[Closed] Feeling P'd off. Inspire me with your Steel 29er Pics

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Solaris looks awesome.

What's up with Stanton????

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They build the wendy houses to last up your way, eh Roverpig?

Stooge...

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Does it still count if it's chubby 🙂

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Roverpig - Nicely done. What size is that/are you?

Breadcrumb - Very cool. But what am I looking at?.

My plan to build up a Stanton Sherpa didn't work out and I've sort of lost faith in the brand a bit.

Say what now?

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Thanks, it's a Kona Unit. Was toying with changing it for a Sherpa.

What issues have you found?

Last two...

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They build the wendy houses to last up your way, eh Roverpig?

😀

Roverpig - Nicely done. What size is that/are you?

Thanks. It's a large and I'm 6' . I run it with 120mm forks a 50mm stem and 740mm bars, which suits me well. Plus size is still an experiment, but it's nice to have the option.

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What's up with Stanton? Don't believe you've answered that yet.

Here's my Solaris after finishing the build then out on a night ride a few days ago:
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Personally I think you've dodged a bullet there, I demo'ed the Sherpa and Solaris and thought the Solaris was much better 🙂

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Some plumbing tubes just bring the tone down a bit.

Cut out the middle man, buy some pipe and make your own fugly creation 🙂

And before anyone asks, the effective seat angle is 72 degrees - the bent tube running at 66 deg and 400mm chainstays make it look a lot slacker.....

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I've reported these pictures to the moderators for being far too awesome and making me feel sad that I have to go to work instead.

been fancying a new steel 29er myself....great post, keep em coming.

I can see a singular swift on the horizon, approaching slowly.

Shameless plug....

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-stanton-sherpa-19-frame-and-headset-1

I've owned a Mk1 Solaris and the Sherpa and found the Sherpa to ride better, the only mistake I made was to order a L Sherpa when I rode an XL Solaris

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Some fantastic pics here. Love that last one of the Kona by breadcrumb.

Solaris seems to be the way to go and tbh I was on the verge of buying one a week ago

But then again....that Chromag looks tempting...

Chromag Rootdown frames are reduced to 485 in the shore lines sale.

Whats the problem with the Sherpa and the Stanton brand? Can you expand? They seem well thought of.

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The Jones boring. I really like it - and have spotted I have no photo's of it on the trail.

Love my Sherpa but I'll take a wild guess that the OP's frame delivery got bumped as they are in Italy according to their website. .. if so. Unlucky fella.

mick r - Your frames look quite interesting. I've been meaning to have a crack at frame building.

Do you have any info on how you went about it? Where did you get your tube sets?

Thanks

Do you have any info on how you went about it? Where did you get your tube sets?

Ceeway for Columbus tubing www.framebuilding.com

Do you have any kind of engineering / making things background? If not then I'd suggest starting with the good folks at www.thebicycleacademy.org

Whilst we've got some Stooge owners - can someone roughly measure the top tube(s) diameter? I've got plans for an oddball CX bike using the tubes for simple internal cable runs and a nice curved section for comfy shoulder carrying. I'm lightweight so considering 14mm (I'd guess Stooge is around 16mm).

Really like ssboggys bike - is that a Blackbuck?

You'll have to take my word that it's a Curtis XC9

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Whilst we've got some Stooge owners - can someone roughly measure the top tube(s) diameter? I've got plans for an oddball CX bike using the tubes for simple internal cable runs and a nice curved section for comfy shoulder carrying. I'm lightweight so considering 14mm (I'd guess Stooge is around 16mm).

Only using a tape and I've been on the Westons vintage but looks about 16/17mm

Now with fewer spacers and a shorter stem, but definitely a keeper.

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Only using a tape and I've been on the Westons vintage but looks about 16/17mm

Thanks - accurate enough for me! Ordering some tubes on Monday.

Not had a Stooge for a while, so here's mine.....oh.....hang on...... 😀

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Can't help with pics but I'm intrigued to know what was up with it and why you've lost faith in the brand.

My Solaris looks vaguely like RP's so I won't bore you with a similar pic but I will say it's a great bike.

I'm also intrigued by the Stanton story too.

Needs more green does this thread.

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Thanks mick. I'm a fabricator, so plenty of of experience just move in building a frame.

Did you use a jig?

How much do ceeway charge for a typical tube set? What wall thickness did you go for?

Unfortunately I don't have access to any mandrels for bending tube at work, but I do like your curved seat tube.

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Some plumbing tubes just bring the tone down a bit.

Same frame, different build:

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Nothing wrong with an Inbred! That said, Singlespeedstu's green Jones is my favourite bike on STW...

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Hi Breadcrumb. Sounds like you are sorted with the skills so just get stuck in. I only do a bit as a hobby but drop me an email and I'll give as much info as possible.

Apologies for going a bit OT, but quick answers to the questions for those interested - and probably convincing everyone just how little hassle and good value a far east frame (or a Shand!) is:-

I made a jig - but can be done with just a flat surface and V blocks.

Generally mix and match tubes. For the more basic tubes there is more choice in diameters than wall thickness.
Plain 1.5m lengths of cro-mo in 0.8 - 0.9mm wall are around £10-£15 +VAT (various sizes from 8mm to 44.5mm). Much cheaper than aero spec 4130 / T45. Great for practice and I often use for seat tube and rear stays. http://www.framebuilding.com/Spare%20Tubes.htm

A mid range butted top or down tube like Zona is around £20-£25. Columbus do longer 750mm Zona down tubes for 29ers in 35 or 38mm. I've not built for anyone heavy so generally use 32mm tt and 35mm dt. For reference an Inbred that passes the fatigue tests for a heavy rider uses 35mm tt and dt (dunno what wall / butting but fairly chunky). http://www.framebuilding.com/ZONA.htm

Tube bending is done cold and can be tricky - no real substitute for tooling. Bending the ST is very difficult - tube rollers are the correct way to do it. I pack with sand and use this plywood contraption - leaves a few ripples and sometimes kinks / scraps the tube so far from ideal. Just about manages 24 deg bend. 38 deg bend in the 2nd photo shows a kink.

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Krampus in Rotorua, steel 29 at its finest.

Thanks for the info mick, I might drop you a mail at some point. I like the tube former, nice bit of problem solving.
When working with tube it's usually T45 but with a wall thickness between 1.0 and 2.0.

Although a recent project had me TIG welding 25*0.7 T45.

Would like to know what the Staunton issue is also. I've been hovering over the buy button and am suddenly wary after the Internet blew cold.....

Envious .... now I'm sad 😥

@ mick_r yes that is a Blackbuck I posted on the previous page

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How do people find the Inbred. Spent a long time cleaning yesterday and would like a single speed to play with.

@Shand - new model? Very Fargo'esk presume it has a shorter top tube to run drops

@Shand - new model? Very Fargo'esk presume it has a shorter top tube to run drops

Aye, new model. The 'Drove'. Shorter reach and taller stack for drop-bar specific geo.

How do people find the Inbred.

Cheap, versatile, robust and brilliant.

Mine is a singlespeed specific frame ([url= http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FROOSSLTD29/on-one-inbred-29er-single-speed-mountain-bike-frame-ltd-edition ]this one[/url]), so it's got track ends and no cable guides. Rear tyre clearance isn't great between the chainstays though; i run 35mm rims, and a 2.25 is really tight.

There certainly are better frames available, but not much better. And for 99 quid, an Inbred really can't be beaten (it was on sale when i got mine).

Love the OS Blackbuck! Rare bike 🙂

Love the OS Blackbuck! Rare bike

Here's another picture with Swift fork's and a Knard on the front.

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No photos to add, sorry.

Salsa EM, rigid and SS right now, orange frame, everything else is black, insert backdrop of your own choosing.

Rear tyre clearance isn't great between the chainstays though; i run 35mm rims, and a 2.25 is really tight.

Thanks - as it's a dedicated foul mud frame I'm after I think that rules it out. It seems to me the limitations of bending steel plus the desire for short chainstays means steel frames are often a bit cramped for clearance

Double post. 😳

My Stooge.

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Classic Singular Swift. Love it, had lots of Steel hardballs over the past 25 years, but it is by far the best. Only thing I would contemplate swapping it with, would be a Jones.

This thread needs answers what was/is the issue with Stanton!?

Sorry, wasn't ignoring the questions about Stanton but missed the first few tbh as I swiped through the photo's, but anyway it's between me and Stanton/the retailer and I'm not naming and shaming so don't ask. I'm sure it's a great bike and seems to get some v good reviews which I'm sure are well deserved, it's just not for me, that's all.

Main thing is some absolutely brilliant photo's which as well as giving me a few ideas motivated me to go riding for a couple of hours this morning, even though it was on a road bike and peeing down. Happy days 😀

Since NormalMan won't post his, here is another one just like it from today 🙂 One of those rides that look better in the pictures than it was in reality if I'm honest, but I was just checking out some new route ideas and anyway all rides beat no ride.

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It seems to me the limitations of bending steel plus the desire for short chainstays means steel frames are often a bit cramped for clearance

Niner ROS9 at a less than useful angle...

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Sorry for the picture of last summer's dry and dusty trails!

^Mmmm dry trails. Location looks familiar - not in the Lakes is it? Looks a bit like dropping into Troutbeck from Garburn / Dubbs - but could equally be hundreds of other places....

I'll say one thing for this thread - steel 29er owners all seem to ride them in proper off road places in all conditions (very few back yard photos).

Bang on that - it is indeed the track off Garburn if you take the right fork where the track spilts above Limefit Caravan Park instead of sticking on the left fork towards Dubbs.

Wow! Don't know why but it just looked really familiar. A bit damper when we came down it last Sunday being chased off Garburn by a snow / hail flurry 🙂 Still a great ride and really impressed at my 13yr old lad - under 3 hours to ride Grayrigg, Longsleddale, over Sadgill to Kentmere, over Garburn and then Jenkin Crag to Ambleside. If he grows any more I'll have to make him a 29er frame.....(steel of course)

Rigid/SS El Mariachi:

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Old but my favourite one of my Solaris (brakes, saddle, drivetrain and bars all changed now):

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I can't believe no-one has ignored the thread title yet 🙂 Anyway, in fine tradition here's not what you asked for but another utilitarian, adaptable 29er to consider anyway 🙂

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Oh well, if we are ignoring the steel bit, here's another (its as comfy as any steel bike I've ridden). 😀

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While we're at it lets ignore the fact this 29er isn't steel and doesn't have 29er wheels fitted. 🙄 😛
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I am very sorry for what may have started OP 😳 😀

Sorry, wasn't ignoring the questions about Stanton but missed the first few tbh as I swiped through the photo's, but anyway it's between me and Stanton/the retailer and I'm not naming and shaming so don't ask. I'm sure it's a great bike and seems to get some v good reviews which I'm sure are well deserved, it's just not for me, that's all.

Was there an issue with the frame itself? Only ask because you said initially that you lost faith in the brand which makes it so do like there was an issue that didn't get sorted out. Then you finish up saying that you didn't like it which is a bit different.