point me in the direction of any knowledge?

    Premier Icon irc
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    Tensile strength is still making me ‘twitch’ though. Can you point me in the direction of any knowledge?

    Posting from a position of engineering ignorance would the fact most roof bolts are M6 while yours is M7 and therefore beefier not be enough insurance?

    Premier Icon RustyNissanPrairie
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    Its not M7 – its 1/4″ x 28 otherwise known as 1/4″UNF. Tensile strength should be 12.9, don’t use stainless – go with nickel plated steel.

    Premier Icon Mikeypies
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    I am not sure about using stainless for load bearing bolts where a failure could Cause the rack to fail. Here is some info I found

    http://www.volksbolts.com/faq/basics.htm

    I would be looking for high tensile bolts tbh if they are under any stress

    Premier Icon scandalous
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    Yup!

    Premier Icon RustyNissanPrairie
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    I would be looking for high tensile bolts tbh if they are under any stress

    Tensile strength should be 12.9, don’t use stainless

    Premier Icon Drac
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    Contact Thule with your woes about they’re great product they have a good history of customer service so may well send you some.

    Premier Icon cheez0
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    Drill it out.. tap it M8. Job done

    Premier Icon footflaps
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    Contact Thule with your woes about they’re great product they have a good history of customer service so may well send you some.

    Not a very safe product though, the Thule bolts I had regularly snapped letting the bike carrier depart from the roof of the car and each time Thule just said ‘yes, it happens a lot’ and posted out a new bolt which then snapped a few months later….

    Premier Icon bentandbroken
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    Hmmm more ideas/comments since last night. In summary

    Its def M7. I borrowed some calipers and dug out my old engineers ref book and it is not 1/4″UNF

    It’s a lease vehicle so drilling and tapping is not an option

    It looks as if most of the ‘load’ is taken elsewhere, I ‘think’ these bolts are just there to stop the roofrack sliding round a bit so shear stregth is the most important bit

    It’s not a Thule rack so they would not/could not help (although I do have 2 thule racks in the garage from previous cars so could try a blag, but the comment about thier bolts breaking above puts me off a bit…)

    Looks like I need High Tensile bolts from a local company that I can ask questions (for such a small sale value as well, I already feel sorry for them)

    Premier Icon Drac
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    Ah not sure where I picked it up it was a Thule one from.

    I’ve had Thule bars and carriers for about 17 years now and never had a bolt snap. 😀

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