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Got one living in our holiday cottage next door for the week. Paying a fair wedge so I'm restraining my normal balshy self for financial gain. Quite a cathartic experience not being an opinionated knob actually, and wearing a mask makes inappropriate smiles a lot easier.
The brief was to remove all wifi products from the house before they arrived as they make his son seriously ill in minutes. And we had to verify that we did not have a smart meter before he booked. He is livid that our house next door has a 4G aerial for our broadband and did not know beforehand.
Apparently.....the EMF waves from man made devices interfere with the natural EMF emitted by trees. The waves forms are different and cancel each other out. And this is the reasons that there is a secret plot to cut down the trees so that 5G can be installed. Oh, and that it can be statistically proved that the installing of wifi and 5G in hospitals has impacted on patients getting more ill rather than less ill when they go to hospital.
Normally I'd have brought up covid/vaccines for shits and giggles but, you know, my current account.
Some people make playing at life very hard for themselves.
“No no.. that’s not a 4g aerial it’s a homing beacon pointing at Mars”
Are you charging extra for the removal of emf emitters and de-ionisation of the property???
Did they book online?
Did they book online?
Oh yes, and a tesco online delivery just arrived......
To be fair - he uses a brick phone and at home he has a router with the wifi turned off plugged into his laptop with a cable.
It would be hard to get as well 'informed' as he is without the internet....obvs.
You should've left a wifi router plugged in hidden under the beds
The anti-science phenomenon, what a time to be alive.
You should have a look at the crap put in the RF spectrum from an Ethernet port, never mind what a FTTC/VDSL2 line can put out.
Ethernet - gazillions of Google refs
VDSL2 - https://rsgb.org/main/technical/emc/vdsl-interference-reporting/
Did you include a foil blanket in the welcome pack?
I would have just said no, that's ridiculous.
I bet they complain about many other things during their stay.
I would have just said no, that’s ridiculous.
I bet they complain about many other things during their stay
We do regret it to be honest
We'd just made it available but had a few days without takers when they enquired. We are now full every week until end of Sep so in hindsight should have told them to jog on.
But I am using it to focus my mindfulness and inner peace. It must be all the natural, good, emf coming off the trees around here.
he uses a brick phone and at home he has a router with the wifi turned off plugged into his laptop with a cable.
but but but how does he shield the computer and router sufficiently to make sure its safe?
Also do they use a microwave etc?
There are a couple of locations in the USA centred around a military research lab and a civilian observatory which has insanely strict laws on any emissions and so attracts all the true nutters. I do have to kinda admire those who actually really manage to live by their beliefs and restrict everything to sufficient levels to live round those areas.
Did you check if their car has parking sensors, an alarm or adaptive cruise control?
Or one of those plipper thingies to unlock the car...
There are millions of ignorant people on the planet, you don't have to be responsible for 'convert'ing all of them...
They’re harmless nutters though, aren’t they?
Currently, we have anti-vax morons prolonging the pandemic and right wing clowns threatening democracy. In comparison, your people seem quite unassuming.
He is livid that our house next door has a 4G aerial for our broadband and did not know beforehand.
I think you missed an opportunity to get the remote controlled car out in the garden. Nothing would be more satisfying then to be seen swanning about with a big controller and 4' aerial.
He’s totally obsessed with EMF?
Unbelievable.
He has indeed burdened me with his questions, and I don't think he has listened to my replies.
The thinks he says!
He’s totally obsessed with EMF?
Unbelievable.
Better than being obsessed with KLF.
Aha, aha.
They’re harmless nutters though, aren’t they?
I watched a documentary on Netflix a while ago about flat earthers. It was both amusing in a ‘haha look what these people believe’ kind of way, and interesting in exploring what they got out of their beliefs (in general I think it was essentially a sense of importance and belonging from a community).
The last point the doc made was that yes it’s all pretty funny with these people because really what difference does it make, but actually if people will believe against all evidence (including that provided by their own experiments) that the earth is flat, what else will they believe? Climate change is a hoax? Vaccines are developed purely for big pharma profits?
it can be statistically proved that the installing of wifi and 5G in hospitals has impacted on patients getting more ill rather than less ill when they go to hospital.
I don't know about the 5G thing, but getting admitted to hospital is strongly correlated with bad outcomes. Your chances of recovery are better if the doctor sends you home and tells you to just take it easy for a few days.
I don’t know about the 5G thing, but getting admitted to hospital is strongly correlated with bad outcomes. Your chances of recovery are better if the doctor sends you home and tells you to just take it easy for a few days.
That was not the thrust of his 'information download' (it was not a discussion as that would involve me inputting). It was that since the introduction of wifi and now 5G masts into hospital grounds (is 5G masts in hospital grounds a thing yet? No idea) it can be proven that patients are now getting more unwell spending time in hospital when previously the same patients would have got better. And that once 5G was present in every hospital his son would no longer be able to receive medical assistance. That last bit is where the 'just a harmless nutter' comment above starts to fall down.
I don’t know about the 5G thing, but getting admitted to hospital is strongly correlated with bad outcomes. Your chances of recovery are better if the doctor sends you home and tells you to just take it easy for a few days.
That is very close to a talk an ICU doctor gave me. We are in a hospital where only the sickest people come, and we are in the ward where only the sickest people in hospital come. So bearing that in mind your X only has at best a 50% chance of survival. X did pull through in end but it was very sobering first visit.
The ward did have WiFi, no mobile coverage though.
it can be statistically proved that the installing of wifi and 5G in hospitals has impacted on patients getting more ill rather than less ill when they go to hospital.
...it can be proved that there is a correlation not a causation. Jeez. Take the guy's money and leave a router under his bed 😉
I have to say that hospital wifi is *superb* these days. Gone are the bloody awful TV things dangling from the wall replaced by good ol' virgin wifi. Does it mean people stay in bed more, denying themselves of a modicum of exercise? Perhaps. Doubt the NHS has had time to analyse any effects.
That is very close to a talk an ICU doctor gave me.
Yup. I "qualified" for icu during my Covid stay this year. I was handled by the icu outreach team rather than actually admitted into icu, and one of the nurses commented that it would be better for me to stay out.
Given I was the only mobile patient in a ward of about 40-50, many of whom I would suspect never made it out or who will have life ending complications, and icu is the next level of that, I consider myself fortunate.
He’s totally obsessed with EMF?
Unbelievable.
Well played.
I suppose they are, if you'll pardon the oblique pun, ahead of the curve compared to most conspiracy quarterwits in acknowledging that background radiation exist. That's usually a good opening counter.
I feel a bit sorry for the kid though, what sort of life must that be? Reckon I'd get an old vitamin bottle, re-label it "anti-radiation pills", fill it wit Smarties and give it to him.
it can be statistically proved that the installing of wifi and 5G in hospitals has impacted on patients getting more ill rather than less ill when they go to hospital.
It's actually possible that better wifi correlates with more modern equipment and better diagnosis. If that's the case then there is more chance of seriously ill people being admitted and less seriously ill people being treated as outpatients. There are all sorts of potential confounding variables, assuming that there actually is a correlation.
Convert please tell me your cottage is in Devon or some other Radon hotspot. They've picked a bad week as well given the solar radiation forecast.
it can be statistically proved that the installing of wifi and 5G in hospitals has impacted on patients getting more ill rather than less ill when they go to hospital.
Just like it can be proven that increased cheese consumption leads to more people dying from being tangled in bedspreads.
https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
why would you do that?
Well, just thinking of the response as they leave, after a presumably incident-free holiday, when it’s casually dropped into the conversation that a wifi router had been forgotten and left on in a corner of the property where you don’t normally go.
I remember seeing something on telly about a portable phone mast being set up outside a student lodging house, clearly marked as to what it was, and a questionnaire left to gauge any response to it.
Lots of reports about problems sleeping, headaches, rashes, etc. So the next week, it was turned on, and the students informed otherwise. No ill-effects were reported that week…
I saw that prog too, they found an old hall in a mobile not spot, setup a trailer mast in the front, and as you said had it off when they said it was on and vice versa. I recall one person had to be seen by a doctor and taken off site in the first week.
Oh and they do regular tests on EMF from masts, more here https://www.ofcom.org.uk/manage-your-licence/radiocommunication-licences/mobile-wireless-broadband/exposure-electro-magnetic-fields
As an amateur radio licence holder, OFCOM have recently issued a variation on my licence and I'll have to do assessments on EMF for my transmitters/antenna. In relation to international guidelines
I had some friends that were completely convinced that they were affected by wifi. They asked me about it because I was knowledgeable but didn't like my replies because I obviously didn't know enough. They often asked for wifi to be switched off when they were around so I did so they felt better, even though there were over 40 other stations still transmitting round about
Some people are just stressed out by modern life and the sheer amount of stuff they know nothing about any more :(. It's easy to attach that stress to something. Governments aren't helping by being untrustworthy and serving their pals most of the time so it's easy to believe you are being lied to because quite often you are
Whilst you're all laughing this is taken seriously in France. Some people are recognised as being sensitive with medical diagnosis.
The guy might be one of the small number of people who genuinely suffers even if his explanations seem a little odd.
I don't don't suffer but I'm not in the habit of sticking my head in a micro-wave either and wouldn't buy a house with high tension wires running overhead or a transmitter at the end of the garden if only because I like listening to the radio.
buy a house with high tension wires running overhead
Looked at a place in Italy with the view to letting it. Old stone house not far from Volterra. Pictures looked awesome. Beautiful views.
Got there and there were pylons with buzzing power lines about 50m from the house.
Needless to say I don't have a house in Italy.
Would have been a nightmare for the OP's guest.
Whilst you’re all laughing this is taken seriously in France. Some people are recognised as being sensitive with medical diagnosis.
every person in that link is a mentalist, and none of it is anywhere near a recognised diagnosis
life expectancy has gone up since the EF spectrum has been flooded with wifi-G
life expectancy has gone up since the EF spectrum has been flooded with wifi-G
But all the records for longevity are held by people who lived in wifi-free environments as children.
Just like it can be proven that increased cheese consumption leads to more people dying from being tangled in bedspreads.
That’s why I always insist on any holiday rental I use to be completely cheese-free.