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I'm sat outside a local MOT place waiting for my colleague who is dropping his car here to turn give him a lift to work.
He's just sent me a text message to say he'll be 5 minutes late, well we're already nearly 10 past our arranged time.
I don't even like the bloke that much, I'm tempted to just **** off so I'm not late in. 🤬
First world problems, I know. Weave me tales of your annoying colleagues to improve my temper.
just tell them to get lost and sort their own thin
I should have done when he asked, but that's not really my style. Could have ridden my bike in too today as the weather is lovely, that won't help improve my mood!
Don't get angry.. you know they don't value your time or effort now, so lesson learned.. No more favours for them?
are you giving him a lift back this evening?
Got any errands you could run on the way?
are you giving him a lift back this evening?
He's not asked yet...
oooh...this has potential... 🤣
Drives me mad when people are late. And the type of person who's late is usually ALWAYS late. Its telling you that your time is of no consequence to them
Give him the Bobby Robson quote for when players were late for training (which meant they would be immediately dropped for the next match and fined)....
"To be early is to be on time, to be on time is to be late and to be late is totally unacceptable!"
Be more German there's; early, on time and late. There is no "only a little late". No you're late.
He's in the MOT place, its taking 5 or so minutes than planned and you're surprised?
You work from home normally?
I've cut several friends loose over this, over the years...
I honestly don't mind at all if someone is late for a decent reason, or even if they tell me they will be late by 30 mins and invent a reason... as long as I know...when you actually intend on arriving.
I find it highly offensive to be stood around like a lemon though.. I absolutley don't and won't tollerate flakiness of that kind.
For me it's a simple matter of a total lack of respect for other peoples time.
Too busy doing your hair or having an existential crisis? no problem... but let me know!
Drives me mad when people are late. And the type of person who's late is usually ALWAYS late. Its telling you that your time is of no consequence to them
Not always. Some people are just not fussed about exact timings and timings are always just estimates.
I hate being late and like the OP it’s really annoying when you make arrangements as a favour and they take a relaxed approach to time. It can also be very annoying if people are very early so I try and moderate my desire to be prompt. I once offered a lift to a guy I didn’t really like who was going to be dropped off by his wife at 7.30 am to take him to work with me. My partner got a fright when she opened the kitchen curtains at 6.50 am to find him peering in at her from the back garden….
I’ve recently gone back to the office and there’s a new guy on the other side of the partition who’s a keen gravelista. He heard about my commute and asked if I could show him the ‘secret’ tunnel under the motorway to get to an area he’s never been to. He said he’d ride into work and do a long (60km) commute home via my route (30km).
I typically ride this stuff at recovery pace on my HT in MTB gear, but he’s in Lycra on a gravel bike so of course it means we’re going 2kmph faster than my normal average.
We’ve done it twice now and Strava tells me I’m pushing way harder than usual. I’m going to have to start making excuses to avoid having to go so fast all the time 🤣
I've cut several friends loose over this, over the years...
I honestly don't mind at all if someone is late for a decent reason, or even if they tell me they will be late by 30 mins and invent a reason... as long as I know...
I find it highly offensive to be stood around like a lemon though.. I absolutley don't and won't tollerate flakiness of that kind.
For me it's a simple matter of a total lack of respect for other peoples time.
Too busy doing your hair or having an existentiall crisis? no problem... but let me know!
Write him an MoT fail complete with advisories
Write him an MoT fail complete with advisories
A fake one, failing him for poor time keeping sounds like an excellent use of AI computing power. 😁
The upside is that you now have a solid gold excuse for not giving him a lift again.
We used to ride with a person who phone up when already late and say they were five minutes away.
This meant that they had just left home.
They would eventually turn up very late.
One day we got the five minutes phone call and just went riding without them.
Anybody can be late given traffic etc but when it’s regular it’s just plain rude.
Some people are just not fussed about exact timings and timings are always just estimates.
Which would make you think they are often early too... bet they're not
Drives me mad when people are late. And the type of person who's late is usually ALWAYS late. Its telling you that your time is of no consequence to them
Not always. Some people are just not fussed about exact timings and timings are always just estimates.
Sure if you agree to meet for a pint at 6, and if you rock up at 6:15 not a problem, I don't care. But if it comes to 7 and you've not bothered to let me know... that's basically friendship over.
Some people are just not fussed about exact timings and timings are always just estimates.
And that's fine if that's your thing, but I'm certainly not going to be committing any of my time to anyone with that mindset. I doubt many other people would do either, at least not more than once
I doubt many other people would do either, at least not more than once
my best mate is someone who tells you he'll be round in 20 minutes and turns up an hour and a half later. It's mildly annoying but he's been a mate since forever, I'm not going to be standing there with a clipboard tapping my watch, I can get on with other stuff
We used to ride with a person who phone up when already late and say they were five minutes away.
This meant that they had just left home.
They would eventually turn up very late.
One day we got the five minutes phone call and just went riding without them.
Anybody can be late given traffic etc but when it’s regular it’s just plain rude.
This is hora.
I doubt many other people would do either, at least not more than once
my best mate is someone who tells you he'll be round in 20 minutes and turns up an hour and a half later. It's mildly annoying but he's been a mate since forever, I'm not going to be standing there with a clipboard tapping my watch, I can get on with other stuff
I have family members like that.
The issue however is that it continues to be a pain the arse.
Things like pick up time when we childmind can extend a couple of hours, right across when we would be preparing or even eating an evening meal. It can mean that when family gatherings happen we have all sat and had breakfast in the agreed cafe at the agreed time, and are all heading out for a walk when they rock up and ask everyone to wait so they can have breakfast. Travel is almost impossible, and when public transport is used it can often end up with a phone call to rescue them as they missed the last bus.
I find it deeply disrespectful and difficult to deal with.
This is hora.
If you were lucky. There's always just as much chance of a complete no-show, with no explanation given.
That'll be the reason I've not seen him for years. You only put up with it for so long before you cut your losses
We've discussed this before, but I have a literal approach to time. You tell me to meet at 7, I'll be there at 6:59. If you want me to be 15 minutes early then don't tell me 7, tell me 6:45 rather than expecting scheduling via crystal ball. I have a reputation for being late but it's unjustified, I cut it fine but I'm never late. If you've got nothing better to do than stand around waiting because you've rocked up quarter of an hour early then that's your own lookout I'm afraid. I have friends who I swear do this deliberately, I arrive exactly on time and then they fanny about for ten minutes knowing full well I'll cop the blame for it at the other end.
My partner is the diametric opposite. Her logic is "well, this will take 15 minutes, so I'll allow half an hour..." at every step of the journey so left to her own devices she could be a day early for a haircut. Going somewhere, she'll be downstairs with her coat on whilst I'm in my underpants thinking I should probably start getting washed in a minute. We probably both make each other worse.
A former girlfriend's dad was ex military (US Army), his favourite mantra was "if you're not ten minutes early, you're late." Well if you're ten minutes early then you're a pain in the ass because I won't be ready for you, and you're going to be standing there like a **** for nine of them.
I think fundamentally I have a pathological hatred for waiting. It's such a monumental waste of time.
Cougar - I love you dearly, but if I was married to you I'd have murdered you by now. That would drive me mad.
One of the reasons myself and Mrs Binners get on so well is that we're both the 15-minutes-early (possibly 30 for important stuff) types you've just described. Its because there's no way either of us can cope with the anxiety-inducing thought of not having at least a 15 minute buffer for potential issues... meteor strikes, plagues of locusts, alien invasions, plane crashes, that kind of thing
My partner is the diametric opposite. Her logic is "well, this will take 15 minutes, so I'll allow half an hour..." at every step of the journey so left to her own devices she could be a day early for a haircut.
My wife is like this. We ride/rode with a guy who is pathologically late for everything, makes it part of his personality and laughs about it. Yet my wife still insisted on being early. I’ve spent countless hours in trailcentre car parks being caught int the middle of these fun personality quirks.
I once didn't get a job because I turned up early - it was pissing down and I was on public transport so just came into the office to keep dry and said to the receptionist I know I'm half an hour early can I just sit in the corner - but she called the guy who was interviewing who started with a speech about how if I worked for them I couldn't be inconsiderate and turn up early, and how important HIS time was.
Since then, I've been much more likely to be late! For anyone who wastes their time posting on here to rant about the value of time is ironic!
Part of my job is meeting people on site, waiting around for them to show up is par for the couse, so I shrug it off, but do it to me twice & that's the end of any give & take on that job, plus I do a very good "being shirty with people"
The upside is that you now have a solid gold excuse for not giving him a lift again.
He already had one - "Sorry I'm riding in" - no-one would ask me for a lift cos they know I ride in. Plus I'm a **** so they know I would say no anyway 🤣
You do know not being on time is very much a trait of someone having ADHD ? My son does it. Be here between 1pm and 2pm. Give him an hour. Nope, arrives at 3pm. The rest of us in the house are usually early, just in case. Son, nope I can get there by X time - leaves at 10 minutes to X, and it's 10 miles away.
Be more German there's; early, on time and late. There is no "only a little late". No you're late.
Be less German, their trains are never punctual!
My wife is like this. We ride/rode with a guy who is pathologically late for everything, makes it part of his personality and laughs about it. Yet my wife still insisted on being early. I’ve spent countless hours in trailcentre car parks being caught int the middle of these fun personality quirks.
The mistake you're making here is pandering to this shit. Clocks exist, don't be one of those knuckles who sets their clocks 8 minutes fast like it makes the blindest bit of difference to anything when you know it's 8 minutes fast. You can't make a towel longer by cutting three inches off the bottom to stitch it back onto the top.
One of the reasons myself and Mrs Binners get on so well is that we're both the 15-minutes-early (possibly 30 for important stuff) types you've just described. Its because there's no way either of us can cope with the anxiety-inducing thought of not having at least a 15 minute buffer for potential issues... meteor strikes, plagues of locusts, alien invasions, plane crashes, that kind of thing
But that's the thing, if there's a likelihood of a zombie uprising then I'll factor that in. I don't naively think "oh it's only 15 minutes away" and then get stuck in traffic. I'm not late, I'm just not standing in a car park for half an hour either.
In Tom's example above, if we're meeting at 7 and Perpetually Late Steve™ arrives at 7:05 then he'll just have to catch us up. If I arrived at 7:05 without any form of communication that there was a delay then I would fully expect the others to have left without me.
And that's fine if that's your thing, but I'm certainly not going to be committing any of my time to anyone with that mindset.
I have a feeling they would get over it.
I have colleagues that are always later. Some of them are late because they are always busy and people forgive them for being late because they do more than their fair share of everything. Others are late because they can’t get their shit together. That annoys people until sometimes they find out what they are dealing with in their lives… which can sometimes be serious stuff that puts being on time/late into perspective.
Some colleagues are always on time… but then sit in meetings and don’t say anything and that annoys others more than the ones that are late but contribute and offer to do stuff.
I try to be on time and mostly am… but it’s not something that comes naturally to me and sometimes stuff happens. Planning complex journeys ( I try not to use a car for work wherever possible) and having lots of work and other commitments means that sometimes I am late.
I used to live and work in the Dominican Republic, a place where there was a different concept of time and being on time or late. I quite liked it.
I used to give a guy a lift to work - he didnt drive. 112 mile round trip, 5 days a week.
He lived pretty close to me, so i would turn up in the morning and he would see the car and come out.
First time he didnt come out. I went to his door and he'd slept in - late for work.
2nd time, i told him if he isnt out with 5 mins of me arriving, Im leaving without him, He thought i was over reacting.
third time, he had to phone in and take a days holiday.
A former girlfriend's dad was ex military (US Army), his favourite mantra was "if you're not ten minutes early, you're late." Well if you're ten minutes early then you're a pain in the ass because I won't be ready for you, and you're going to be standing there like a **** for nine of them.
I would much rather be early for something and spend 10 minutes waiting than running around late and stressing.
I can sit in an airport for 2hrs quite happily. A friend of mine is the opposite; her idea of airport times is arriving as the plane starts taxiing. We do not travel well together at all.
On the subject of timekeeping one of the shitty jobs I did before retirement was for Sainsbury's. Interviewer said " As long as you turn up on time you'll be fine"
I was puzzled, she said I take it you haven't been for an interview in a while , most applicants we see now take the start time just as a guide , 8 am is maybe an aspiration not necessarily fixed , 5 or 10 minutes after is acceptable ( to them) 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Some people are just not fussed about exact timings and timings are always just estimates.
Those people are either children (forgivable) or immature and selfish adults with no concern for others.
Has his car passed it's MOT!?
Yes. I use the same garage, they seem quite reluctant to fail anything!
Have you taken him to pick it up!?
As expected he came to ask 1 minute before he had to leave to pick it up. I don't know who gave him a lift, because it wasn't me! And the fat knacker certainly wouldn't have run round the corner.
I have a feeling they would get over it.
Given their lazy and selfish lack of consideration in keeping other people waiting around for them, I’d imagine they, like… let most things slide…. maaaaan, yeah? ✌️
He's in the MOT place, its taking 5 or so minutes than planned and you're surprised?
You work from home normally?
Having just read the original post, the OP is sat outside the MoT building, waiting for the colleague to arrive, who’s already 10 minutes late, and likely to be a further 5 minutes late, if not more.
Should go to Specsavers…
So not a colleague thing but how about this for a total lack of consideration.
A bit of back ground. Mrs Ampthill use to run a dog walking business. Eventually she bought 20 tags with her name and number so that every dog in her care had her number. Dogs she looked after every week tended to have to tags left on.
Today she got the “Your dogs in my back garden call”. “No, that’s a dog that i use to look after, 3 years ago!” . She phoned the dogs owner to let her know where dog was and reminded her to remove the tag. She politely pointed out that exactly the same thing happened a year ago, but at 3 in the morning!”