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Anyone tried wiki this morning?
It's on a blackout, I just followed that Scott link on the Bowers thread...
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It should be noted that SOPA looks like it has been nuked from orbit, but Protect IP is still in the works.
Do you have permission to post that, Jamie? 🙁
The only 'impact' will be that students can't copy and paste from wikipedia for their essays. Other than that, for the sake of a few hours, who gives a monkeys.
It's not so much the withdrawal of the resource, it's the reason for it, at first I thought it was a bit draconian, it also highlights that what we have come to regard as a part of life is still able to be withdrawn on the whim of one person.
So all that work by all those people can be withdrawn if something pisses the man off, does in itself seem a bit bizarre.
Like closing public libraries because the council don't agree with something that may or may not be going through parliament.
If you need it it's all still there, just "View Page Source" (In FF) and you can see the page with all the HTML and ting.
just hit 'escape' as soon as the page loads and before it switches to the blackout view if you're desparate to plagarise soemthign for your homework/work today.
wwaswas - Member
if you're desparate to plagarise soemthign for your homework today
Er how old do I come across as?
In fact how old are you then?
Not generally that I'm particularly ageist but I do sometimes wonder what the average age is here..
I think you might have missed the point of the sopa and pipa bills slightly,they are the reason for the blackout of not just wikipedia, its nothing to do with students not being able to do their homework its to do with the american government trying to pass a bill that will give them the power to put up a firewall like China's effectively censoring the internet for U.S. citizens, now im not an american but if it goes through and at some point it will in some form, the americans will grab Cameron, put him back in his gimp suit and tell him to do the same, the sopa and pipa bills threaten any website which is deemed to be breaching copy right no matter how small with instant removal from the web with out due process or right of appeal,
iPhone app still works.
you could just turn javascript off in your browser.
Use the Google cache if you really need to view the page.
Please won't somebody think of the [s]children[/s] TJ.
the sopa and pipa bills threaten any website which is deemed to be breaching [b]copy right no matter how small with instant removal from the web with out due process or right of appeal[/b],
So, does this mean that the US govt can close down sites that contain controversial original material?
So, does this mean that the US govt can close down sites that contain controversial original material?
Isn't STW hosted stateside?
don simon - Member
the sopa and pipa bills threaten any website which is deemed to be breaching copy right no matter how small with instant removal from the web with out due process or right of appeal,So, does this mean that the US govt can close down sites that contain controversial original material?
You'd think they invented the web the way they carry on..
"and what was over there... is over here..."
George Michael - Praying For Time
Excellent, that's answered that question. 🙄 In a typical STW manner... 😆
Are there more sites going "black"?
Only ones I can current access are STW and Pistonheads ❓
Reddit and Boing Boing are going to black out aswell.
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derekrides - why did you remove the '/work' from what I'd typed when you quoted it?
[i]Er how old do I come across as?[/i]
very selective quoting to support a nonsense argument = early teens?
[i]In fact how old are you then?[/i]
45
Oh noez! My memes!
....only for 12 hours though.
Reddit is my life as a student 😆
wwaswas - Member
derekrides - why did you remove the '/work' from what I'd typed when you quoted it?Er how old do I come across as?
very selective quoting to support a nonsense argument = early teens?
In fact how old are you then?
45
Cool. Aren't you a bit old to be posting on a forum like this, can you still ride a bike?
Flickr has a voluntary blackout
[i]Aren't you a bit old to be posting on a forum like this[/i]
45 and work in IT - I'd say I was pretty much bang on for demographic of stw
[i]can you still ride a bike?[/i]
I'm not sure I ever could, really.
the only websites that by shutting down for X amount of hours would have an impact and draw attention to the bill would be facebook and twitter at the same time.
Wikipedia is the 6th biggest website in the world, so it's not insignificant Phil.
Saying that, Twitter [url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jan/16/wikipedia-sopa-blackout-slammed-twitter ]is not going down anytime soon[/url]...well apart from the usual outages.
i'm not doubting wiki's significance, i just think that facebook and twitter would have a bigger impact 🙂
EDIT, wouldn't america censoring the internet go against its own obsession with free speech?
I dunno, I am not on Facebook, so it vanishing would have little impact on me.
EDIT, wouldn't america censoring the internet go against its own obsession with free speech?
This is my point, it's not censorship, is it? It's the prevention of copyright theft. You can introduce any controversial topic you want under free speech rules. What you can't do is copy this work without permission.
So it is nowhere near the likes of China.
equally, i'm not on wikki 😛
facebook and twitter are pretty much built into phones nowadays so the reach would be wider than those accessing a PC/laptop to go search wikki
the only websites that by shutting down for X amount of hours would have an impact and draw attention to the bill would be facebook and twitter at the same time.
Actually I'd say wiki, reddit and a few others that are are fairly influential, maybe not to the adults amongst us, but to the teens and early 20's - probably those most likely to kick up a fuss about internet freedoms.
This is my point, it's not censorship, is it? It's the prevention of copyright theft. You can introduce any controversial topic you want under free speech rules. What you can't do is copy this work without permission.
So it is nowhere near the likes of China.
Thing is, it's the way the SOPA laws are written that people are pissed off about. Not what they're intended to prevent. This is the problem with having people with no idea how the internet works (it's a series of tubes, right?) in charge of drafting laws that affect the internet.
coffeeking... point well made 🙂
Don't cry, disney own the rights to that emotion
No need for particularly awkward antics - just add "?banner=none" to the end of the Wiki URL.
No problems [url= http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool ]here,[/url] opens right up.
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A few others that I'm aware of,
The Oatmeal, in their inimitable style,
http://www.theoatmeal.com/sopa
Cyanide & Happiness
http://www.explosm.net/sopa.html
Schlock Mercenary('s blog):
http://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/content-blocked-sopa-pipa
Saturday Morning Breakfast Comic:
http://www.smbc-comics.com/
Dinosaur comics:
http://www.qwantz.com/index.php
XKCD:
http://www.xkcd.com/
There's a nice one-page overview of SOPA et al [url= https://www.eff.org/sites/default/files/One-Page-SOPA_0.pdf ]here[/url], btw (pdf).
derekrides - MemberEr how old do I come across as?
In fact how old are you then?
Not generally that I'm particularly ageist but I do sometimes wonder what the average age is here..
PMSL sometime you wonder, clearly there are a lot of younger folk who still havnt realised that they actually know the square root of **** all. I think the average actual age is 28 the average internet age is about 12!!
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Boingboing have been running a crusade against this for months.
A point that's being missed is that not only could sites be closed down, but, because of the demands of the big American media groups behind this, and the insane extradition laws that Blair/Brown signed us up to,
people can be extradited and jailed for something that isn't illegal in Europe, like Richard O'Dwyer, who is being extradited for online piracy over his TVShack site, that just linked to other sites deemed to be infringing by the Yanks.
Our courts are backing this, despite no law being broken in the UK.
These laws are almost Stalinist in their intention, and it's Hollywood and big money behind it.
Anyone who thinks the Yanks are fairly benign with this needs to extract his head from where it's been firmly shoved up his ass and look at what this could imply for many people outside of the borders of the US.
The reason Wiki is taking part is it is a useful and educational site that has real value.
Facebook and twitter are just full of rubbish.