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Apologies in advance to anyone struggling to keep a banger going in order to keep their job and feed their family, first world problems, peak STW etc.

So my 2005 Seat Leon Mk1 (1.8 turbo) is going in for its MOT and having almost made it to 100K miles, and I don't have high hopes for it passing without the need for moderately expensive repairs (definitely needs both rear door locks replaced which will involve breaking out one jammed one).

It's still running well, quite fun to drive, but it's definitely coming to the end of its relatively-trouble-free life. Therefore I am considering replacing it rather than spending more on repairs (if they find anything substantial) than it's worth (perhaps £1.5k on a good day)

My requirements are: 5 door hatchback, doesn't need to hold children, pets or bikes, is used only a couple of times a week, usually once for a supermarket run and once for a 60 mile round trip mostly on the motorway, plus occasional cargo/IKEA trips and longer-distance runs (400+ miles), and wants to be something I like the look of and can enjoy driving. I'm definitely no driving god or master of 'making progress' but I do like to have a bit of response to the accelerator. Definitely looking for used rather than brand new, but low mileage.

Budget is a funny thing - I have (through inheritance and luck more than judgement) got more money available than I am willing to consider spending on a car. I've only ever bought one car (the aforementioned Seat) and am still stuck in the mindset that ten grand is a lot. My wife recently bought a Toyota Yaris for around that, and I have driven that and found it a bit anaemic and want something better/more powerful, so clearly I need to recalibrate what is 'worth it' for me.

Having said all that, I quite like the look of something like an Audi A3 or S3. Obviously buying an Audi would instantly turn me into, well, and Audi driver, but apart from that, would the running costs and maintenance be deadly? Should I go electric instead - my driving patterns don't really seem to suit electric in my view - I have a garage and a drive so charging at home wouldn't be a problem, but for the long distance trips I'm not so sure? Are all 'nice' electric cars (e.g. Tesla) way outside my budget? Advice please!


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 10:56 am
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I would go for a nice Golf GTD. Brilliant car. Or an Audi A3 - I have a 2.0 TDI S-Line and its a pleasure to drive. Plenty of room, nippy and very easy on fuel.The S-Line suspension is a bit firm and takes a bit of getting used to but other than that they are a great car - mine is 2009 and they aren't big money.


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 11:03 am
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Forgot to add I don't want to go with diesel... really not keen on it environmentally, and may need to drive into central London and/or Bristol now and again and diesel seems like it would not be a good idea.


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 11:15 am
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perhaps £1.5k on a good day

For a 2005 Leon with >100k? Are you sure?


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 11:30 am
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For a 2005 Leon with >100k? Are you sure?

Hah, no, not sure at all - just did a quick Google. I did say on a good day...


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 11:32 am
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Golf Gti?
My brother has had a 2017 Mk7.5 227hp (not Performance Pack) from new. Great to drive, very comfortable and on a long drive driven Sensibly will do 45mpg plus


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 11:36 am
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Fiat Panda? BY reputation a lot of fun to drive


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 11:39 am
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My neighbour has a Panda 100hp, supposed to be a hoot to drive but a bit of a strain over a longer distance as a bit noisy


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 11:43 am
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BMW 130i?
Smart, good looking, fast and the ultimate driving machine
Not an owner so cannot comment on the mpg figures
Should be lovely on a run though


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 2:02 pm
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Advice column here


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 2:31 pm
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Ford Focus St also ticks most of those boxes
Not afanboi but the chassis is supposed to be very good
Volvo 2.5 engine tuned to St spec, don't know about mpg figures but will be into 30, s on a run


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 2:58 pm
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I had an Audi S3 a few years ago and while it was ludicrously quick and also lovely inside, it had literally less than Zero soul. Not quite Korean levels of soullessness, but still. I've got a mk5 GTI now. You'd get a mk6 for your 10k budget and you'd never need anything else.


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 3:40 pm
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Volvo C30 could be a good shout, too!


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 3:41 pm
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Volvo 2.5 engine tuned to St spec, don’t know about mpg figures but will be into 30, s on a run

I used to have one and you’d be lucky to get into the 30s. Mid 20s was a more common average. Great car, poor economy and eats front tyres. You also won’t get a low mileage one these days. The newer ST will likely be better.


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 4:19 pm
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I have an Audi S3 currently and while it is ludicrously quick and also lovely inside, it has literally less than Zero soul.

To be fair to the S3, it's slightly more interesting than the S4 I had before.

Get a Golf. GTi or R, depending on how sprightly you want to be. If it's an R, the blue is nice although everyone thinks the same so there are so many of them around. Virtual cockpit is neat too.


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 4:34 pm
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A Seat Leon?


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 4:36 pm
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Just start banking the money you would spend on a shiny new car each month.

Wait until the Seat does actually die.

Our Ibiza is 2012 on 87k and feels fresh and fine.


 
Posted : 14/11/2019 7:14 pm
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Slightly disappointingly in the end (except for my bank balance), the MOT revealed only one dud sidelight bulb aside from the jammed door, so it looks like no new car for me this year!

Thanks for all the tips though. Golf (R, potentially) definitely interesting, not convinced by the Panda (!), simple replacement with a new(er) Seat Leon does kinda make sense actually. Low(ish) mileage Volvo C30 or BMW 130i seems hard to find...


 
Posted : 15/11/2019 4:20 pm
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Slightly disappointingly in the end

However I see that as a total win.


 
Posted : 15/11/2019 6:54 pm
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Yeah it's a win really, but I'd started to get a little bit kid-on-Christmas-Eve about the excitement of new shiny thing... still, happy to keep the current car going, as I do enjoy driving it and it does meet all my current needs. Might get it valeted and deep cleaned as a reward for faithful service.


 
Posted : 16/11/2019 9:55 am
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It always impresses me how much better an old car looks after someone else has cleaned it properly. 😀


 
Posted : 16/11/2019 10:26 am
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I'd make sure you test all the options you consider. Everyone seems to rave about the Golf but every time I've been in one I have been underwhelmed. Noisy in the back too.


 
Posted : 16/11/2019 10:52 am