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Tonights races are a bit slim picking and my legs are still dead.

I think I'm going to do the WBR 5km race at 7:05pm - see what I can do with the stages PM. Then a 10 mile Z2 cool down.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 10:18 am
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KISS 2nd base @ 8pm looks good to me.... No use to you though sorry.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 10:22 am
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Well, following my rantette yesterday about my non-functioning Flow Smart I have just called Halfords & they have said it's fine to come in & swap the dead one for the one that I dropped off with them yesterday (with the missing bits).

Obviously I'll keep the bits that I need that aren't with the one I am picking up, but fingers crossed that this one works OK!

Got a new telly for the living room being delivered today, so hopefully I'll have time to get both set-up this evening!


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 10:29 am
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Probably have a crack at the EVR Asia race @ 11am if work allows, Watopia Figure 8 course so a nice mix of flat with a couple of climbs!


 
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KISS 2nd base @ 8pm looks good to me.... No use to you though sorry.

Too late for me, otherwise I would have snuck in and done some domestique work for you ๐Ÿ˜†

P.s. Dropped my weight a little, daren't put it in Zwift/Strava yet though lol


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 10:59 am
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glitch I've found is trying to calibrate. First few spin downs were 'too loose' so I turned it up a fair way to see if I could get it too tight and then kept getting error in calibration messages. S

I get exactly this every time on my flow, drives me nuts


 
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I get exactly this every time on my flow, drives me nuts

me too but doesn't drive me nuts.

bike stays on turbo, so roller tightness doesn't change, check the pressure every now and again. I settled on between the white lines would do.


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 12:41 pm
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Crosshair, hard to say really as so many variables. Tonights z2 ride was 100k with 1100m elevation gain in 2:55 off 240 watts (@ 71kg), probably not too far off given reasonable conditions.

You zone 2 at 240W? Blimey


 
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Ok i have just done my first race and i am a bit confused. I did the ZGR Asia at 11am and i think i put myself in cat A and not sure how i did that. Also how do you know when the race has finished, i didnt see any confirmation or are you might to know the mileage of the course and work to that?
I finished 16th but i still had plenty left in the tank so will have to pace it better. My set up still isnt accurate i dont believe, i think it puts me faster than i am.
Was anyone from here in that race?


 
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me too but doesn't drive me nuts.

bike stays on turbo, so roller tightness doesn't change, check the pressure every now and again. I settled on between the white lines would do.

Bike comes off turbo constantly, so having to spend extra minutes calibrating is annoying, plus I like it when things work as they should not having to accept a fault the manufacture isn't bothered about


 
Posted : 09/01/2017 1:07 pm
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Some race endings seem a little random. Some you just have to carry on a couple of hundred m after what the specified distance is, some end at a certain time limit...

Some just end up a mess.

Out of 4 races last week, only 1 made it onto Zwiftpower and that still hasn't been finalised so no results.

I think Zwift and Zwiftpower are outgrowing themselves and their organisers at times.


 
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Zwift aren't interested in racing or enforcing rules against their paying subscribers.

ZP is run by volunteers so are seemingly beyond reproach ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜€


 
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Some race endings seem a little random. Some you just have to carry on a couple of hundred m after what the specified distance is, some end at a certain time limit...

Some just end up a mess.

Out of 4 races last week, only 1 made it onto Zwiftpower and that still hasn't been finalised so no results.

I was going to enter the race at 8pm tonight (my first one) but not sure I'll bother if it's as you say, as I know that would just annoy me. Think I'll just stick to the workouts for now.


 
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You zone 2 at 240W? Blimey

That's my 20 minute FTP, and I weigh a lot more than 71kg!


 
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I was going to enter the race at 8pm tonight (my first one) but not sure I'll bother if it's as you say, as I know that would just annoy me. Think I'll just stick to the workouts for now.

TOnights is one of the bigger organisers KISS, they should be fine, hence me entering it.


 
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Was anyone from here in that race?
Yep, me, as a C - which it looks like I might "win" if the two guys above me get DQ'd for too much power ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

There is a bug (I'm guessing) which sometimes stops the "distance to go" meter counting down and means you don't get told when the race actually ends. Doesn't happen too often, but happened to me as well on this race (I wonder if it happened to everyone on that race?) The only thing you can do is take note of the distance of the race (which was displayed) and then compare that to your distance travelled. It won't match up exactly, but most races also (unless they're only covering part of a route) end under the start/end lap banner (like todays one did) so knowing the routes helps.

i think i put myself in cat A and not sure how i did that
On any race that isn't a mass start (all cats together) you actually have to select what category you want to race in on the Zwift app before you start the ride. The letter (A, B, C, etc) will illuminate and the others will dim. You probably just clicked on the race once & selected A by default rather than C (although with your power output you're definitely a B!!)

Out of 4 races last week, only 1 made it onto Zwiftpower
You can check on ZP before choosing a race as all upcoming races for the day will be on there. If it's not on there before the race, it won't be there after.


 
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HAHA What a tool - I've just looked at my HR Zones, Zone 2 for me is 116 - 154 (Rest 45 Max 198). [b]All [/b]my Z2 training up until now has been at 120bpm or 130bpm ๐Ÿ˜ณ

ZP is sorted by the race organisers, all manually, there's a breakdown of what they do here: http://brsrace.wixsite.com/brsrace/zwiftpower


 
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HAHA What a tool - I've just looked at my HR Zones, Zone 2 for me is 116 - 154 (Rest 45 Max 198). All my Z2 training up until now has been at 120bpm or 130bpm

Given the ranges, 130 sounds like a reasonable target for mid Z2 work. Better to work from power ranges though IMO as they're more less variable with conditions and don't drift (unless you're using virtual power ๐Ÿ˜‰ )


 
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Given the ranges, 130 sounds like a reasonable target. Better to work from power ranges though IMO as they're more less variable with conditions and don't drift (unless you're using virtual power)

I always use a TT bike for Z2 spins, I've been using the Tacx for power (only 5w out compared to the rented stages). I'll test this out properly though this week, last 130bpm ride was 11 miles @ 204w av /222w weighted average (not sure what the difference is). I'm expecting around 195w with the stages.

REALLY looking forward to comparing Zwift data to real world - as geeky as that sounds (CDA/Road buzz)!


 
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weighted average (not sure what the difference is).

Same as NP ([url= http://home.trainingpeaks.com/blog/article/what-is-normalized-power ]here[/url]).

I always use a TT bike for Z2 spins

Do you mean a TT bike on the turbo, or a TT bike selected in Zwift? If Zwift, what's the difference and why for specifically for Z2 spins?


 
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The TT bike is unique in that you can't draft on it (although it can be drafted). I'd imagine it's pretty aero though! (There are websites where people have tested all the bikes and bike/wheel combos on the various routes in waaayyyy too much detail ๐Ÿ™‚ )


 
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@mrblobby - Cheers I'll have a read.

In game, as above, the TT bike is more consistent as I can't draft anyone with it.


 
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In game, as above, the TT bike is more consistent as I can't draft anyone with it.

Ah right, so when I get my smart turbo it might be better to select a TT bike if I don't want it messing about with the resistance when I come up behind people?


 
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Yep! Obviously need to switch if you're doing non TT races/group rides.


 
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I don't think resistance changes when you are drafting, I have never noticed it. Drafting means that you use less power for the same speed, but the trainer doesn't adjust the resistance.


 
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TOnights is one of the bigger organisers KISS, they should be fine, hence me entering it.

I might give it a go then. I'll see how the evening pans out.


 
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Keep us posted Muggo, i'me pretty easy to find in the list from my username on here, it's fairly apparent if you see me on there.

What Cat you thinking og ?


 
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TOnights is one of the bigger organisers KISS, they should be fine, hence me entering it.

I have always got results from KISS races but had an issue last week with Wednesday's TT. distance was 10 miles so 16km ish, for some reason Zwiftpower was looking for a distance of 18km.

Anyone else see that last week?


 
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[quote=Jason ]I don't think resistance changes when you are drafting, I have never noticed it. Drafting means that you use less power for the same speed, but the trainer doesn't adjust the resistance.

pretty sure it doesn't, which is why its so easy to glide straight on by when trying to pick up a wheel.


 
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http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/wahoo-ant-usb-stick

handy for anyone trying to get setup...


 
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Keep us posted Muggo, i'me pretty easy to find in the list from my username on here, it's fairly apparent if you see me on there.

What Cat you thinking og ?

D I expect. I'll post up here later if I'm doing it. Only issue might be the start time, I can see there being a very huffy mrs muggo with the noise of the turbo from the spare room while she's trying to watch Corrie or whatever.


 
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I have always got results from KISS races but had an issue last week with Wednesday's TT. distance was 10 miles so 16km ish, for some reason Zwiftpower was looking for a distance of 18km.

Anyone else see that last week?

If that was the iTT, then yup, i'm one of the people who didn't get a result for that .... Which was REALLY irritating as i thought i had by a fair way my best race/performance on Zwift. I saw where the guy i was racing with finished and he got a 3rd in C.... but i rekon 50% of the field were non finishers having only done 10.6km ! So i have no idea what my actual result would have been but i did finish the race with 2.9w/kg which is epic for me.

http://www.zwiftpower.com/race.php?id=2351


 
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pretty sure it doesn't, which is why its so easy to glide straight on by when trying to pick up a wheel.
yeah it definitely doesn't, the only thing that affects resistance is gradient


 
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If that was the iTT, then yup, i'm one of the people who didn't get a result for that .... Which was REALLY irritating as i thought i had by a fair way my best race/performance on Zwift. I saw where the guy i was racing with finished and he got a 3rd in C.... but i rekon 50% of the field were non finishers having only done 10.6km ! So i have no idea what my actual result would have been but i did finish the race with 2.9w/kg which is epic for me.

Yes that was the one. Same scenario as you for me; that was my best performance to date, also 2.9w/Kg so we must have finished close to each other.


 
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MAybe we should all start changing our names to reflect the STW status.

e.g

Fred Bloggs STW KISS (C)

Would potentially make it more interesting and still should fit within the screen/naming conventions.

I'll do mine later.


 
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Yeah I'd be up for that! Just have to get Zwift to add the official STW jersey into the game now! ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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Zilog, while you're here, your Neo, do you Bluetooth or ANT+? Mine should be here this week and ideally I'd like it to be all Bluetooth and not need to use an adapter.


 
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Maybe the resistance changes in the my head as I slow the pedaling down (if wanting to draft lol).

@weeksy & mossimus - Sorry if you are using ZP for that data it isn't reliable. I have no idea why it isn't but there's a couple of times when it's showed me on a ridiculous number, and then when sync'd properly with Strava it goes back down to normal. For example click the live tab on this: http://www.zwiftpower.com/race.php?id=1930 versus the actual result?


 
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MAybe we should all start changing our names to reflect the STW status.

e.g

Fred Bloggs STW KISS (C)

Would potentially make it more interesting and still should fit within the screen/naming conventions.

I was gonna suggest we did this after my last session on there, but then forgot about it.....can't see any reason not to.


 
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Maybe the resistance changes in the my head as I slow the pedaling down (if wanting to draft lol).

@weeksy & mossimus - Sorry if you are using ZP for that data it isn't reliable. I have no idea why it isn't but there's a couple of times when it's showed me on a ridiculous number, and then when sync'd properly with Strava it goes back down to normal. For example click the live tab on this: http://www.zwiftpower.com/race.php?id=1930 versus the actual result?

Don't upset me, i'm delicate.... it was more than 2.5 which is my average... Although admittedly it was a shorter distance than usual ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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Zilog, while you're here, your Neo, do you Bluetooth or ANT+?
Bluetooth using my iPad - not even tried it with ANT+. Plus HRM & separate cadence monitor, works perfectly, not had any connection problems.

Decided to keep my Neo... all the weird noises went away. There's a slight notchiness at low RPM/power but I think that's just the magnets and it's normal. Don't even notice/think about it during a race.


 
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Don't upset me, i'm delicate.... it was more than 2.5 which is my average... Although admittedly it was a shorter distance than usual

Sorry mate ๐Ÿ™


 
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Hahahahahaha. FFS. I'm not that delicate ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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This name changing convention stuff. Do you do that in your profile before joining an event, so people can see you're in the event as opposed to just riding around? Or is it somewhere else?


 
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Correct.

You can do via Zwift.com in advance too.


 
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