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I have a Scott Voltage FR that I use for recreational DH. It's set up primarily for going downhill but not so much that I can't winch it back up to the top of the hill along some fairly interesting trails
The bike came with some dc Domain RCs which were OK and last year I got some Boxxer RCs which are a bit lighter but otherwise mildly underwhelming. I've had the opportunity to try the bike with some 170 mm Lyriks but they felt too short.
So what I'm looking for is a fork in the 180-200 mm region that is better than a Boxxer RC at going downhill and yet composed enough to handle a fair bit of pedally uphill
Thought about a Boxxer R2C2 but I'm wary of Rock Shox's incremental model differences. World Cup maybe?
Any suggestion welcome
Ta
What about a set of Fox Talas 36's? 180-140mm. Would be lighter than a dual crown, dropped to 140 for climbing
Totems?
I put 180 totem coils on my Voltage. Single crown good for tighter twisty trails but burly enough for straight lining thru the rough stuff.
What are the Totems like in terms of steering?
great forks. super stiff 40mm chassis. tapered and 1.5" steerers were stiffer than the 1 1/8" ones I had but they were still pretty good.
You can extend a coil lyrik (or at least, some versions) to 180mm if you're so inclined.
Boxxer is never going to be great for climbing but the r2c2 is a lot better than the rc, totally different damper. Actually pretty similiar to the damper in a lyrik, but with no lockout and separate high and low speed rebound. Worldcup just changes to air sprung.
Hmmmm. Probably a daft option but I heard of people putting the Pike charger damper into boxxers (before the official upgrade came out). That could be cost effective and gives you a propedal mode...
Hmmm thanks folks
Anyone had the opportunity to try a Totem against a Boxxer R2C2/Team?
Rather than going for a whole new fork I'd buy the new boxxer charger damper(around £300) and install that into your existing fork. Haven't ridden it myself but a couple of friends who did the upgrade say it's a night and day difference.
The boxxer charger damper upgrade is the same concept as the damper in the pike, different dimensions due to the 40mm increase in travel. The boxxer charger does not have any lockout feature, only adjustment is low speed rebound and compression.
Not tried them myself but heard good reviews from people who use the X Fusion Metric 180mm forks
Lighter than the Vengence 170mm forks
Sir HC - MemberThe boxxer charger damper upgrade is the same concept as the damper in the pike, different dimensions due to the 40mm increase in travel. The boxxer charger does not have any lockout feature, only adjustment is low speed rebound and compression.
Yah, but initially people were retrofitting the Pike version. I have no idea how well it works if at all though
I'd agree with the damper upgrade. Its supposed too make a lot if difference.
I have Totem 2-step airs. They give you 180 or 135mm of travel, the lower setting makes the fork very versatile. I'd definitely want travel adjust if it's for more than just downs.
Does the 2-step last better in a totem than in a lyrik? (mine blew up in the post before I ever got to put it in a bike)
Great reviews on the Fox 36 2015 version. Looking to replace my 180/140mm 2 Step Lyrik with them due to the 2 step throwing a wobbly everytime it gets worked hard despite having seals replaced.
I had Totems on my old Big Hit and have Boxxers RCs on my DH bike.
Weight isn't much difference but the boxxers are way stiffer as youd expect. The 40mm seals on the Totems made for a bit more stiction but they did have a better damper once moving fast. If you can drag a boxxer around wherever you want to ride then Id keep them but totems or 180mm 36s / Bos if you want to turn some tight corners. Dont think theres that much difference in the Crown to axles either.
the boxxers are way stiffer as youd expect
Wasn't sure what to expect tbh
Got to keep the stiffness it's a priority. Totems seem pretty thin on the ground these days will have a look at the damper change
Ta folks
Bos idylle sc are great forks, bit chunky but great!
Anyone had the opportunity to try a Totem against a Boxxer R2C2/Team?
Well I've owned both, and preferred the Totem I think - just never got the Boxxer feeling quite as good.
My choice would be a Marz 66 RC3 Ti though. Awesomely supple single crown fork, feels as stiff as a Totem or DH fork but pretty light for what it is.
Charger cartridge
Stiffness?
Embrace the flex! I prefer 32mm Boxxers to the newer 35mm ones - but then again, I'm clearly odd 😛
If you are happy with the boxxer axle to crown length and the weight then charger upgrade would make sense. If you want something the same length as the 180 domain and lighter then X fusion vengeance 170mm is 565mm that is 10mm longer than the Lyrik or alternatively the previously mentioned metric.
Agree with chapa - sounds like you need a set of 180 66rc3 ti in your life. Around 575a-c, I have a set on my reign and they're the best forks I've used.