Help me pick a new CHEAP 'All mountain' 140-160mm frame please…Im stuck
I am going to replace my 456 and big bouncer with one bike to cope with most things. I have a VERY tight budget for the frame of £260 (could squeeze a tad more-maybe).
I have some 36 TALAS (100-130-160 ones) and other generally burly kit off the 456 to build it.
I have been offered a 2005 Giant Reign. I love these frames but it is the first generation. I dont know much about this model (i know the 2006+ on were good). It had all but a 70* H/A that sounds so steep! Any thoughts on this frame? Its £185 with a swinger 3-way air.
I am also considering a Meta 5.5 (2008) which i love but i hear they could be crack-happy. That is of course 140mm travel (160mm up front too much?) that’s £240 (maybe a bit less) with a RP2.
I have seen a 2009 Meta 6 but that is right at the top of my budget at £280 and only has a Float R.
I have also seen a Pitch Comp for £250, that one is a 2011.
I really like the Spesh enduro and the Scott Ransom but they are pricey.
I also like the look of the Marin Attack Trail (2008+) but cant find one at the moment.
Any opinions on the above or other ideas please post!
Cheers, JayPosted 4 years ago
Thanks for the opinions gents.
I personally am not a fan of Intense bikes but for £300 that is a bargain.
The Mega is a good bike but WAAAYYY out of my price range- if i had that sort of money id start the cafe racer project i have planned for years!
As for the Pitch, i do love them but they are just that bit more money..money i really don’t have coming up to Xmas.
ROB- I have your email and will reply!
More info always gratefully recieved.Posted 4 years agotomasoSubscriber
I think the oldest Reign is a bit out dated in geometry terms and the head angle is little steep and the headtube a bit tall. I enjoyed mine and it rode great, but the Pitch that replaced it was better all round.
I sold my old Pitch frame that was very well used for £260 – which is your budget.
After having my bikes robbed I bought a secondhand Pitch Pro for £565 last month. And I am a very happy mountain bike rider – its a great bike that does all I need and is way more capable than I am.
So in the style of the STW Forumite I recommend my own bikePosted 4 years ago
I have been thinking that maybe the Reign is a little outdated TBH. Hmm, it allows room for some slacker shock bushes and maybe a shock upgrade though. hmm.
Im not a fan of the hecklar mate, cracked two of them… ’05 one and a 2009.
Coogan- that sounds interesting. I do like DW bikes. Can you drop me an email? firstname.lastname@example.org although i expect it will be too expensive!Posted 4 years agotomasoSubscriber
These old Enduros seem to be offered at a good price and plenty of folks on here that have them seem to rate them highly.Posted 4 years ago
PinkBike Enduro probably wrong size but you get the idea
I’d vote for the old enduro – should easily get one in your budget.
I had an SX trail which I sold for £250 with a recently serviced DHX air, post and headset. Although quite old, the geometry for the time was pretty slack (circa 68 degrees with the slack shock shuttle).
They are really good fun bikes, my only issue was the slack seat angle which could make it a bit of a pig to climb on.Posted 4 years ago
Tomaso: I saw that one, exactly what i want but too small! I need a Medium. Thanks mate
Shifter- I have had a couple Prophets (well 3), Two MX’s and one 4X. Great bikes but i would like something more complex that a single pivot, i found it very skitty- but fun all the same!Posted 4 years ago
The early SX Trail isn’t too bad for pedaling – I was fine on mine. I used it for hacking around trail centres, longer rides in the peaks and mucking around on jumps.
The frame is only slightly beefier than the Endruo. Mine weighed in at 32lbs with Van 36’s a Reverb etc.Posted 4 years ago
Just get a pitch.
The old Enduros are good but the Pitch is more upto date and will climb fine with an adjustable fork. They are a bit too long and floppy when trying to climb with 160mm forks.
Dont get me wrong I loved my old Enduros (05 and 06) but the newer stuff is just better. Plus replacing shocks on the 05 and 06 is an utter ball ache and when you are buying second hand it is something you will need to do at some point.Posted 4 years agorazorrazooMember
I’ll have a medium DW 5 Spot for sale very soon if of any interest.
Not sure if this will fit into your price range but if it does it merits serious consideration. I’ve been on one since summer as a do everything single bike and it’s great. Is very capable going both up and down and a significant improvement on the Cove Hustler it replaced.Posted 4 years ago
I’m going to totally disagree with I_Ache on the old Enduros / SX – I don’t think stuff like the Pitch is loads better.
The SX in the slack mode is slacker (66.5 vs 67) but slacker in the seat tube. The FSR suspension on both is pretty simiar (the Pitch’s main pivot is slightly further forward). But for some reason the Pitch seems pretty pricey on the second hand market compared the the SX / Enduro.
The only thing that can be a pain is the shock due to the funny size. Mine had a DHX air which I quite liked (made better by having the air volume reduced) but most SX’s have a coil DHX which is easily serviced still so shouldn’t need replacing. The old 5th shocks are nasty.
I loved mine and it easily rates as one of the best bikes that I’ve ever had. It may have been ‘old’ but it was so far ahead of its time that its not too disimilar to modern stuff. The only thing that aged it in my eyes is the slack seat tube.Posted 4 years ago
They arn’t that heavy davey. Mine with a Monarch+ was lighter than my ’11 Enduro Evo. Granted with a Ti spring the Evo would be lighter let alone with an air spring but thats not the point.
The old Enduros/SX’s are still great bikes, I just think newer bikes are better.
FWIW mindmap I didn’t say loads better I just said better. Remember I sold my Pitch and went back to an 06 Enduro because I thought the front end felt better without travel adjust forks. With the OPs TALAS I think the Pitch is a better option.Posted 4 years agoflyingmonkeycorpsMember
Pitch or Enduro would certainly tick the boxes, if you can find one in budget.
Or (and yes, I own one) you might get a Hemlock frame in that budget if one comes up. Only 120mm travel, but obscenely good fun to ride, and if you get one of the later ones with the 1.5″ headtube you could whap a reducer headset in there if that’s your bag. Though I’ve never found mine over steep with a standard headset and Lyriks. Don’t *think* they like offset bushes, but someone may correct me on this.Posted 4 years agoTurnerGuyMember
There is a Commencial Meta 55 frame on southern bike shop on facebook for £300, down near Swinley Forest.
Commencal Meta 55 18″ (medium) frame. 140mm travel, PUSHed Fox RP23 rear shock. Shock will be serviced prior to sale. £300.
It’s a closed group but I can pass on your details, or his. if it is of interestPosted 4 years agoTurnerGuyMember
This dw-link flux frame on ebay might go for a keen price :
Posted 4 years agoRickosMember
Some interesting ebay stuff at the moment including a Cube Fritz, intense 5.5 and a Rocky Mountain Slayer. The Slayer and Fritz end today and are less popular brands so may go within your budget. The intense has a few issues that I wouldn’t really worry about and is buy it now for £225 posted.
There is stuff out there, so be patient and you’ll get something good within your budget.Posted 4 years ago
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