[Closed] Yesterdays shooting & todays protest.

Ferris & Pigface - also, a police car was shot at outside a Bradford nightclub in the early hours of Christmas day.

I don't really see why it's anything to do with Bradford, what with it happening in Huddersfield, armed officers being based in Wakefield and the chap living in Huddersfield!

[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/04/family-man-shot-dead-police-join-mp-appeal-calm-protests/ ][/url]

Worth a read.

If even 10pc of that is true I can see why the rozzers might have needed to defend themselves in this way.

I don't really see why it's anything to do with Bradford

Perhaps he had a lot of customers in Bradford.

Come on Edukator, you need to carry on the story....

That's Pieface not me, the only knowledge I know is that shooting a gun in a car will really mess with your hearing and can be physically paiful

There's no more to tell, Morecashthandash, other than we were in the Spanish Basque country in a French registered van and ETA had been busy.

MoreCashThanDash - Member

Come on Edukator, you need to carry on the story....

Probably pulled by intertroll. 😉

How much of a threat would have have been shooting from inside the car?

Even if he had a gun, I imagine getting an accurate shot from the drivers seat would be very slim, and as the Police would most likely be wearing body armour, this could be seen as an over-reaction to an overall low-risk situation.

Definite candidate for the most idiotic post on here for a while.

Definite candidate for the most idiotic post on here for a while.

It's the post that keeps giving, the more I read it the more amusing stupidity I find in it.

[i]Definite candidate for the most idiotic post on here for a while. [/i]

Until someone comes up with the 'shoot the gun out of his hand' option.

Until someone comes up with the 'shoot the gun out of his hand' option.

There's a Youtube vid of an American cop doing just that to a "suicide by cop" bloke waving a gun at the police.

"Black lives matter" clearly have so justified grievances but there are equally criminals and people with mental health issues of all colours and creeds who do some very daft and provocative things when faced with armed police.

#drugdealerslivesmatter 🙂

Parents have given an interview. Apparently he was a "kind hearted boy" and they can't understand why he was shot.

There's a Youtube vid of an American cop doing just that to a "suicide by cop" bloke waving a gun at the police.

I suspect a lot of marksman would be willing to try if the guy was just threatening to shoot himself - less so if they were threatening to shoot anyone else though.

Parents have given an interview. Apparently he was a "kind hearted boy" and they can't understand why he was shot

I heard also that the father said he was "spoiled" and that he (the father) had bought all the fancy cars for him. Delusional.

Apparently he was a "kind hearted boy"

[i]There's a Youtube vid[/i]

I've seen the video thanks yonks ago, and I knew it would be suggested by a troll. Bloke was sat down in the open, no immediate threat.

Apparently he was a "kind hearted boy"

He gave free hugs with each kilo of Heroin.

The one in the US where the gun was shot out of the blokes hand was a one off I think. The marksman was relatively close, was prone, had a solid rest on the rifle and spotted a pattern with the way the subject was moving the pistol. I still say he was lucky (and a good shot).

I'm also not sure why you'd call a known drug dealer with a potential firearm going against people in body armour low risk. It's not just the chance of the round striking the 10"x13" plate (call it about 9% of your body's surface area), you have head, arms, legs, other people downrange...

Any time there is a gun involved, it's high risk.

The one in the US where the gun was shot out of the blokes hand was a one off I think. The marksman was relatively close, was prone, had a solid rest on the rifle and spotted a pattern with the way the subject was moving the pistol. I still say he was lucky (and a good shot).

"I was aiming for his head" 😀

Andy R - Member

chewkw - Member
I just noticed one of the London force was using Ruger Mini-14 (5.56) in the past ... niccee ... one of my favourite if I were to own one.

"One of my favourites"?? Why would you ever want to own one ?

Okay folks don't get too excited coz I ain't buying one in the UK. I repeat I ain't going to get anything at all Okay.

Like any technology I just happen to like them things that can hurl projectile at fast speed, just like Ruger GP100 or Ruger GP100 Match Champion for sport competition ... but does not mean I want to get one desperately.

The rules regarding firearm in the UK are so severely strict I doubt the police has a trigger happy "Quick Draw McGraw" approach to firearm incident.

Well the latest on the Beeb channel:
"A man shot dead in a police operation off the M62 died from gunshot wounds to chest, post-mortem tests have shown".

Update with Regards the firearm found:

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/news/update-man-charged-firearms-offences-incident-near-junction-24-m62-huddersfield

So if the rules were...

"Those found to be carrying illegal firearms will be shot without provocation upon confirmation of a firearm being present"

Do you think people would still break the law?

AFAIK wtf would a member of the public need a firearm for outside of recreation, you certainly don't need one for pottering about on the m62?

..you clearly don't use J24 of the '62; copper probably just lost his shit trying to figure out which exit off the roundabout to head north on the '629.

Seriously though, bravo everyone on talking this much bollocks on something nobody knows anything about 🙂

So the dead man was an office clerk by trade. I am clearly in the wrong job if an office clerk can afford super cars 🙁

The whole Bradford thing is odd and could start all kinds of racism calls on here.

However Bradford has the largest number of uninsured drivers in the U.K. and nothing appears to happen.

Many big legit businesses in Bradford have been built up on the proceeds of drug money.

Relations have always been strained in Bradford and it definitely feels like the Status Quo is just maintained to avoid trouble/the race card coming out.

Shooting a fellow drug dealer is not maintaining the status quo, hence why the local Bradfordians (with nice big farms in ****stan) got a little upset

I'm glad there is one less person carrying a gun around...even if he was a nice lad, after all he never actually got done for attempted murder

AFAIK wtf would a member of the public need a firearm for outside of recreation, you certainly don't need one for pottering about on the m62?

Unless you actually know who your'e going to 'bump' [s]into[/s] off maybe?

AFAIK wtf would a member of the public need a firearm for outside of recreation, you certainly don't need one for pottering about on the m62?

Take with a massive pinch of salt....

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It's cheaper for us tax payers that they shot him, keeping him in prison is expensive, and we have 1 less gun carrying drug dealer of the streets, that's my call on it.

Take with a massive pinch of salt....

Tis a sad day when an office clerk can't carry a 9mm pistol, ammunition, and a silencer around the city without the police shooting him.

Overall I would be inclined to agree, however I have my suspicions that in this case there is at least a grain of truth to it so I posted it. No way for us to be sure, but I thought it might be of interest.

I'll refrain from posting more speculation at this point.

Dont people say 'I have my suspicions' when they actually have some first had information about the people involved? did you know him then?

I'll refrain from posting more speculation at this point.

Yes that would be nice.

>did you know him then?
Absolutely not.

I am merely weighting the post as of interest based on the number of reactions from the local community on FB and that's only because:

1 - A "secret" is something you tell to only one person.
2 - There's divisions within the community meaning information circulates in some quarters before others.

>Yes that would be nice.
Feel free to pull it.

Tis a sad day when an office clerk can't carry a 9mm pistol, ammunition, and a silencer around the city without the police shooting him.

His mistake was being in the Audi, made him look like an ordinary criminal. Had he been in the yellow Lambo the police would have understood how important he was and acted accordingly.

I have posted before how I think fear of being called racist and general tone of political correctness has made police work very difficult (eg Rotherham, Oxford sex abuse scandals) and we see the same here. Armed drug dealer shot and we get the "race card" played repeatedly.

There is nothing wrong with speculation, it is what it is. Sometimes it turns out to be false and sometimes it turns out to be true.

It's cheaper for us tax payers that they shot him, keeping him in prison is expensive, and we have 1 less gun carrying drug dealer of the streets, that's my call on it.

have you any idea what an IPCC investigation and coroners inquest (with Jury) will cost the public purse?

Weighing everything up in financial terms is an unending rabbit hole of what if's.

jambalaya - Member

I have posted before how I think fear of being called racist and general tone of political correctness has made police work very difficult (eg Rotherham, Oxford sex abuse scandals) and we see the same here. Armed drug dealer shot and we get the "race card" played repeatedly.

This is a good example of you ignoring the facts to suit your argument. There is no evidence that the race card has been played "repeatedly".

Here is an article specifically concerning how the solicitors for the family of Mohammed Yassar Yaqub are demanding answers from the police. Not once is race mentioned, never mind "repeatedly".

In fact if it wasn't for the names and the photos you could easily assume that it was about the death of a white British man.

[url= http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lawyers-family-man-shot-dead-9577681 ]Lawyers for family of man shot dead by police on M62 'demand answers' in controversial Facebook posts[/url]

I guess the only people allowed to question the actions of the police, according to you jambalaya, are white people. Otherwise they are playing the race card.

And why are you claiming that this case shows how political correctness has made police work "very difficult"? They apparently shot and killed him, how could it have been made easier without "political correctness"?

I have posted before how I think fear of being called racist and general tone of political correctness has made police work very difficult

Armed drug dealer shot and we get the "race card" played repeatedly.

I don't see race as an issue here tbh.

Happy to attempt to discuss it sensibly though if anyone would care to share?

Every place I've ever lived the criminals seem to reflect the demographic of the area.
You seem to get white drug dealers in predominantly white areas and Asian drug dealers in predominantly Asian areas etc.

Hardly surprising.

And apologies to Flashy too.
My response, written in sad anticipation, was uncalled for.
Sorry fella.

I don't see race as an issue here tbh.

Yes and no.

The police shooting was colour blind. Man with gun gets shot. Simple logic.

Response by local people of the same race? Very much racial. The protesters are blind to his current and previous crimes as he's a 'nice asian boy'. Their racial prejudices allow them to ignore the fact he's a career crim, with a history of gun offences.

ScottChegg

Response by local people of the same race? Very much racial. The protesters are blind to his current and previous crimes as he's a 'nice asian boy'. Their racial prejudices allow them to ignore the fact he's a career crim, with a history of gun offences.

They're not blind to, or ignoring anything. They'll be acutely aware of his criminality. Standard practice in Northern Ireland - the police arrest a paramilitary/drug dealer/drug dealing paramilitary the local hoods riot on some kind of sectarian discrimination premise. Particularly laughable and transparent when it was loyalist drug gangs using the term PSNIRA.

It allows gangsters to immediately reassert their presence and take control of their community and it allows lower ranking members to prove themselves.