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  • DIY – Painting internal brick
  • lambchop
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    Plasterboard is cheap. Bash it on with some no nails or even cheap silicone. Rather than fill the joins you could wrap the pboard with lining paper then paint. It’ll do Donkey, it’ll do!

    sharkbait
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    Scaffolding might be about £2k.

    Need a skip as well? Another £300.

    My roofer charges £250 a day plus £100 for a helper. 2 days work I would have guessed, plus materials.

    Don’t forget that there will be ceilings and a floor to make good also.

    Have you looked in the loft?  Is it the same brick all the way up and out of the roof or does it change?

    I think it may be possible to leave the external chimney and remove the stack from within the loft downward.  But it will definitely need supporting.

    I’d want to know why all that brickwork has cracked.  A guess is that it’s because the chimney was removed on the ground floor and what was left is not supported.

    the-muffin-man
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    Anyway, isn’t the effort you put in this side of Christmas proportionate to the nature of the guests you are hosting?

    Family – leave as it, hoover up and chuck them in there. 🙂

    Posh friends you want to impress – best book them into a nearby hotel!

    sobriety
    Free Member

    Also, if it’s coming out after Christmas I’d just PVA it to seal the dust in and then clean up. Not like your guests will be doing owt other than sleeping in there.

    singletrackmind
    Full Member

    Gallows brackets underneath remaining chimney stack. I wouldn’t use them but that is the recommended way , or rsj .

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    DT78
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    its rendered in the loft and then outside is redbrick

    i would hope it has some sort of support as when we first moved in the supporting wall this would have been part of had been completely removed to make a big kitchen. we actually have put a stud wall in beneath it

    anyway ill find out tomorrow lunch

    akeys001
    Full Member

    if it’s for a couple of months I wouldn’t even bother with plasterboard and I’d probably keep the wife happy and paint it with masonry paint and worry about it in the new year

    on the roof work depending where you are scaffolding is about a grand so I’d imagine another grand on that?

    stumpy01
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    We had a chimney removed from our house in March 2022.

    It was all the way down to ground level & terminated with a floor to ceiling brick-built cupboard that housed the original oil-fuelled boiler (and subsequently the CH gas boiler). We’d already had a new boiler relocated to the airing cupboard on the landing.

    The cupboard had an internal 6″ concrete plinth that the chimney & flue sat on, roughly at eye level. Above that was non-accessible (just brickwork to the ceiling) and below it was open cupboard space.

    Anyway – total cost to remove all the way down from roof level, including making good the roof, floors, plastering & adding some new electrical sockets was ~£3.5k. We had full scaffolding up to the chimney level.

    nbt
    Full Member

    Going back a bit, the hatch is indeed an access panel for cleaning the chimney from back in the day. You can even sometimes see them on the outside of the house.

    Looks like a liner has been droped in more recently though, the original chimney wouldn’t have had one of those obvs.

    sharkbait
    Free Member

    depending where you are scaffolding is about a grand

    Mate had a simple tower up just to drop a flue liner in and that cost £1k – so probs a bit more to go over the roof and around the chimney.

    I’ve just had scaff all around the house for £4k but that was mates rates and should have been £6k.

    OP, I supply an app to a number of scaffolding companies and can maybe recommend someone near you.

    joshvegas
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    OP, I supply an app to a number of scaffolding companies and can maybe recommend someone near you.

    Is it a cocaine hook up app?

    DT78
    Free Member

    Southampton.

    Tbh the whole exterior needs sorting too, soffits, guttering, its on its original 100 year old roof to (which touch wood) is still fine

    I have good and bad news:

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    There is steelwork, one RSJ picking up the wall that was removed, and it looks like they bolted 2 small steels to pick up the chimney leafs the one side I have access to is 40cm long.  but, its not supported at one end, and has dropped about 5mm – that would explain the cracking in the chimney above it.  There is no evidence of any support or fixing on the end of the stubby bit so I assume its as designed.   The outer leaf is on a wooden joist.  I would have expected the steel to be fixed to joist or something else at the end not just left even if its short

    No evidence the movement is recent, and given the evidence was the plaster had been repaired several times above the chimney I reckon it was settlement relatively soon after the lower stack was removed.

    Needs to come out soon though.

    Should have just painted over the wall paper

    *looks like the block work to the side of the chimney was built to hide the flue as it comes from the corner of the room across to the stack.  why its built out of solid brick I don’t know if it was just built to hide the flue bend

    sharkbait
    Free Member

    Is it a cocaine hook up app?

    I wish it was…. it would be an easier sell!

    [maybe I could integrate that as an additional upgrade?]

    sharkbait
    Free Member

    Tbh the whole exterior needs sorting too, soffits, guttering

    Best do everything at once – the scaffolding is a major part of the cost – you don’t really want to put it up twice.

    I reckon it was settlement relatively soon after the lower stack was removed.

    Makes absolute sense.

    Should have just painted over the wall paper

    Well, durr!

    why its built out of solid brick I don’t know if it was just built to hide the flue bend

    Because it’s single skin flue and will get hot, a wooden enclosure would be a bad idea and against building regs.

    vaux
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    I’m intrigued, how did you get on?

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    DT78
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    Not too bad, went the plasterboard route.  The plastering is ok from a distance, filler can be seen if you look close, but to be honest its in a better state than the rest of the room.   I kind of like the slightly battered look  – soon as something is perfect it makes everything else look rubbish.

    One extra fun thing is that the essential central support part of that ikea bed is not included, i mean wtf, which lead to a panic drive to ikea and picking it up on the day guests were turning up.

    It was a bit like one of those interior design tv programmes against the clock….back to work now for a rest

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    BigJohn
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    You made a nice job of that. It’s always good to feel your guests have somewhere comfortable.

    I too was working to the last minute getting both a bathroom and spare bedrooms ready. Moving sockets so they had USB ports and lamps next to the bed was the final touch.

    DT78
    Free Member

    Its good to have a deadline, it means you get on with it.  My stairs are still in the undercoat I did about 8 years ago (!)

    with more time I would have moved the sockets, and the woodwork ideally needed more than one coat, also would have taken the rad off and removed the paper from behind it / painted properly.  But had to prioritise!

    Quite surprised my wife has yet to suggest getting on with the hallway now I have all the brushes to hand!  There was mention of the floor needing doing during NYE but I’ll pretend I’d had too much to drink and hadn’t heard 🙂

    vaux
    Free Member

    Brilliant job, well done!

    DT78
    Free Member

    cheers, amazing what a bit of paint can do 🙂

    sharkbait
    Free Member

    Nice job {thumbs up}

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