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    moimoifan
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    Presumably Truss will enoble Kamikwasi – and they can celebrate with a big bag of the Peruvian marching powder and a bit of tromboning?

    MoreCashThanDash
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    Presumably Truss will enoble Kamikwasi – and they can celebrate with a big bag of the Peruvian marching powder and a bit of tromboning?

    🤢🤮

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    binners
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    What exactly did they expect when they made him leader?

    What exactly did they think was going to happen?

    I was going to add ‘just how exactly did they think this would all end?’, but I doubt he’s finished yet

    Hopefully, whether through starting another party, or just dividing the rest of them and have them fighting like rats in a sack, the Tory party is getting it’s just reward for inflicting that walking disaster area on the country

    Unfortunately for the rest of us, with Brexit and everything else, the damage is already done

    moimoifan
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    What exactly did they expect when they made him leader?

    A cheap, substance-free election victory followed by five more years with their snouts in the trough – whatever the consequences for the plebs.

    Surprised you needed to ask, actually.

    🤷‍♂️

    piemonster
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    Unfortunately for the rest of us, with Brexit and everything else, the damage is already done

    Would a picture of Jeremy Corbyn smiling with a man known for racist, anti semitic neo nazi rhetoric help?

    *Its a good example of how two people in the same photo doesnt always mean theyre obviously in some sort of secret cabal, best I can make out JC was effectively ambushed

    kimbers
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    oops

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    martinhutch
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    Another silver lining is that Paul Dacre doesn’t appeared to have got his gong, despite being nominated by Boris. There seem to be a lot of stories about how Rishi has betrayed Johnson in today’s Mail, for some reason.

    dissonance
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    I wouldn’t bet against it. He really is that delusional. He’s more like Trump though. In his own head, not only do the Tory party owe their very existence to him, but all the electorate absolutely love him too

    He says it but I doubt he really believes it. Thats all about setting it up for the future triumphant return and putting all the failures onto every else.
    I would go with the view that he resigned because he knew the recall threshold would be met (thats beyond question) and he didnt fancy the odds of winning the byelection. Its rather telling how he goes on about he has been forced out by an undemocratic process skipping over the minor detail that ultimately the decision would have been made by his constituents.
    Hiding the money he is earning was probably a factor as well.
    In terms of setting up a party I would say no chance. Way too much work for not much return.

    tjagain
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    I wouldn’t be surprised if he joined whatever UKIP has morphed into this month.  Nice boost to his ego to be the big fish in a small pond.

    apparently there are calls for him not to be allowed to stand again as a tory no matter what due to his wrecking tactics with the resignation

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    moimoifan
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    He’ll be off on a speaking tour of the US to give his backing to whatever populist, bigotry-stirring asshat is in the running for the republican nomination.

    Then, if times are tough, it’ll be a stint on GBeebies.

    Then, probably, fronting whatever ‘absolutely not fascist’* party/movement Farage comes up with next.

    *Totally fascist, but not allowed to be defined as such because, err, BBC impartiality, err, balance, err, somesuch other doggybollox…

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    davros
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    I enjoyed these scathing comments:

    He should not be allowed to run for the party again, Lord Heseltine says. “That is Boris’s basic problem,” he writes. “Words are designed to make his audience believe whatever they want to believe. There is no anchor to any discernible truth or sense of integrity.

    “To me it is inconceivable that in these circumstances he could stand as a Conservative member of parliament again. It is up to Conservative central office to affirm an official Conservative candidate. No doubt he will now go out into the world and make huge sums of money, writing history as he thinks it was conducted. But it will have little to do with the reality of the mess he left behind.”

    mattyfez
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    Another tory MP has resigned.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/65866187

    I’ve never heard of them so they are probably a non entity, but still.. That’s what 3 by elections now over the last day or so?

    Seems like the rank and file tories are rattled about something.

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    gobuchul
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    The haunted Victorian pencil has stated that there will be a Tory civil war if Johnson is not allowed to stand as a Tory candidate.

    Please, please, please, bring it on.

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    theotherjonv
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    winston
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    I genuinely don’t get why he has so many supporters amongst MPs and especially in the wider party membership. I mean even if they don’t care about what his leadership has done to the country and even if they don’t care about his flagrant disregard of his own laws, surely they must see he has basically blown up his own party? There was an MP for Great Grimsby on PM last night – she started of sounding like a normal Tory then just went in to a rant about how Boris was the hardest working MP she had ever seen and how he had been brought down by the media!  I mean it was like she had been brainwashed by the worse kind of Facebook conspiracy theorists. There was not the slightest recognition that her party was disintegrating in real time and that it wasn’t Brexit or migration or the cost of living that was causing it but the actions of a man child.

    why do they not see the obvious?

    igm
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    Runs in the Nadine Dorries by election?

    Can’t be censored or recalled as that was a previous BoJo?

    a bit like administration and a NewCo?

    dissonance
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    The haunted Victorian pencil has stated

    Thats “sir” haunted Victorian pencil. Those sort of statements have earned him a reward.
    Its fascinating looking at how they are trying to spin it as a lack of democracy when he has avoided that by dodging the recall byelection.

    dissonance
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    Runs in the Nadine Dorries by election?

    Unlikely. If he is going to go for reelection I would bet on him taking the year out to earn lots without the tedium of having to report it and then just before the election have one of his cult members resign.
    That way he can line himself up as the saviour with no blame for the highly likely defeat and also limit the options for Sunak and co to block him getting a seat.

    binners
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    why do they not see the obvious?

    Because they are entirely detached from reality

    Their ‘otherness’ from us plebs is now total. Westminster is literally like a medieval court. That’s what ‘Man of the People’ Boris turned it into. To be fair, it was almost there when he arrived

    It’s a shiny castle on the hill. They live there surrounded by snivelling courtiers telling them exactly what they want to hear

    These people haven’t the remotest idea what it’s like to deal with all the recent increases in mortgage payments, let alone what it’s like to live on Universal Credit and be dependent on food banks to eat

    This is all just a game to them

    pistonbroke
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    Runs in the Nadine Dorries by election?

    That’s bound to leave a nasty taste in Dorries’ mouth, and not for the first time.

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    tjagain
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    Johnson cannot run again without conservative central office approval which it seems he is unlikely to get

    martinhutch
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    He can run as an indy, obviously. But he won’t do that because he’d probably lose. Would be funny to have Boris running as an indy in some true blue seat, and Corbyn doing the same in Islington North. I know which one is most likely to win.

    Either way, it feels to me like we have a general election incoming in the autumn, or even sooner, if Sunak sees bad economic news arriving before 2024. Would he want to fight in May 2024 after a protracted open civil war in the party, interest rates above 5%, inflation still relatively high, recession, and with the voters still eyeing their heating bills from the previous winter?

    csb
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    Nadine Dorries by election?

    Isn’t that why she and others have resigned, to give him options of a safe seat somehwhere?

    martinhutch
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    Dorries resigned in a fit of pique because she thought Sunak had blocked her peerage. No doubt urged on by Johnson to increase the impact of his own resignation. Useful idiot as always. Johnson cannot stand as a Conservative candidate anywhere without the blessing of the party – they have a list of ‘approved candidates’. In theory he could even be de-selected in Uxbridge if enough influence was brought to bear on the local committee and members.

    gobuchul
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    Dorries was standing down at the next election anyway, it was just a **** you to Sunak for not letting her into the HoL.

    winston
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    @binners

    That may be true for the Rees-mogs and Nadines who probably couldn’t place their constituency on a map even if it was ringed by a highlighter but it doesn’t hold for the backbenchers like the MP I mentioned or the wider party members. They have no peerage to gain or any way of benefiting from a party meltdown. They maybe selfish racists with a fat pension but surely they want a successful Tory party? I guess they are just more stupid and easily led than even I give them credit for?

    igm
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    Hmmm.  Obviously lacking a crystal ball (not good on a bike saddle anyway) I’m not going to say what will happen, I’m just adding 2&2 and getting a number somewhere between 3 and 5 (rounding errors 🤷🏻‍♂️).

    So Nadine says she’s not running again but won’t resign because of the by-election issue.
    Borris gets a report where he would have to run in a by-election with a low majority.
    Within the hour Nadine (huge Tory majority) resigns as does Nigel (almost as big majority) either of which seats have a majority 3-4 times the one Boris doesn’t want to fight.
    And then the newly knighted JRM starts warning the Tories not to resist Boris seeking re-election or there will be civil war.

    I agree, it’s not likely, but it’s not impossible and it’s consistent as a story.  Unlike Boris who isn’t consistent – but is unlikely in so many ways.

    finephilly
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    Best place for Boris right now is cast adrift on a boat, floating around the UK.

    tjagain
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    igm – I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the idea but in practice its not going to happen

    moimoifan
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    Because they are entirely detached from reality

    But they still know what prejudices to pander to in the electorate. They aren’t as detached as you think – they have utter disdain for us plebs, obviously, but they have enough cynical electioneers who know the correct buttons to press around nationalism, racism, intolerance etc.

    But that is a two way street. The electorate was conned into voting against its own interests by a crude racist-nationalist campaign. We can’t complain that they treat us like morons when we act like morons.

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    nickc
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    Thats “sir” haunted Victorian pencil.

    Your occasional reminder that just because they give themselves silly titles and gaudy baubles, you do not have to play along.

    chestrockwell
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    Read or heard somewhere that if he did just jump in to Mad Nad’s safe seat he’d still have to face the music over the whole lying bit so imagine it’ll be a while before the turd bobs back to the surface.

    crazy-legs
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    he’d still have to face the music over the whole lying bit so imagine it’ll be a while before the turd bobs back to the surface.

    He’ll reappear fronting the Boris Johnson Show on GBeebies or as the face of some populist campaign – at this stage it could be anything from “rip out the cycle lanes” to “rejoin EU” – although that’s likely to be after a lucrative little speaking tour of the States as the guest of honour at some Republican shindigs as he backs whatever abhorrent far right shit they’ve got winding up for the presidential elections.

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    n0b0dy0ftheg0at
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    Boris to run for upcoming US presidency. 😉

    tjagain
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    Interesting story about his resignation honours list.  Looks like half of those he nominated were rejected by the peerages committee.  Very unusual
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/11/boris-johnson-peerages-honours-list-row

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    somafunk
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    Best place for Boris right now is cast adrift on a boat, floating around the UK.

    Best place for Boris is in the sea, with my foot on the back of his head to make sure

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    winston
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    “Boris to run for president of US”

    Theoretically at least that would be possible as he was born in New York State,

    tjagain
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    have to be resident for a significant number of years as well as US born and a US citizen IIRC

    igm
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    Boris to run for president of US

    Not withstanding TJ’s sensible comment above – – –

    Borris Johnston – the Nigel Mansell of politics – but less Brummie.

    tjagain
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    Not withstanding TJ’s sensible comment above – – –

    Bookmarked for future use 🙂

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