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  • Any IPad/Table PC experts in the house?
  • legend
    Free Member

    Evening,

    My Mum’s considering buying my Dad an IPad for his 60th, but basically she’s gone straight for the IPad as it’s the best-known tablet system around at the moment.

    He’s got an IPhone so should be able to get the hang of it pretty quickly, and it’ll just be used for general email and internet faffing.

    Are there alternatives to the IPad that are as good or even better? Really don’t know the market myself, but I am aware that the likes of HTC and Samsung are selling their own Android based systems now.

    Cheers,
    Mark

    muppetWrangler
    Free Member

    Sorry, not going to offer an alternative but can testify that the iPad is very good for the intended recipient.

    My mum’s got one having never used a computer before and gets on just fine with it. plays games, emails, internet shopping, pays her bills all the normal stuff and the best bit that once the initial getting used to it was over I’ve barely had a question from her regarding how to use it. She can probably do more on the iPad than my sister can manage on her laptop. Given that your Father already has an iPhone I would have thought it was the perfect tablet as he will already know how to use it.

    huggis
    Free Member

    +1 for iPad for multiple reasons!

    TiRed
    Full Member

    For your dad, the iPad sounds perfect. I assume he already has the iPhone linked to iTunes? For me, I have a 32GB Blackberry Playbook. It does what I need better than the iPad and I love it. Haven’t tested the Samsung or Xoom but I’m sure they are good machines too.

    bri-72
    Full Member

    I looked very seriously at the Samsung galaxy tab as it was about £250 compared to £400 for ipad2. But reviews were split on it, and TBH it just felt too small in the hand. Id mainly use at home so wanted something with a decent sized screen. Might be worth a look as some good deals on the go, if portability important.

    Any other big brand tablets e.g motorola or dell, were coming in at same price or more than IPAD and just seemed a lot of money for a product that probably wasn’t as slick as the ipad.

    So recently ordered an ipad 2. The lack of flash will no doubt p1ss me off but right now I don’t see a decent alternative out there. Sony have some new tablets coming out this autumn but I didnt want to wait.

    simon_g
    Full Member

    tbh, you’d be daft to go for anything else for the intended recipient, especially if he knows his way around iOS and he can use any apps he’s already got on in the iPad too.

    Android is only just at the point where there’s an OS designed for tablets as well as phones, and is a long way behind on having apps that are designed around bigger screens. Anything iPad equivalent in terms of screen size & quality, speed, etc seems to cost more too.

    CountZero
    Full Member

    Re: the Flash issue, this was on the MacUser RSS feed earlier.

    Flash still not on the iPad — and that’s a good thing
    Posted on Tuesday May 24, 2011 6:45 AM
    by Peter Smith , ITWorld
    Editor’s Note: The following article is reprinted from ITWorld.

    Just about a year ago I wrote a post here at ITworld titled Flash on iPad wouldn’t solve anything (but would strengthen Adobe’s control of the web). Back then the original iPad was brand new and Apple and Steve Jobs were catching a lot of flak for not allowing Flash on the device. My argument was that having Flash on the iPad wouldn’t matter for anything but video since most Flash apps expect mouse and keyboard input anyway. Further, not having Flash on the iPad could encourage Websites to offer video via HTML5.

    A few days ago, I was talking to a co-worker who is in the market for a computer-like device for his mom. He was deciding between an iPad and a netbook. I asked him what his mom would be using the device for. Turns out she’s a fan of Facebook games (among other things). I had to warn him off the iPad (no Flash) but wondered if an Android tablet would work for her. I logged into Facebook and tried to play Farmville on my Android tablet (an Acer Iconia A500). A few minutes later I suggested that my co-worker buy his mom a netbook.

    Since then, I’ve been trying to find Flash games that will run on my tablet, and having very little luck so far. Now, let’s get the caveats out of the way: I only have this one Android tablet to test on and maybe the Acer just stinks at Flash (though I doubt it given how similar it is to the Xoom and Galaxy Tab 10.1 in terms of internals) and maybe Honeycomb 3.1 will fix some of the stuff I’m about to gripe about. That out of the way, let’s get to the griping…

    The first problem is performance. Flash on this tablet is a dog. It struggles to run high-def Flash video and can’t smoothly scroll a game as simple as Farmville. The tablet is no slouch in terms of performance otherwise, so I’m laying the blame here at Adobe’s feet. Presumably, Adobe can fix this as it continues to optimize Flash for the Tegra 2 (and other tablet) chipsets, but for now the combination of dual-core tablets and Android Honeycomb 3.0 just doesn’t have the horsepower to run Flash well.

    Assuming we can get performance taken care of, the next problem is input. As I tested various games I’d run into problems as seemingly simple as a help screen that ended with “Press [Space] to continue….” and I couldn’t find a way to invoke the Android virtual keyboard to get access to the space bar, nor would any kind of tapping get me past it. Lots of games use keystrokes to move characters and those of course won’t work either. I suppose I could plug a keyboard into the Acer (hooray for that full-sized USB port) but that seems to defeat the purpose of playing on a tablet.

    Even games that were built around point and click proved problematic at times. Clicking by tapping mostly worked fine, but when a game wanted me to hold the mouse button down and drag (to pan around a map, for instance) I’d be in trouble again. Sometimes it would work, but other times I’d end up scrolling the entire Web page instead of whatever was supposed to scroll inside the Flash app. There’s also the issue of clustered controls that are easy to target with a precise mouse cursor aren’t as easy to hit reliably with a big fat finger. Too often I’d trigger the control next to the one I really wanted to activate.

    And the last problem I had was with the size of Flash apps. The Acer has a screen resolution of 1280×800. Some Flash games I ran into didn’t quite fit into those dimensions (the x800 aspect), which surprised me considering how many people still run their systems at 1024×768, but I guess those people just get used to scrolling the page up and down slightly. To be fair, this issue can’t be blamed on Adobe.

    The bottom line is, if you’re thinking of buying an Android tablet instead of an iPad because you want something to play Facebook (or other Flash) games on, stop right there. At the very least, get into a store and try to run the games you play. As I said, I was only able to test on this one tablet and of course I didn’t test every Flash game out there! Maybe your favorite will work, but research it first.

    In my opinion, having Flash available on my Android tablet adds very little to the value of the device (and don’t get the wrong idea: overall I’m quite pleased with the Acer Iconia A500). If you disagree; if Flash is what makes your Android tablet really useful to you, then please leave a comment and explain why. It’s entirely possible I’m missing a Flash-based ‘killer app’ for Android tablets and frankly I’d love to be proven wrong.

    Drac
    Full Member

    iPad they’re very good and if he has an iPhone he can use the same apps he alreadu owns.

    Mum knows best.

    legend
    Free Member

    She does indeed!

    Thanks guys, that one ended up being remarkably simple for once!

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