In case I have been misinterpreted, it seems right to me that messages from mods are anonymous, as otherwise it just turns into another bun fight...when you get a warning/ban you feel is unfair you can't help but argue against it.
FWIW I appreciate the jobs the mods do, it's thankless but necessary.
But like anyone when I get a warning/ban I feel is unfair, or am warned/banned when other doing the same aren't, it tends to wind me up, but I do try and walk away.
No-one posted this yet?
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Understand the anonymous thing 100% but does it really help the peace'n'love'n'stuff when mods/owners start gloating on twitter about bans/posts etc 😕
I'm not sure that bans mean much to be honest...
I was banned last year for 'swear filter avoidance' (ie I added the astrixes myself).
However I see other regular posters committing the same henious crime with impunity.
I'm assuming it depends on who you are.
Do they actually do the twitter stuff mentioned above?
I thought they did over fred but do they do it regularily?
I only have to look at my own inbox to get an idea of what would happen if moderation was not anonymous. If I was a volunteer and it resulted in the abuse that get to read from my own inbox then I'd not be a volunteer for long.I've learned to ignore (actually laughing at it is a good way of dealing with it) the really awful stuff that gets sent our way, but then I work here so I get paid to deal with it.
I will pay extra to my premier account to read them if that helps
wrecker my e-mail is in profile name names
I can guess from your clue but knowledge is power and all that
Ps shameful to moan at a mod I would not do it on a ride ...I have ridden with people I dislike more than mods and I am not sitting at the back with the slowcoaches to chat with them 😈
I was banned last year for 'swear filter avoidance' (ie I added the astrixes myself).
yes me to for substituting the ss in piss for the number 5 even though you can type the word piss
I pointed out that this was rather harsh
Understand the anonymous thing 100% but does it really help the peace'n'love'n'stuff when mods/owners start gloating on twitter about bans/posts etc
+1
Although as Al said, it is a thankless task. Interestingly, a strategy might be to allow repeat offenders to take a role in moderating; this type of restorative justice works well in school-based forums, and helps to develop an empathy amongst habitual 'offenders' with the regular moderators.
It would require a leap of faith though...
I've learned to ignore (actually laughing at it is a good way of dealing with it) the really awful stuff that gets sent our way, but then I work here so I get paid to deal with it.
Blimey. I've never thought to get upset with the moderators. Name and shame I say.
It would require a leap of faith though...
Oo Oo Oooo Pick me, pick me!
It would require a leap of faith though...
Brilliant! Give Fred the job. I'd buy that for a dollar. 😀
I am happy to take part in the experiment suggested by Bullheart
E-mail in profile ..perhaps TJ and i can waste our time arguing over who deserves a ban?
Oh hold on they would know it was me from the mispelts reason
woolfart you have been binned for repat forum abuse
Good idea, bullie!
yes me to for substituting the ss in piss for the number 5 even though you can type the word piss
I pointed out that this was rather harsh
That is brilliant.
😀woolfart
They moderate anonymously to also reduce the instances of (abuse)
See, I wondered that, then I figured, if you're going to be abusive to the moderators, then you're a dirtbag and not welcome here anyway?
I take the point though, and it does make sense, though it saddens me that it's necessary.
Not a chance - to the appointing the worst offenders as moderators. This site is as important as the mag in terms of bringing home the bacon that pays the wages of the dozen or so people who work here. It would take more than a leap of faith to justify handing over the controls like that.
As for the 'gloating' on twitter. If anyone is insecure enough to decide the way to react to moderation is by emailing us frankly legally reportable abuse then MTFU when you get discussed on twitter.
Good idea, bullie!
Apparently not. 🙄
Why discuss it on twitter ?
Surely this is the place to moan about this place?
Sorry gut discussing it on twitter make everyone involved look bad, especially stw staff.
I disagree.
Surely everyone, Mark included, should be serving a ban for discussing moderation decisions on the forum? 😉
FWIW, I'm with Mark on this one. I thought that seeing the bile being posted was, err, "instructive" in forming an opinion on the rights and wrongs of the situation.
zokes - Member
Surely everyone, Mark included, should be serving a ban for discussing moderation decisions on the forum?
I keep hitting the "report post" button, but nothing's being done about it! 😉
I think it was fair to air stuff but it seems better to air STW stuff on stw that is all
Ps can I really realy see the e-mails - just block out the names I bet they are amusing...I will accept this for compensation in not being allowed to be a mod
I'd ban 'em all.
Welcome to the SouthernYetiWorld.
I will accept this for compensation in not being allowed to be a mod
I'd let you moderate on my forum Junky, or at the very least I'd give you a free stickre.
Ah I see, like if you were given a hard time at work by a colleague or a client you would post about it on the work forum?
And no, you arent getting to see the emails 🙂
I liked the twitter stuff. It was like a treasure hunt to find it, with tantalising mentions and quotes on here. Bit exciting like. 😀
Ah I see, like if you were given a hard time at work by a colleague or a client you would post about it on the work forum?
It doesn't often end too well when someone in that situation posts on social networking sites, that's for sure...
Now then girls, calm down calm down....
Twitter is where I can post statements, comments, rants that I don't necessarily want a reply from. It's often a cathartic release from the daily grind of life. That wouldn't work on here... Good grief no! 🙂
It's often a cathartic release from the daily grind of life.
... and there was me thinking it was all about telling the world you were about to make a cup of tea...
that whole fiasco was just a smart bit of guerilla marketing.. twitter were paying fred and mark 7p per sign-up.. I saw the emails describing the contract on bebo..
Ah I see, like if you were given a hard time at work by a colleague or a client you would post about it on the work forum?
Damn you and your clever arguing ..I realised after i asked why it would be stupid and just decend into an argument between you and the other fan boys.
It would be very entertaining though. 😛
And no, you arent getting to see the emails
Spoilsport
We could use it as a test of my integrity to be a mod [ runs of to check twitter ]
Mark's world:
Shhhhhh now Yunki
Bunnyhop should make special STW handbags for forum disputes! 😀
Well, like the OP, it finally helped me, I've managed more than a month off and can get through the day without posting quite often, wouldn't say I was cured, but well on the way, all thanks to enlightening a pseudo big hitter as to his low self esteem. I deserve and have awarded myself a medal..
+1 on the bragging on twitter, it is also a fair indicator of a persons character flaws...
Then we are all human and not without issues or we wouldn't be here flag waving...
Banning yourself however does bring back a sense of self control and depowers those who you would consider lessor beings..
consider lessor beings..
... who may also not be able to spel...
Hmmm. I'm not aware I or anyone else has 'bragged' about moderating.
Good idea Mrs Toast.Bunnyhop should make special STW handbags for forum disputes!
All decorated with pretty flowers and filled with a hearty breakfast (one needs sustenance before dawn).
Mark - Resident Grumpy
I disagree.
I think I should report this bloke for arguing - its not allowed, don't you know 😉
STW's version of an ASBO. Is there a symbol that goes next to your name like a premium subscriber's badge?
VD with Scar 😉
[i]Everyone in here is innocent, you know that[/i]
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I think I should report this bloke for arguing - its not allowed, don't you know
Didn't your charge sheet say "arguing [b]again[/b]" ? Mine did.
And to be fair Mark isn't a habitual arguer. Just grumpy.
Just re-read this and;
Not a chance - to the appointing the worst offenders as moderators.
I couldn't agree more. But that wasn't the suggestion. There are folk on STW who do repeat offend but aren't technically offensive, and they would be the type of people suitable for this type of intervention. By making them realise just how complex effective moderating is, you help to educate the masses.
I was thinking about this earlier,
I'd quite like a bit more transparency and consistency, so that when an infraction of the rules occurs it's clear what's happened and the offender has a chance to make their case before sentence is passed. I appreciate that the mods have better things to do than argue the toss, but it'd be nice to know whether replies (apologies / explanations) are ignored, acted on, or at least taken on board.
I appreciate that there's a need for mods to remain anonymous as Mark has explained, but from a user's perspective it's difficult to know whether you're dealing with the same person day to day.
How about, if each mod picked a pseudonym? Then, they could remain anonymous, but I'd get emails from "Colin" rather than a faceless machine?
ernie_lynch - Member
I think I should report this bloke for arguing - its not allowed, don't you know
Didn't your charge sheet say "arguing again" ? Mine did.
Cheeky 😉 no just a one word charge sheet - "arguing" - and considering TJ and I were banned for the same thread at the same time, you should have counted yourself lucky then (as you were just as argumentative as either of us on that thread) and now (the GG thread and your attacks on my pseudo lefty friend) 😉
I was only joking about Mark in the context of my ban!
