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500 watts for 5 minutes? Anyone done it?
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Just curious, did 506w for 3 min and nearly died (on an exercise bike). No hills or suitable straights to do it around here on the road unfortunately, a turbo trainer is tempting however..
Figure a bigger rider like van der poel might pull it off? Or perhaps an endurance track sprinter?
Posted 2 months agoI reckon it wouldn’t trouble anyone paid to ride a bike, and a fair few who aren’t. For hours, rather than minutes.
Posted 2 months agoAll the time, doing it now. Whilst sipping a Martini.
Posted 2 months agoWhat’s that in W/kg?
Posted 2 months agoSerge Pauwels did perhaps 470 watts at 64 kg..
Posted 2 months agoListening to magnus backstedt casually throw his old numbers out in commentary on Eurosport is astonishing. He’d be knackered in the alps but on flatish roads he was doing 500w for 20m and his 3-4 min attacks were 800w or something. 🤯
Posted 2 months agoI stand, sort of, corrected. Wiggins apparently averaged 440watts over his hour record.
Posted 2 months agoMagnus Backstedt claimed 535 watts for 20 minutes which is really nuts https://www.bikeforums.net/33-road-bike-racing/350313-wattage-backstedt-2.html
Posted 2 months agoOnly the one time and it was on a climb, which always over-estimates the power for me. Around 6.5w/kg. Not sure I’d get close on a trainer or want to even try. I’ve done plenty of 450-500w 5 minutes though so I would have thought that 500w wouldn’t be hard for any decent hill climbers or racers.
Posted 2 months agoBear in mind that Serge Pauwels profile is during a 127km stage not just a 3min. effort.
Posted 2 months agoTo be clear I don’t have one 500w effort in me but i understand it’s not the ability to do one which is exceptional it’s the ability to recover very quickly and do 2, 3, 4, 5 etc. in a race situation which sets MVDP apart as a bit of a freak. Others can put out more but not repeat it close together.
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Posted 2 months ago(on an exercise bike)
I’d say it was a fairly tall order for mere mortals.
I did go off and check zwiftpower. Most of the top riders were high 400s for 5 minutes but didn’t see any with 20W of 500.
A friend of mine is a continental pro for Ribble. Fairly handy on the hills. He was 8th at the Nationals and must be 75ish Kg.
I checked some of his number and he has 476W for a 6minute climb.
Posted 2 months agoNearly. Think it was a 445w average over a 4’58” timed hillclimb. Usual club format of a 35 mile loop before then PIN numbers on and timed hillclimb for end of season.
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I’d say there’s plenty of club riders who could do it. Wasn’t pleasant.
Data from crank pm.About 20 seconds for me 😥
Posted 2 months agoHere’s a lad under 90 kg that did it!
Posted 2 months agoJust the once ~13 months ago, when my 4iiii’s battery was practically dead and decided I did a world class ride. 😆
Posted 2 months agoApparently I’ve done 400w for 5 minutes. 500w is just obscene.
Posted 2 months agoNext question, anyone under 80 kg done it ;p
Posted 2 months agoAndrew Coggan’s chart any good?
Posted 2 months agoIt depends what you mean by ‘watt’ and ‘minute’.
Posted 2 months agoThat’s a very interesting chart! I don’t ride road bikes but I commute on my Levo which apparently has quite a good power meter built in, if I bother to connect the app. Will have to see how good/bad a pedaller I am, in a more objective way.
Posted 2 months agoW/Kg chart doesn’t scale properly with weight, heavier riders are at a disadvantage.
Think a 100 kg rider could do 760 watts (7.6 watts pr kg) for 5 minutes? No I don’t think any human has done that and if such a human existed it would win the tour easily.
Also such a 100 kg rider would have an FTP of 608 watts, this would enable them to average 67 km/h in a time trial at 2560 mos.A 60 kg rider doing 456 watts for 5 minutes however? Definitely.
Posted 2 months ago450w for 5 min on the flat was my pb at 72 kg. Nearly killed me and I needed a couple of days off…
Posted 2 months agoThat’s impressive.
The chart may not scale well but realistically someone 100kg is not in the right ball park.
Posted 2 months agoI was 82kg. My ftp that year was 335w.
Posted 2 months agoI way for me. That’s right in my weak spot of my power profile. My PB puts me in the “good” spot. That was recorded a while ago though, as my current 20 min power is only 20w lower, so maybe if I tried again I’d improve.
Posted 2 months agoGood chart but can we see the rest of it please…there seem to be a couple of rows missing 😂
Posted 2 months agoMy FTP is around 4.25W/kg at 72kg and I can do about 3mins at 500W or 5mins at 375-390W. My average across a 2-3hour ride is 225W.
500W for 5 mins would be a killer for me. I’d need a lung transplant at around 3.5mins.
Posted 2 months agoLooking back at my old rides I managed 425W for 5min back in 2017. This year my best is 405W. Interesting though due to my weight loss this year my W/KG for 5min is better in 2020. 5.3 as opposed to 4.94. So I’m guessing I’d be quicker uphill with the new me compared to the old fatty bum bum me. I really need to train more doing V02 efforts more though, being a Diesel engined long distance TT’r I don’t do enough short, sharp intervals.
Posted 2 months ago5.53W/kg according to Strava. Not convinced by that chart.
Posted 2 months agoAre you saying your FTP is 5.53W/kg @Flaperon? >400W output for an hour? Impressive if true.
Posted 2 months agoNo, 5.53W/kg for five minutes 😭
Posted 2 months agoNo idea what I put out. Strava thinks 230w on a climb. So not 500w
700w for a few min.
Same as a toaster!
Posted 2 months agoThat’s 700w or a bit less for 1 minute no? I’ve done 745w for 1 minute on the road and 904w on an echo bike. Show me someone who can do 1000w for 1 minute..
Posted 2 months agoThe KWh they stated suggests he did 3 min (correction, bit under 2). Not sure a sprinter was quite the best man for the job – I wonder what that sky/ineos TTer (or anyone else who’s been a pursuiter) boshes out for 5 minutes
Posted 2 months agoAh yes so 700W for 1 min 48 seconds – that’s something, but yeah probably not the best man for the job.
Posted 2 months ago360w for 5m, can hold 500w for about a minute and a half so it’s safe to say I’ve got no hope of managing that!
Posted 2 months agoMy best’s are something like 606w for 1 minute and 389w for 5 minutes, from about 5 years ago when I paid a lot more attention to my numbers and actually trained, thats with a 20 min best of about 312w.
Peak power was around 1320w IIRC and did 5 second max of about 1100w.
Those values got me to 2nd cat, winning 4 out of the 5 crits I entered that season, including a 2/3/4. I didnt get any top 10’s in road races though, always survived the cut but tended to dip out on the final climb. Thats all at about 72kg.
I reckon I know a couple who could do 500w for 5 mins, but they are big guys. On the return to Pollenca last year it felt like I did 500w for 5 minutes just trying to sit on the wheel of one guy!
506w for 3 minutes is seriously good too, assuming of course your exercise bike is accurate, which is a big assumption.
Posted 2 months agoCan you translate for those of us who aren’t roadies? How much is 500 watts in football pitches?
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