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https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/1566515346227486722


 
Posted : 04/09/2022 10:45 pm
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Oof


 
Posted : 04/09/2022 10:58 pm
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Whoosh parrot is strong at the NRA
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Posted : 04/09/2022 11:13 pm
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Surprised no-one shot him.


 
Posted : 04/09/2022 11:43 pm
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And they say Americans don’t do sarcasm…


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 12:09 am
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And they say Americans don’t do sarcasm…

Oh they do, its just that precious few of them understand it 😂


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 12:18 am
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There's more than a few Gun totting Americans working on the ship with me.
For most of them the reason for owning guns is to make sure the government is too afraid to try and take the guns off them. There is a genuine sentiment of protecting themselves from a tyrant in the Whitehouse....


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 12:28 am
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For most of them the reason for owning guns is to make sure the government is too afraid to try and take the guns off them. There is a genuine sentiment of protecting themselves from a tyrant in the Whitehouse….

Crazy innit. I can't think of any country other than the United States where that isn't the least acceptable reason for owning a weapon.

Apart from the US all countries take a dim view of citizens who openly say they want to have weapons to fight the government, it invariably violates antiterrorism legislation.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 12:55 am
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For most of them the reason for owning guns is to make sure the government is too afraid to try and take the guns off them. There is a genuine sentiment of protecting themselves from a tyrant in the Whitehouse….

Isn't that the core reason for the 2nd Amendment in the first place?


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:28 am
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Said it before the USA is basically a third world country with electricity...

This is all you need to know to understand how it funtions - tribes, fiefdoms, States that operate like countries, Counties that operate like states, religious fundamentalism, segregation, and every mad **** has a gun.

I have worked there, worked for them and worked with them... the vast majority are unhinged.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:53 am
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I am married to one and I work with many. The vast majority are NOT unhinged. Please don't throw negative stereotypes around like that.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 2:32 am
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Spent ten years in the Midwest, West Texas, Georgia, Florida panhandle..... maybe i was overrun by demographics?

Spent no time east or west coast so probably less unhinged folks there.

My comment refers to religious, social, racist, guns etc and their views on these things. These people are not a minority (ref Trumps vote) they are a majority in the areas i was working in.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 3:04 am
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they are a majority in the areas in was working in

Yes.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 6:47 am
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I was just about to post this. Other countries have lots of guns, often just as many, but nowhere the same gun deaths.

Other countries with high levels of gun ownership also have equivalent 'successful' suicide levels...

"In 2016, firearm suicides in the United States of America represented 35.3% of global firearm suicides. Among central European countries, Switzerland has a high rate of suicide by shooting, particularly in men."

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0267817


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 8:36 am
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Spent ten years in the Midwest, West Texas, Georgia, Florida panhandle….. maybe i was overrun by demographics?

Spent no time east or west coast so probably less unhinged folks there.

My experience of working Midwest, South and East Coast is the same as yours.

It's beyond me though, and I've shot various types of guns my whole life (and have a licence in the UK etc), how they've decided that controlling ownership & use is something they're not really going to do.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 8:56 am
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The vast majority are NOT unhinged.

Whatever your personal experiences to claim that the "vast majority" of a nation is unhinged is pretty offensive.

There appears to be a widespread belief on here that there should be no limit to the level of insults directed at Americans. Years ago there used to be two or three regular STWers who lived in the United States, I suspect they eventually stopped posting because they found this place so unwelcoming.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 10:56 am
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I don't get it either. I think the likes of the NRA see it as the thin end of the wedge. You suggest a licensing scheme and the reaction is "OMG THEY'RE COMING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS!!1!"

Realistically though, the horse has bolted in the US. Even if you were to successfully implement "gun licences" akin to driving licences, it would take decades to catch up with current ownership and the people most needing control won't give two shits about any legislation. I'd hazard that you'd be far better off controlling the supply of ammunition.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 11:23 am
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There appears to be a widespread belief on here

Whatever your personal experiences, to claim that the “vast majority” of the forum insults Americans is pretty offensive.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 11:25 am
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Aye, Klunk... just about sums the whole thing up 😕😕


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 5:22 pm
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Apart from the US all countries take a dim view of citizens who openly say they want to have weapons to fight the government, it invariably violates antiterrorism legislation.

I reckon there should be a Xmas special every year where the Guns Rights crowd pick 10 folks and whatever weapons they can get and go head to head with 10* US marines and whatever they can bring to the party.

* well one US marine controlling a Reaper and 9 marines in the bar watching, obvs


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 5:29 pm
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@nickc

A great many would get steam rollered, the obsession the civilians, irrespective of nationality have with weapons, warfare/combat never ceases to amaze me.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 5:53 pm
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A great many would get steam rollered, the obsession the civilians, irrespective of nationality have with weapons, warfare/combat never ceases to amaze me.

Its the romance of war is the problem, and it can more than likely never be solved.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 6:00 pm
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The Onion is on it again.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 6:02 pm
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There were 51 school shootings in the United States last year, almost as many as weeks in the year.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/school-shootings-this-year-how-many-and-where/2022/01

How fearful must American parents be to see their children go off to school......."will it be their school this week?"


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 6:08 pm
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Sadly I fear this latest shooting will turn into an attack on the mental health of trans people and the righteous religious folks good battle with sin. Gun ownerships obvious (to the sane) relationship to what occurred might not even get a look in.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 6:11 pm
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How fearful must American parents be to see their children go off to school…….”will it be their school this week?”

We are. But a more pressing concern is finding out which parents own firearms and whether they keep them safe. Ultimately, it means that mini 10 isn't allowed to play at friends' houses until we know. Which is ****ing bullshit. We're in a Rep county, and they want to arm the teachers. Because, guns. ****s. I think it's been two mass shootings this week. I shit you not; some ****ing idiot lost their ****ing gun at a ski resort last week. Fell out of their pocket, and they didn't notice until they got home. A ski instructor found it in the middle of a green run. When you deal with this level of ****ing stupidity, it's not hard to see why these things happen. **** guns and ****s with guns.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 6:22 pm
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How fearful must American parents be to see their children go off to school…….”will it be their school this week?”

I understand now what many Americans want to home school.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 6:33 pm
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How fearful must American parents be to see their children go off to school…….”will it be their school this week?”

Cant be healthy for the kids either doing "active shooter" drills.

Does the little kid in that "Christmas" photo have a gun hidden in the box or is the bloke slightly in touch with reality and decided he was too young for his own gun.
I am also curious whether he is going to get camo wrapping for the rest of the rifle as a christmas present or if its going to stay a halfarsed job.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 6:40 pm
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I reckon there should be a Xmas special every year where the Guns Rights crowd pick 10 folks and whatever weapons they can get and go head to head with 10* US marines and whatever they can bring to the party.

this would need you to find marines willing to support gun control


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 6:52 pm
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While I share everyone’s incredulity at American gun culture, I can’t help but feel the genie’s out the bottle now and no amount of gun control is going to make much difference, the place is clearly awash with guns and the people who own them aren’t going to give them up.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 6:53 pm
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It will take a huge change in culture. Making it socially unacceptable would help drive that change, but that would need serious commitment and a message accepted by everyone that supports a sensible level of control. That is, IMHO, never going to happen, but it would go beyond politics and would make a change.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 7:00 pm
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This makes me feel awful but mass shootings in the US barely register with me anymore. That’s pretty scary. The fact I can basically shrug and move to reading the next news article is genuinely frightening. It’s an utterly ****ed up situation and I can’t see it changing in our lifetimes.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 7:05 pm
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I am also curious whether he is going to get camo wrapping for the rest of the rifle as a christmas present or if its going to stay a halfarsed job.

It's a suppressor shroud, designed to reduce the heat shimmer from the suppressor when firing and to prevent burns when you transition from rifle to side arm.

AKA as a cock sleeve when sported by douche bags like this.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 7:15 pm
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Here is some advice from Congressman Andy Ogles.

https://twitter.com/AndyOgles/status/1366103355731439617

Obviously he hasn't read everything in the bible otherwise he would have heard about the Christmas message of peace, and not instead associated the event with being heavily armed with lethal weapons.

Perhaps he doesn't believe that Christmas is important to Christians?

I am sure that it comes as no surprise that Congressman Andy Ogles is a far-right supporter of Donald Trump and claims that the current US president should be arrested for treason.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 8:28 pm
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It will take a huge change in culture.

But possibly not as big as you might imagine. Two thirds of Americans don't own guns and the majority of households don't have any guns at all.

I reckon that vested interests and lack of political will is probably the biggest obstacle.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 8:35 pm
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@ernielynch - dunno what message you’re getting, but I read that as Ogles saying to the Nat-C’s, who are the ones ranting about Libs being ‘Woke’ and destroying ‘Mur’kkka, that if you’re claiming to be a Christian and following Christ’s teachings, then you are, by definition, ‘Woke’.

I have no idea who he is, tbh.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 9:02 pm
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this would need you to find marines willing to support gun control

Not unheard of. I'd imagine they have a better handle on the reality of gun use and the effectiveness of civilian militias.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 9:24 pm
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I have no idea who he is, tbh.

The representative for the district where the shooting happened.
As for it not being Christian dont people remember the famous passage about the attempted arrest of Jesus?

"When Jesus' followers saw what was going to happen, they said, "Lord, should we strike with our swords?" And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear. But Jesus answered, "No more of this!. Why are you messing around with swords when as the son of God I have brought back M-4s. Lol the disciples riddled the soldiers with bullets and called down a drone strike on the legionary camp before entering Jerusalem through the city wall in an M1 Abrams ".


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 10:26 pm
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Kids getting rearranged by AR15s just represents acceptable losses to a critical component of the US electorate, and therefore to a significant part of the political establishment. They appear to have made their decision - as has been said before, if nothing changed after Sandy Hook, nothing will prompt change, not Uvalde, not the latest event.

Perhaps it would be more honest to move on from being 'heartbroken' and offering 'thoughts and prayers', and just state openly that it's the price of doing business.


 
Posted : 28/03/2023 10:33 pm
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The onion have dusted off their sadly over used template to sum it up perfectly again.


 
Posted : 29/03/2023 12:34 am
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A great many would get steam rollered, the obsession the civilians, irrespective of nationality have with weapons, warfare/combat never ceases to amaze me.

Tactical shizzle sells units to muppets (the article is fairly depressing):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-america-gun-culture-politics/


 
Posted : 29/03/2023 3:30 pm
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Nice to see the usual ‘thoughts and prayers’ making their regular appearance. Where on earth would we be without them?

When it comes to the availability of guns, all you have to do is ask absolutely anyone to imagine some of the complete headcases they've known over the course of their lives, then ask them how they'd feel about them having easy access to assault rifles with enough ammo to fuel a genocide?

I bet we can all think of at least of couple of people who would definitely have carried out a mass shooting if they had access to the means with which to do it. At least in this country they mainly have to be content with glassing people in pubs and having fights outside kebab houses at 3am


 
Posted : 29/03/2023 3:39 pm
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Local Nashville congressman Andy Ogles claims that the right to bear arms is essential to "prevent tyrannical rule".

So its good to hear that a senior mainstream politician is armed and ready to wage civil war against the United States government if necessary.

In most countries that would be classed as terrorism and left to deranged individuals on the political fringes.

https://news.sky.com/story/nashville-politician-andy-ogles-defends-photo-of-him-and-his-family-brandishing-guns-12844453


 
Posted : 29/03/2023 5:03 pm
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When it comes to the availability of guns, all you have to do is ask absolutely anyone to imagine some of the complete headcases they’ve known over the course of their lives

To be fair, I only have to imagine the devastation that would ensue, if I had access to a firearm, every time I visit a supermarket. The fact that I can't get my hands on a gun when life annoys me is a very good thing.


 
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