- Another 'What Car' Thread. £5k Budget
Some of the above cars are so hard to find within budget with sub-100k miles on the clock.
Why the sub-100k criterion?
For £5k, buy on condition. I’d rather have something with 150k on the clock that has been looked after properly, than something with 50k that’s been used by someone who rarely cared to fill up the screenwash.
You can pick up good value over the 100k mark, simply because sellers have difficulty in shifting them due to most people having a mental block on a completely arbitrary number (which is quite mad when you think about it!).
Just found this…which should add a bit of perspective as to what these cars are capable of when looked after 🙂Posted 3 years agoHarry_the_SpiderSubscriber
An S Max for that money will be 7 years old with 100k+ on the clock. They are brilliant (IMHO) but they’re not cheap.
You could get a 09 plate Vectra Estate with 50k on the clock for that budget. I used to have one (54 plate that expired with a terminal electrical fault at 100k) and it was a big comfy family freighter.Posted 3 years agoloumMember
HtS is right on the S Max.Posted 3 years ago
Been looking into all the cars I mentioned, on a similar mission to yourselves, and that’s the more expensive for mileage/age , I guess ‘cos of popularity (as a good car) and lesser availability – say compared to something like a Zafira. There’s loads of them round and they’re a better “value” bet IMO, if not as nice or modern.
With a family of four, I reckon more the space and the option of more than 5 seats is pretty high on the agenda, for me anyway.
Allows the possibility of taking other people- like taking the grandparents out for example- which wouldn’t work with an estate no matter how big it is , except merc Eclass and a couple more.
What I’m trying to say is
Hatchback or estate? Petrol or diesel? Medium or large car?
Question for me is always, do you enjoy driving, and what sort will it do?
I drive my dad’s 1.6 focus petrol from time to time, imo it’s not a good choice… Not lacking in power at all but it’s revvy, makes it fairly annoying for just driving around and on motorways especially it cruises at fairly high revs, and is pretty bloomin noisy. Really needs a 6th gear imo. But it is the focus everyone buys so there are millions out there.
Bigger cars often drop the price- you can get a nicer mondeo for your money than a focus generally. I’m having a lot of trouble with mine just now but it’s been a great car up til that and probably will be again.Posted 3 years ago
It’s new car time, the trusty old 306 diesel hatchback has had it’s days. Mrs Bucko has a tiny Audi A1, we have 2 kids aged 1.5 and 2 so need lots of room for 2 strollers and all the other kit required for days out etc.
Probably doing about 10k miles a year, I love diesel but i’ve also considered petrol.
My decisions have hit a wall. Hatchback or estate? Petrol or diesel? Medium or large car?
When we set a budget for £5k we were excited about what cars we could look at but it appears in reality that £5k really doesn’t buy much these days!
So far looked at:
Ford Focus Hatch or estate 1.6 Zetec (petrol)
VW Golf V 1.6 FSI
VW Passat Estate
Skoda Octavia Estate
Saab 9-3 Estate
Peugeot 406 Estate
BMW 320d Estate
Honda Accord Estate
Some of the above cars are so hard to find within budget with sub-100k miles on the clock.
We want a nice car that will keep us happy for at lease 3 years. Are we missing something?
Any opinions or recommendations welcomedPosted 3 years ago
I understand that service history is important and high mileage can be a red herring but i just worry that if I plan on keeping a car for 3-5 years then the mileage will only get higher and depreciate the car more.
I’ve sort of excluded people carrier type cars as I don’t see why I need them.
My main priorities are having a ‘nice’ car, that is enjoyable to drive, i will still be happy with in a few years (so not dated in looks). Boot space is important, carrying other people other than the 4 of us isn’t.
I understand that petrol engine come with less risk of unexpected costs and reliability, but i do simply just prefer diesel.
Things like focus C-Max have small boots due to extra seats don’t they? Plus i need to stay away from the 1.6 TDCi engine apparentlyPosted 3 years agobikemike1968Member
For 10k a year you don’t want a diesel, too many big expensive things to go wrong at your price point.Posted 3 years ago
As ever, Japanese is your best bet for reliability. You won’t go wrong with a 4 cylinder, non turbo Japanese petrol engine – they go on for ever.
A Mazda 6 is a good shout, dirt cheap, big and comfortable. My 2006 1.8 does 39 to the gallon and has proved faultless in the 5 years I have owned it. For £5k you’ll get one of the updated ones as well- they’re really nice to drive.
I was sort of hoping for the traditional STW response of recommending what you own as I think that would be a valuable source of information and hopefully help weed out the bad cars.
I also need to consider that in about 12 months we will be using the strollers a lot less so boot space will be less of an issue but still a nice thing to have for days out and weekends away etc.
I think i’d have an 1.9 TDi Octavia estate if they were in my budget with less than 150k on the clock.Posted 3 years ago
You can get a ford focus zetec 1.6 diesel brand new on a 2yr lease with 10k limit from Evans Halshaw for 150 quid a month approx. I doubt I’ll buy a second hand car again with deals like that. Old cars especially diesel are money pits these days once they reach a certain age.Posted 3 years agoThe Flying OxMember
I was sort of hoping for the traditional STW response of recommending what you own
We’ve just spent a tad over £5k on a 8th generation Honda Civic, purely to get leather seats. There are plenty at £5k and under, and a lot with ~50,000 miles or less – ours was 54,000, full Honda service history. It was by far the best car in the price range. Huge boot (well it’s bigger than the boot in any other car we’ve had – takes 2 prams and a lot of luggage) with extra handy split rear seats for child + bike carrying duties, all mod cons (heated seats, sat nav, digital dash, etc.), the best interior by a country mile compared to its competitors, and the 1.8 V-tec petrol engine has been enlightening. Surprisingly quick, and in the month we’ve had it we’re hovering just under 42mpg average. There’s a diesel in the range too, if you’re that way inclined.Posted 3 years agoMarkieMember
I have a 12 year old diesel 406 (for £5000 you’d be getting one a great deal newer, I suspect) coming up to 200,000 miles which continues to be a great car (although the central locking has gone and the cigarette lighter doesn’t work – no iPhone satnav for me!).
Utterly reliable, reasonably comfortable, big (big!). Wing mirrors are small (as compared with SUV / crossover things.
RoadTrip app shows I’m getting 44 mpg.
We bought it at 2 years and 7000 miles old (I think) and my wife put the bulk of the mileage on it over the next three or four years. I now do around 12000 a year in it.Posted 3 years ago
Now I know its a business lease but it can’t be that much more for personal use.Posted 3 years agojoolsburgerMember
I’ve been very happy with my Accord it’s vast inside and very good for family trips. Well equipped and safe too. The 2.4 here is thirsty but my 2l is okay on fuel.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201403272842478/sort/default/usedcars/make/honda/page/1/model/accord/price-to/5500/radius/1501/keywords/estate/fuel-type/petrol/postcode/kt89lg/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/image-id/92e8cd8252aba0425f983cd1eb645c22?logcode=pPosted 3 years agopetrieboyMember
i just worry that if I plan on keeping a car for 3-5 years then the mileage will only get higher and depreciate the car more.
A 5k car is going to be worth next to nothing in 5 years so don’t worry about residual value and buy whatever is going to suit your needs.Posted 3 years ago
Our family car is a zafira. Perfectly acceptable vehicle. Cheap to fuel and service, parts are very cheap, powerful engine, comfortable (its not a base model) only real downside is its no good for putting bikes in. I expect £5k would get you a pretty late car
If I was buying again I’d be looking at the berlingoDelSubscriber
may want to consider the octavia ‘saloon’? it’s actually a hatchback. pretty decent sized boot i thought when i saw one. should open up a bit more choice.Posted 3 years ago
at your mileage also give serious thought to a petrol. quicker to warm up if you’re doing short journeys and you don’t have all the DPF and juddery clutch nonsense that can affect a lot of more modern diesels.
having read above about the civic/accord i’d be looking very closely at one of them with a petrol engine. the accord estates are flipping huge too, but again, the saloon may be plenty big enough.1 shedMember
Berlingo or similar, for families they are great. Loads of space and the sliding doors are really good with children combined with the height makes it dead easy getting them in and out. Huge boot space, also good to sit in with the boot up. You can fit a bike on the rear parcel shelf if your boots full when going on holiday.Posted 3 years agobenp1Subscriber
Petrol engined E60/E61 5 series should be within budget
I have a diesel E61 and it’s probably close to the budget. Two kids (1.5 and 2.5), big dog and lots of stuff. Carries bikes, furniture, roof box etc
It will be an early version of a car that only got changed in 2010 so won’t look dated for a whilePosted 3 years ago
With that focus you wouldn’t have any of the age related problems with the diesel, 55 to 60 mpg. It’s a no brainer really. If you need an economical car that is reliable and cheap to run why would you buy second hand.I might pop in tomorrow and get to the bare bones of that deal and see what the score is.Posted 3 years ago
A lease car? Not sure that’s my thing. Especially when it’ll cost £150 and you still have to pay for servicing and tyres.
I’m more confused as ever now. My 306 still has a few months tax and MOT on it so I think I need to use that time to get my head around things.
I’ve considered the Octavia and even the Mondeo ‘saloons’ because they are almost like a hatchback but I still think they’re a bit restricted for my needs.
Overnight my search seems to have been focused on 3 cars:
Focus 1.6 (115bhp petrol) Zetec with climate pack for about £4k. Big boot and lots of space for a hatch.
Golf 1.6 SE FSI for about £4-4.5k. Just because I like them. Not really that big on space.
Passat 1.9 TDi PD engine for under £5k. Old engine with only 105bhp and 5 speed gearbox but a nice modern car.
Basically I have no idea what I’m going to buy but I’m still disappointed with what £5k buys you. I almost feel like I should save some money and just spend £3k on an older Golf or Passat with higher mileage.Posted 3 years agospangelsaregreatMember
Just sold our Octavia 2.0 diesel (mark 2) and bought a 2.0 petrol Mazda 6 (last of the 1st gen ones). Both nice cars. The Mazda is a better drive. Not much in it in boot space, the Octavia is deeper but the Mazda is slightly wider which makes it easier to get bikes with wheels off in the boot. Both were hatches, still plenty of room though.Posted 3 years agoNorthwindSubscriber
Octavia estate is always a good option… the boot isn’t great for a car of its size, it’s a fair volume but not a great shape, lots of intrusions and a high lip on the lid etc. That’s fine for most folks, not ideal for bikes though. But I think for you still a great option.
Your pricepoint is a kind of tricky one tbh, I did exactly what you mention- set a budget of £5000 but ended up buying way cheaper. It felt like £2000 gets you up into “basically good”, maybe longlegged or some cosmetic roughness, but after that you get into a spell of diminishing returns. I think so many people buy on mileage and cosmetics that it skews the values.Posted 3 years ago
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