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  • jonnyboi
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    learnt what – I never said the conspiracy theories were true and I questioned what the point of bringing down WTC 7 would be anyway – given a conspiracy

    so you largely believe the official reports and the evidence that we’ve presented to you?

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    Still, no one has come up with a plausible reason as to why in the conspiracy theory the firemen in wtc7 would be warned to building was going to be blown up/down.

    …and why having been warned they ran around in open shouting out the top secret fact they’d learned from the lizards that the buildings were going to collapse.

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    I’m an episode of Sherlock that had a plane full of dead passengers, maybe they just loaded up the planes with corpses

    That well known, hard hitting documentary. Although as plausible as some of the YouTube links up there.

    nickc
    Full Member

    learnt what

    The “lower manhatten” defence?

    surroundedbyhills
    Free Member

    The thing is controlled explosions alway work, right?

    nealglover
    Free Member

    The “lower manhatten” defence?

    It’s nice being present at the birth. 😆

    razorrazoo
    Full Member

    Bit late to this, don’t remember it being mentioned, but I have a theory 🙂 – on the same day, at a similar time, two other planes that were not finally flown into the WTC were hi-jacked?

    Did one have a faulty sat-nav and flew into the Pentagon instead, and the other have its dead passengers come back to life as zombies which caused the plane to crash before reaching WTC7? In which case they just had to shrug shoulders and blow the building anyway?

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    Flight 93 wasn’t heading for the WTC. So the original plan wasn’t to crash 93 into WTC7. …but the Zombie bit sounds plausible.

    razorrazoo
    Full Member

    Flight 93 wasn’t heading for the WTC. So the original plan wasn’t to crash 93 into WTC7

    Apologies, I had not done my research properly and was not aware of the facts.

    PrinceJohn
    Full Member

    Apologies, I had not done my research properly and was not aware of the facts

    Don’t let that stop you. It certainly doesn’t stop the conspiracy theorists…

    CharlieMungus
    Free Member

    indeed, the scientific method on display here seems to be ‘disagreement on the data’ = ‘must have been explosion in the basement’

    What scientific method would you apply here? Or how would you apply scientific method here?

    TurnerGuy
    Free Member

    so you largely believe the official reports and the evidence that we’ve presented to you?

    never said I didn’t, just said that the video was quite compelling.

    It’s not my fault that you guys wanted to argue for 23 pages…

    5plusn8
    Free Member

    Yes I do like the definition of the “Lower Manhattan Defence” chapeau, it is playing out nicely here. Is there some kind awards system for neologisms on here? Nickc surely is line for a prize or medal of some kind.
    We need to keep this in mind next time a 911 thread starts, particularly if Turner guy is involved.

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    never said I didn’t, just said that the video was quite compelling.

    I think “convincing” was the word used, and you didn’t stop posting nonsense after that did you?

    Holyzeus
    Free Member

    It’s neither compelling or convincing

    jonnyboi
    Full Member

    TurnerGuy – Member
    never said I didn’t, just said that the video was quite compelling.

    Well, you never said you did either, and spent the next 23 pages throwing up mostly nonsense and not addressing the sensible responses.

    But it’s good to know you actually believe the rational explanation.

    sbob
    Free Member

    Whathaveisaidnow – Member

    Still, no one has come up with a plausible reason as to how it was deemed to be very imminent of collapse.

    Is there consensus that it was deemed imminent of collapse?

    It’s just that according to my sources, witness accounts can vary immensely and be quite unreliable.

    For instance, I know of one nutter who thinks WTC7 was rigged with fireproof explosives connected with fireproof wires and was brought down professionally despite according to video posted by such nutcases you can see “explosives” going off after the building has started to collapse.
    Maybe the split second timing afforded by the set-up of modern explosives was affected by the raging inferno, just not enough to stop them going off prematurely or stop them failing altogether.

    All very plausible.

    TurnerGuy
    Free Member

    I think “convincing” was the word used

    this is a bit like the truthers – ignoring the evidence in front of you – it’s right there on page 1, the first post – “compelling”.

    It’s neither compelling or convincing

    one meaning of compelling is “evoking interest or attention” so I think it qualifies.

    The discussion could have been about production standards, selective and manipulative presentation of facts, or non-facts, outright lies, use of qualified people making it seem more convincing.

    amedias
    Free Member

    slowoldman – Member
    I think “convincing” was the word used

    TurnerGuy – Member
    this is a bit like the truthers – ignoring the evidence in front of you – it’s right there on page 1, the first post – “compelling”.

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    er…to quote you “it’s right there on page 1, the first post ” (just apparently not in your memory)

    TurnerGuy – Member
    ok, so I’ve seen some of the conspiracy videos on youtube and some of them can be quite convincing.

    ^ from the first LINE of your first post

    I know you also used the wordd compelling later in the post, but if you’re gonna be picky, expect others to be equally so.

    CharlieMungus
    Free Member

    ok, so I’ve seen some of the conspiracy videos on youtube and some of them can be quite convincing.

    just said that the video was quite compelling.

    Looks like he was right, amedias

    If you’re gonna be picky, expect others to be equally so.

    amedias
    Free Member

    Looks like he was right, amedias

    If you’re gonna be picky, expect others to be equally so.

    Indeed, he used both words, however his post responding to slowoldman implied he contested that he used the word convincing.

    So if we’re going to be super picky ‘compelling’ referred to a single video (posted), convincing referred to ‘the videos’. I’d argue that ‘the single video’ is included as a subset of ‘some of the videos’ but now we really are getting into proper picky 😀

    However, this thread is compelling, even if the subject matter of it isn’t

    CharlieMungus
    Free Member

    No, specifically he said that the video was compelling, some videos are convincing, but this one, as he reminds us on this page, he said was compelling

    amedias
    Free Member

    Point conceded.

    CharlieMungus
    Free Member

    I win!!!!!!

    edit – 😉

    amedias
    Free Member

    I win!!!!!!

    close thread?

    It’d be nice to have a thread with a clear winner for once 🙂

    CharlieMungus
    Free Member

    it certainly was!

    5plusn8
    Free Member

    amedias – Member
    Point conceded.

    CharlieMungus – Member
    I win!!!!!!

    edit –

    I think the scientific method wins. In the face of evidence amedias is easily convinced. I wonder how this works for the CTists?

    CharlieMungus
    Free Member

    I think the scientific method wins

    this has not been scientific method! By anyone in here!

    5plusn8
    Free Member

    Umm you presented amedias with evidence to change his convincing/compelling hypothesis about turner guy, he saw evidence and agreed.

    CharlieMungus
    Free Member

    there was no hypothesis or experiment

    amedias
    Free Member

    there was no hypothesis or experiment

    says who?

    maxtorque
    Full Member

    er, um, i’m pretty sure that are no winners on this thread, but just an awful lot of losers…..

    (yes, i am aware of the dichotomy of that statement 😉

    CharlieMungus
    Free Member

    says who?

    amedias
    Free Member

    says who?

    CharlieMungus » there was no hypothesis or experiment

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    I wouldn’t take some random bloke on the internets’ word for it if I were you…

    CharlieMungus
    Free Member

    Well, ok, if you say so.

    jonnyboi
    Full Member

    …unless he has a you tube video to back it up

    amedias
    Free Member

    Maybe if there was some kind of supplementary evidence, a Youtube video perhaps? Doesn’t have to be Youtube, a brightly coloured website with big fonts might work, something like that anyway….

    EDIT – bah! too slow

    TurnerGuy
    Free Member

    Anyway, try the Sand Wars documentatary – that is compelling, and true.

    Can’t find a free link to it anymore though, at least in this country.

    🙂

    CharlieMungus
    Free Member

    What? after 23 pages, you want to start all over again with another ‘compelling’ video?
    Just **** off!

    5plusn8
    Free Member

    Turner guy has blotted his copybook, once the lower manhattan defence was invoked it became impossible to take anything he says seriously. Imagine that, if all your threads in future will be taken utterly out of context, nobody would believe anything you say for fear of being sucked into a web of trolling. Sad.

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