I saw someone riding a bike on the pavement today. Bastards.

teethgrinder – Member
Dogs are ****.
So are their owners.

Dogs are COOL.
So are their owners?

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I cannot imagine, in a million years, why someone would not love dogs. I’ll propose a scenario, to highlight why.

You’re sat in at night, you’re safe in your house watching east enders.
Two men break in. They’re dead butch and have weapons. They suggest that more than one person in the house is going to get raped. And you’re the only person in the house.

Oh dear.

Now in this situation, every single animal on the planet, will, given the opportunity, do one. Including humans and especially cats.

Apart from one. Any guesses? That’s right. Your loyal dog will stay with you and try and protect you. It may only weight the same as a bag of sugar but it doesn’t care. Anyone after your ass, is going to die.

The intruders state that anything getting in the way of your ring and them, is going to get 12 inches of steel in its belly. The dog don’t care. Die protecting my masters balloon knot? Gladly. This principal applies to all dogs, big and small.

And some people prefer cats. you should question why you associate with thos people.

As long as the arse-rapers don’t shit on the trails…live and let live.

So, given the circumstances of Samuri’s fantasy
the situation posted above, would you rather:

A: Spend the next 15 years picking up dogshit two or three times a day.

or

B: Be anally violated?

Bear in mind that the type of dog that could stand up to these bum-loving criminals would have to be a hefty beast, and that the total amount of excrement could be very large indeed.

The situation isn’t relevant to me as I don’t watch EastEnders, but perhaps we could have a front page poll for those that do?

Bag it and bin it. If in the middle of nowhere stick and flick out of the way where it’ll decompose. Hanging it in trees is nasty.

Surely samurai’s scenario just demonstrates that dogs can’t understand human speach.

i dont know where the OP is based but i’ve never seen a single bag of dog poo hanging from a tree round these parts, and there are a LOT of dogs. there’s also a LOT of cyclists. as a general rule everyone’s very considerate of each other 🙂

personally i like to collect all the dog poo and throw it at children’s faces from my bike, thus ensuring a swift getaway.

If in the middle of nowhere stick and flick out of the way where it’ll decompose

where it will be a biohazard to humans still, and will additionally cause soil enrichment and loss of habitat for native fauna due to number of antisocial pet owners doing the same

double win for those who CBA to bag it and bin it everytime

Phil +1. Anyway just off to take my dogs out. Bags ready, treats/whistle ready to ensure complete control. Only ever seen two bags in the trees near me. Oddly in the same tree???

I think samurai’s dellusional scenario should be at the forefront of the next rspca adopt a dog campaign. It could end with the pooch stood next to the broken violated body of a dog owner, tenderly licking their face or having a good old sniff of their bottom.

They suggest that more than one person in the house is going to get raped. And you’re the only person in the house.

Yeah, but most dogs on hearing this will think ‘mmmm, I’m the only other person in here, sod that, I’m outta here’ and whooosh, cartoon like profile of dog with tail firmly between its legs through back door panel… 😯

Surely samurai’s scenario just demonstrates that dogs can’t understand human speach.

There is a field of linguistic study that supposes that speech actually developed at about the same time that the wild dogs were being domesticated, as humans needed a way to communicate with them. Two cavemen could communicate using signs and pointing, etc, but dogs, especially when used as hunting animals, rely on sound for communication.

where it will be a biohazard to humans still, and will additionally cause soil enrichment and loss of habitat for native fauna due to number of antisocial pet owners doing the same

You are aware that this is recommended at Llandegla and also along Dovedale, by the landowner/manager to give but 2 examples?

Are there any non-bum-rapey burglery related reasons for keeping a massive, daft, shitting-machine in your house?

I wouldn’t dismiss cats as protection so quickly either. You should get a withering stare off our new little sod. It could freeze your blood 😯

Many of the housing estates I work on have large european and asian communities and these are ALWAYS the ones I see letting the dogs foul and not picking it up.

Probably just a combination of xenophobia and confirmation bias.

These posts are at best an absolute waste of time or alternatively just trolling.

There seems to be a daily stream of “Why are car drivers / dogs / bin men / little green men / bus drivers so inconsiderate blah blah blah” on STW.

These are the same people who then moan when people stereotype cyclists as the anti-christ, running redlights and riding down the pavement knocking over small children and grannies as they go.

Can’t we all just accept that in any ‘group’ of people there are going to be responsible and irresponsible people. Get over it.

Can’t we all just accept that in any ‘group’ of people there are going to be responsible and irresponsible people. Get over it.

I think that, largely, most people here do accept that. Doesn’t mean it’s not interesting to discuss, or cathartic to moan about, occasionally.

I quite like dogs. Wouldn’t have one myself as I don’t want the responsibility.

Samurai’s otherwise great post misses one point, which is the conclusion of his little scenario. To wit, the hypothetical burglar with the large knife and the equally large erection is going to dice the loyal family pet into bite-sized chunks before violating the family anyway. So, without a dog, you’re left with no possessions and a sore bum; with a dog, you’ve no possessions and a sore bum and have also to deal with the tragic, brutal death of a loved pet. You’ll probably need a new carpet too. Better off without, then.

You are aware that this is recommended at Llandegla and also along Dovedale, by the landowner/manager to give but 2 examples?

if you google (other search engines are available) habitat degradation and dog fouling you will come across a plethora of earnest reports by professionals describing the damage done to fragile habitats and the fact they can’t do anything about it due to the dog owners inability to bag it and bin it

This thread reaffirms my belief that a well kept dog is way better than some so called humans.

What about a badly kept dog, compared to… erm… Cheeky scouse occasional radio 2 DJ Lisa Tarbuck?

now I know why we so many chavs with Staffies, they are protecting there speed bumps 😉

Binners, no such thing as a bad dog, only bad owners who dont or dont know how to train them, which strengthens my belief in my comment 🙂

And i’d “do” tarbuck… IF she could keep her gob shut for 2.3 mins 😉 Lol

if you google (other search engines are available) habitat degradation and dog fouling you will come across a plethora of earnest reports by professionals describing the damage done to fragile habitats

I did try googling it. Wasn’t quite as easy as you made out. Loads of pdfs with th odd mention as an aside. It does seem that its an issue in nutrient poor habitats of enviromental concern

As llangella is a plantation that will be ripped out in time, then I’m sure the impact is zero. The same is of course true for anywhere with domesticated animals. The idea that upland Britain is getting more nutrients from dogs than sheep is laughable

However I take that flicking away isn’t appropiate on Heathland

if you google (other search engines are available) habitat degradation and dog fouling you will come across a plethora of earnest reports by professionals describing the damage done to fragile habitats and the fact they can’t do anything about it due to the dog owners inability to bag it and bin it

Ah, the ironing. A post about damage to fragile habitats posted on a forum inhabited by people who ride bikes in the countryside and probably follow and partake in other outdoor activities. All of which cause some damage.

What’s not to like

It’s so pretty. Took me years to get it so good .. 8) and it’ll be there forever.

Sadly, it is the minority spoiling it for the majority again (as with most things in life).

In this case, I do think it is a sizeable minority, though. I see a lot of dog owners demonstrably doing the right thing when people are around, but see the same people not bothering to clear up the crap if they think they’ve ‘got away with it’.

A lot of dog owners want a dog for kudos, or companionship or something but don’t want to deal with the downside.

Took me rears to get it so good

Typo du jour! 🙂

Four canine rears to be precise 😀

They’re not all good news you know. Fall asleep and they’ll eat yer face:

Face chomping lab

That’s no suprise, our lab’ll eat owt, even her own shit, it’s a bugger to bag up for the tree before she gets into it!

I did try googling it. Wasn’t quite as easy as you made out. Loads of pdfs with th odd mention as an aside.

your googlefu isn’t very strong

It does seem that its an issue in nutrient poor habitats of enviromental concern

so you did read a few

As llangella is a plantation that will be ripped out in time, then I’m sure the impact is zero.

why, have you doen an environmental impact assessment? what’s the impact on the local watercourses for example? DOes the nutrient enrichment increase the numbers of non-native flora and fauna and encourage the proliferation of invasive species?

The same is of course true for anywhere with domesticated animals. The idea that upland Britain is getting more nutrients from dogs than sheep is laughable

is it? sheep have a completely different diet to dogs, obviously you must work for one of those wind farm companies that describe the north as a “post industrial landscape” with little to offer as a habitat. That must be why you think it’s fine for you not to bag and bin it everytime

However I take that flicking away isn’t appropiate on Heathland

thanks, please extend the same courtesy to everywhere else

I too have nearly been taken out by the old extending dog lead trick. However, if the worst was to happen, the dog walker the innocent dog (unfortunately) would not escape unscathed. I’m not sure if this would make me feel better but at least they would share my pain!

why aren’t cyclists riding at a safe speed where they can stop if there’s a dog or human in the way? you know… considerately 😉

I too have nearly been taken out by the old extending dog lead trick. However, if the worst was to happen, the dog walker the innocent dog (unfortunately) would not escape unscathed. I’m not sure if this would make me feel better but at least they would share my pain!

Just how fast are you lot going when you are flying past people and their dogs? If I approach a dog walker I excercise the correct amount of caution… 😯

I like the Delamere forest ‘stick and flick’ ethos, must remember to ‘flick’ more often as some of you guys are passing…..

I obviously work for a wind form company!!!!

Well that saves me the bother of trying to pursue a rational debate!!!!

Well off for a bike ride, with the dog. We should have a vote button as to which of us will cause more damage to Woburn.

sheep have a completely different diet to dogs

Very true and the nutrients are more accessible from herbivorous animal pooh than omnivorous/carnivorous animals. Why else would we use farm manure on our gardens/fields?