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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43069633

So what makes a bag a manbag?

Mintel senior fashion analyst Tamara Senders likes to keep things simple.

A manbag is "a bag worn by men, including backpacks and other styles such as shoulder bags", she informs us.

Piss off Tamara! My backpack ain't no manbag, it's an Osprey!


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 4:16 pm
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Man bags - grrrrrrr. I spoke to one user and they said they keep their wallet and keys in it. What??? Do you not have pockets?

if you’ve got folders/paperwork/laptop to carry then use a suitable bag/case. Otherwise, phone wallet and keys all go in your pockets in jeans/trousers/suit jacket. End of.


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 4:19 pm
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WTF? Hope they aren't paying her much as she hasn't got a clue! It's analogous with "handbag". Clearly doesn't refer to backpacks :rolleyes:


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 4:21 pm
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To keep our lunch in on the way from the house to our place of work. Such nonsense that it is 'on the rise'
Unless they mean those little sports branded rectangle ones that have been popularised by eastern europeans and now you see young men with them whilst also wearing comfy jogging pants out of the house.


 
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WGAF?!


 
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And another thing - massive wallets bulging with receipts/cards/loyalty things and are 3 inches thick. Why? I’ve got all the cards I need and mine is slim. If you’ve got 4 different coffee shop loyalty cards you really need to a) stop drinking so much coffee and b) look up what loyalty means in the dictionary and just go to the same one each time! Also put receipts away when you get home, don’t store them in your wallet for 18 months just in case you need to take those underpants back at a moments notice.


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 4:23 pm
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Roadmen innit blud


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 4:24 pm
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have you seen the size of the modern phablet(yes thats the word) ..... course they all need manbags to keep them in you cannot stick a phablet in your pocket.


 
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And another thing – massive wallets bulging with receipts/cards/loyalty things and are 3 inches thick.
there's a great Seinfeld episode about the perils of this 🙂


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 4:24 pm
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Smart leather clutch bags have been in common use in Germany for at least 50 years to my knowledge. They are very practical. Wallet keys phone etc. in jeans pockets? Nah. I have one which I used in Saudi (no jeans, no jacket). Admittedly I don't carry it in the UK.


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 4:29 pm
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One colleague had one on a night out. He got a fair bit of stick. In the end we got out of him what he actually kept in it. Bottle of aftershave and a spare shirt. WTAF.

Male vanity innit.


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 4:31 pm
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Don't worry too much,it's very European,so will be outlawed after Brexshit 😉


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 4:31 pm
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this is mine, using recycled inner tubes from www.beerbabe.co.uk


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 4:32 pm
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Shorter version:

Man seen yesterday, carrying a bag.  'Society' is largely a myth created by poor journalists.  Here's some more mythandry and mythogyny to get big tongues wagging from small heads.  No, I don't have a lisp.  The end.


 
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this is mine, using recycled inner tubes

Like it, does it come with the gimp mask or do I need to buy that separately - asking for a friend.


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 4:52 pm
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“Man bags on the rise”

Welcome to 2007.


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 4:54 pm
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What Malver and Bikebouy said.


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 5:02 pm
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Err .... if they are good enough for Indy. They are good enough for you ladies.


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 5:14 pm
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When Mark Carney toted a "soft-sided, long-handled grey bag" GQ says it was a watershed for men's bags

A watershed? really??


 
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Bisphenol a


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 5:25 pm
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I bet Tamara would pass out from excitement if she could see the Jean Paul Gaultier rucksack that im using today.

I refuse to call it a man bag though, manbags are those silly little shoulderbags.


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 5:35 pm
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phablet

A tablet for men with a small ding-a-ling?


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 5:37 pm
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a phone for men with poor eye sight i think .


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 5:40 pm
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I really don't give a toss what anyone in marketing or fashion is pushing. Scum encouraging pointless over consumption.

(Bad day at work....again).


 
Posted : 16/02/2018 6:19 pm
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I had an off down a steep slope and ended up with an a-c separation.  The only lasting effect is a sizeable lump on top of my right shoulder.

This means I can carry a man bag nonchalantly without it slipping off.

If only I had a man bag.


 
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People use man bags because they’re really bloody handy. Wherever I go, I tend to have not only my wallet and keys, but my phone, a book, a notebook and pen, a pocketknife, and whatever else I may need to carry at a given time.

For all this stuff, I have either a rucksack, or a leather bag that looks a bit like a medieval satchel.


 
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I think the danger with them is they mark you out as a target for thieves.

Should we attack this tattooed man with large hands who's carrying an Umbro holdall that's probably full of Lynx Africa deodorant/condoms/cans of Fosters etc.

Or this man with a limp wrist, and a leather satchel that's full of Apple, who looks like he'll hyperventilate rather than throw a punch.


 
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I think the danger with them is they mark you out as a target for thieves.

Should we attack this tattooed man with large hands who’s carrying an Umbro holdall that’s probably full of Lynx Africa deodorant/condoms/cans of Fosters etc.

Or this man with a limp wrist, and a leather satchel that’s full of Apple, who looks like he’ll hyperventilate rather than throw a punch.

.Very much this I believe.


 
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I have used various bags that would now be described as a man bag since I was about 13. I can even be found carrying a bag with my wallet and keys in whilst having completely empty pockets!


 
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in defence - when my kids were born the amount of shite you have to carry around - snacks, nappies, wipes, stuff to entertain them - made a manbag a necessity. And it's still bloody useful now, for longer days out. Although mine is a cross between a rucksack and a manbag; one strap but goes across the body sort with a phone pocket in front.


 
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And another thing – massive wallets bulging with receipts/cards/loyalty things and are 3 inches thick. Why? I’ve got all the cards I need and mine is slim. If you’ve got 4 different coffee shop loyalty cards you really need to a) stop drinking so much coffee and b) look up what loyalty means in the dictionary and just go to the same one each time! Also put receipts away when you get home, don’t store them in your wallet for 18 months just in case you need to take those underpants back at a moments notice.

S’up sweetie, cat pissed on your cornflakes this morning?
Really, do you actually take notice of this sort of Daily Mail-type click-bait bollocks and take it seriously?
Really? Shirley you’ve got better things to do with your time.
Men have been carrying satchel-type bags for a century or more, I’ve got a copy of a WW1/2 canvas gas-mask bag, my dad had an almost identical original one he took his flask to work in, there are similar ones made from canvas and leather, which are copies of Canadian army officer’s bags, then there are courier bags, satchels...
A ‘man-bag’ is, pretty much by definition one of those little purse-things carried over a shoulder, anything else is just a bag.
And bulging wallets is hardly a singularly male thing either!


 
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Men have been carrying satchel-type bags for a century or more, I’ve got a copy of a WW1/2 canvas gas-mask bag

Yes, there was once a time and a place when a manbag wouldn't have left your side. I imagine you'd have a felt a knot in your stomach if you'd forgotten it, knowing you could end up a gas mask away from a painful death.

It's strange that these bags that once carried gas masks are now used to carry phablets, aftershave, pocket knives and a change of shirt. Essential survival items in tough 21st century Britain? I can sadly imagine that people still feel a knot in their stomach if they forget to take it with them when they leave home in the morning.


 
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I've always had a Timbuk2 messenger bag for my day to day lugging stuff duties. Probably on about my fourth over the past 25+ or so years. Does this mean that it's a man bag again? I thought we'd grown out of those sorts of labels? Along with 'designer stubble', ffs.


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 12:10 am
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I carry a man bag with pride. I keep my spare ileostomy bags and associated bits and bobs in it.

Always a fun conversation with a nightclub bouncer. 'What's in your bag?'. 'Err, bags to shit in...'


 
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I just carry the front door key, one card and my phone if I’m out and about. Carrying them in a bag just seems like a waste of energy (and bag). If you’re carrying lots of stuff for work then use whatever bag suits your needs. I use a messenger style satchel thing when out with the kids or travelling for work.


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 12:47 pm
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Literally will cause a knot in your stomach if you forget your bag then DannyBGoode.


 
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Yep. Or look for a discarded wine cork 🙂


 
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Why on the rise ? Because they are really useful , and people including men need a lot of clutter , my handbag contains phone wallet, pen ,cheque book, first aid kit ,keys passport , sewing kit, knife , my migraine drugs , and emergency chocolate and crayons for my boy. http://www.madaboutmountains.co.uk/p/6891/Lowe-Alpine-Flight-Case-Small
You can't stuff all that in pockets and it would be a pain to keep transferring all from ordinary jacket to suit and back .


 
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Yep. Or look for a discarded wine cork 🙂

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I don’t think a bag like the inner tube one above is a man bag. It’s just a bag. Man bags are those little things about 15cm square things. If you need to carry folders and a laptop around or baby things you have a bag like a courier bag or briefcase. Man bags aren’t any use for useful stuff, they’re just there to carry the stuff normal blokes have in their pockets.


 
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S’up sweetie, cat pissed on your cornflakes this morning?
Really, do you actually take notice of this sort of Daily Mail-type click-bait bollocks and take it seriously?
Really? Shirley you’ve got better things to do with your time.

i was just having a laugh, you’re taking it too seriously. But you wouldn’t sound like an internet hard man if you didn’t have a nasty dig at someone every so often would you? . 🙄


 
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^^ 🤣


 
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I always use a manbag. Mobile phone,water so I can take tablets,my ecig,eliquid and a spare coil.


 
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I have an old leather satchel if I need to carry lots of papers etc, but I couldn't put my keys etc in there. I'd be paranoid of leaving it somewhere. Keys in jeans pocket, phone in the other. Wallet in back pocket. You can feel that they're there. It's reassuring.

I have no opinion of other guys using a manbag. What does make me wince though is men who keep coins in there wallet, like a little purse. Seeing them peering in and trying to fish out the exact change out of their girly purse at the bar brings me out in a mild rage. I've no idea why...


 
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men who keep coins in there wallet, like a little purse. Seeing them peering in and trying to fish out the exact change out of their girly purse at the bar brings me out in a mild rage. I’ve no idea why…

I’m glad I’m not the only one that finds this weird.

Coins in wallets. Wtf. 😂


 
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I ride every day with an evoc backpack or (and some days plus) a DaKine 30ltr backpack. Are either of these manbags? Do i need to worry?


 
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I use a small rucksack for lunch, laptop, assorted man crap etc.

Tbh a man bag might not be a bad alternative. If men want to be practical and carry their stuff around in a bag who GAF if it’s a tesco bag for life or made in hebden from genuine northern bullshit?


 
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i was just having a laugh, you’re taking it too seriously. But you wouldn’t sound like an internet hard man if you didn’t have a nasty dig at someone every so often would you? . 🙄

Hardly looked that way, seemed more like someone getting their nickers in a twist over something barely worth a thought, but if it makes you feel better, knock yerself out. #rollseyes
Oh, and my choice of ‘manbag’ when I went shopping in town was my green canvas paper-delivery bag when I sold evening papers outside of Westinghouse Brake & Signal Co after school. Which makes it 51 years old, you can still see, very faintly, Evening Post stencilled on the flap, and a Yes logo I drew on the front when I used it at college in Bristol.
Still in good nick, it’ll probably last longer than me!


 
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As a poncey metropolitan designer type i’ve been using a satchel type man-bag for years. I have a nice selection and rarely leave home without one.

My present favourite is a nice olive canvas John Roscha shoulder bag which just like your average ladies haaaaandbaaaaaaag is absolutely stuffed full of all manner of accumulated crap, including a small anvil to break other people’s hips on public transport

seriously.... why would anyone care what other people choose to lug there stuff around in


 
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Man bags – grrrrrrr. I spoke to one user and they said they keep their wallet and keys in it. What??? Do you not have pockets?

if you’ve got folders/paperwork/laptop to carry then use a suitable bag/case. Otherwise, phone wallet and keys all go in your pockets in jeans/trousers/suit jacket. End of.

Hang on a chuffin SECOND there!

Not that long ago you BOUGHT ME A MANBAG for Christmas! And you told me to give it a try as it was a good idea or something along those lines!


 
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[b]crankboy[/b] wrote:

people including men need a lot of clutter

Fixed. This is why women feel the need to carry huge bags around with them, let's not join them! I don't even carry a wallet anymore as it just led to me carrying too much clutter - nowadays just a couple of cards and a few notes in my pocket which I find works fine. Or given the existence of Android Pay, often just (compact) phone and keys.

cheque book... passport

Often find yourself needing to take a flight at a moment's notice in the 20th century? 😉


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 6:55 pm
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Hang on a chuffin SECOND there!

Not that long ago you BOUGHT ME A MANBAG for Christmas! And you told me to give it a try as it was a good idea or something along those lines!

Haha! Busted!


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 7:16 pm
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People use man bags because they’re really bloody handy. Wherever I go, I tend to have not only my wallet and keys, but my phone, a book, a notebook and pen, a pocketknife, and whatever else I may need to carry at a given time.

This.  I'm a geek, my pockets are at capacity.

Back when phones looked like this

you could cheerfully stick it in your front jeans pocket and forget about it.  Now that your average handset is the size of Belgium it's not really a viable option.

Plus, it's nice to have stuff to hand.  I've got a SAK in mine which gets almost daily use.  Pen and notepad is often handy (I know that's a bit luddite when I could use my phone).  I used to have a torch until I replaced it with a pocket keyring job.  Emergency deodorant for times when I've been running around all day at work and start to get a bit ripe in the middle of the afternoon.  And so forth.  Kindle?  Tablet?  Micro-USB cable?  Emergency Mars bar?

It's a useful thing.  There's a degree of snobbery about it, my mates took the piss for about five minutes until they realised I didn't care, and in any case they soon change their tune when the arm falls off their glasses in the pub or something and I hand them a screwdriver.


 
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my mates took the piss for about five minutes until they realised I didn’t care, and in any case they soon change their tune when the arm falls off their glasses in the pub or something and I hand them a screwdriver.

This. So many times.


 
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Hang on a chuffin SECOND there!

Not that long ago you BOUGHT ME A MANBAG for Christmas! And you told me to give it a try as it was a good idea or something along those lines!

I probably just bought you a bag? A man-bag isn't just a bag carried by a man (which would include gym bags/courier bags/laptop bags etc), its those tiny things which are basically a handbag for men. Which no-one needs.


 
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Oh oh,rob's been outed my his bro 🙂  🙂


 
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This is a man-bag 

This is a man carrying a bag


 
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Oh oh,rob’s been outed my his bro

I honestly can't remember buying him a bag, but it wouldn't have been a man-bag. It would have just been a normal bag, as per my description above. 🙂


 
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Robster,you care about this subject far too much,just come out of that closet and go buy one 😉 🙂


 
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my handbag contains .................cheque book, first aid kit ......... passport , sewing kit, knife

Eh? a cheque book, passport, sewing kit & knife are you Mick Dundee in disguise


 
Posted : 20/02/2018 3:19 pm
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Rob.... I'm going to go out on a limb here but do you have a subscription to Mens Health Magazine by any chance?


 
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Rob…. I’m going to go out on a limb here but do you have a subscription to Mens Health Magazine by any chance?

If you saw me you’d know that I don’t!!


 
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In and out of airports and planes, this has become my go to bag, along with a small roll along.

https://www.samsonite.co.uk/cityvibe-tablet-cross-over-17.8-24.5cm-7-9.7inch/59552.html?dwvar_59552_color=2440&cgid=2550#start=9&cgid=2550

perfect for ipad, phone, passport, book, wallet, odds and sods. Much better than a backpack, I hate faffing around taking on off for stuff.


 
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I used to always carry a courier bag around, and still do for work, because I carry various bits and bobs between jobs, like a phone screen mount, cables, a spare powerpack in case the car’s 12v socket doesn’t work, and the USB hasn’t got the juice to charge a phone with the satnav running, which is usually the case, my trade plates, a bottle of drink, and other odds and ends, but my regular bag is one of these:

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I keep a couple of large shopping bags folded up just in case I need to carry shopping.
It’ll carry my iPad, and some other bits and pieces, and doesn’t get in the way.
If it was good enough for soldiers to carry on the front line, it’s good enough for me.
And it was cheap.
Most of my daily stuff goes in my pockets, my Pelican wallet, phone, keys, pocket knife, and a leather pouch for loose change.


 
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 a leather pouch for loose change.

A purse, you mean? (-:

I quite like that bag, though I'd prefer more pockets.  What is it, some sort of army surplus affair?

I've been after a replacement for mine for months but the current trend seems to be either massive bags, really expensive, or both.  I want something big enough to hold an 8" tablet and a few odds and sods in, rather than something I could fit a laptop into.


 
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they soon change their tune when the arm falls off their glasses in the pub or something and I hand them a screwdriver.


 
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Cougar - get yourself off to Debenhams and get yourself one of these. Fits the bill perfectly

http://www.debenhams.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prod_10701_10001_083010642863_-1


 
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I've just calculated that I possibly have more bags than braincells.  Not a triumphant feat by any standards.  i seriosuly doubt that any are press-worthy, but here:

- Derwent canvas land bag for sketching tools, paintbox, brushes and peanut butter sarnies

- 70s brown leather school satchel.  For bigger sketchbook, tablet and stuff.  Smart eh?

- Polish army map satchel.  Now redundant see above.

- Lidl 18l rucksack with rain-cover for lightweight day trips or overnight visits

- Roll-top cycle pannier/s with shoulder-straps for the grocery runs

- Bladder-less Camelbak Lobo when I want to carry minimal stuff for a day (phone, keys, charge-pack, bike lock, hat, gloves, multitool, puncture kit, tick-twister, etc)

- Bladder-less Camelbak smaller (Hydrobak?) backpack for when I want to carry even less than the bare minimum (phone, keys, cable-lock, gloves, Buff scarf)

- Laptop messenger bag

- BCB 25l canvas rucksack for heavier-weight day-trips or minimalist night-camps


 
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@binners - cheers for that (I was just looking at Debenhams as it happens), still on the large side though.

  • HWD: 27 x 42 x 12cm

The one I have is roughly 30x24, and it's on the large side if anything.  The little Samsonite ones look closer to what I'm looking for I think.


 
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this has become my go to bag, along with a small roll along.

A "small roll along"? Whaaaa? I seriously hope you carry the ****er but it sounds to me like that compounded horror: the manbag on wheels.

I'd say I don't have words but I do have words. Just they'd all be rendered as asterisks...


 
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who GAF if it’s a tesco bag for life or made in hebden from genuine northern bullshit?


 
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I don't carry a manbag, but agree with the definition that a manbag is a manbag, whereas a man carrying a bag is different

I trimmed down what I carry quite a lot - phone, keys and wallet. Mainly so I can easily carry them when wearing shorts!

Phone has the stocard app, which is ace. Wallet is a Trove which is ridiculously tiny. Keys have some gadgets (like a Leatherman PS4) but still relatively small

I carry a rackpack on my bike every time I go to work which i suppose counts. I carry a shirt to work as well as useful other bits (like jacket, tools, tube etc)


 
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Thrilling stuff isn't it?  There's always going to be someone angry or disgusted at you because you carry stuff in a bag.   What gets such people most of all is that it's not necessarily the bag that they would choose.  The in-group/out-group prone are the same ones who are angered because you ride one of those childish contraptions called a 'bike' while they (and the people with whom they identify) naturally drive everywhere and wouldn't be caught dead on a child's toy wearing those gay-looking tight clothes.  Neither those oversize shorts meant for school boys.  It just makes you endlessly annoying to them (and possibly a bit creepy).  With a little 'help' from the popular press you may already be given short shrift on the street.  Take care out there.

Same goes for clothing.  It's a minefield.  There is little that will mark you as an 'outie' more quickly than choosing clothing that strays too far from the unwritten and largely shifting codes of 'acceptable'.


 
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Malvern.

Over the shoulder bum bags is where it's at 😉


 
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What's in kakky-brown short guy's pocket? And did he choose those red-tongued shoes to match his knees?

And why does the over-shoulder bag have a big round label on it?  Is it an identity device?  A code?  I remember in the 90s shoes with CONS written on the hugely oversized tongues.  I felt a little that way (conned) after buying some simply because it said CONS and the 'cool dudes' (am too old to know contemporary equivalent) in town had some on.  So I followed suit, as if a fool lost for ideas.

And men who wear Clarks?  As a school-kid I learned that Clarks shoes were probably a signifier of immense creepiness.  Because comfortable.

Humans really are weird aren't we?  When you think about it.


 
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I have over 20 rucksack/backpacks, seriously. I could probably do with selling half a dozen or so.

(that doesn't include holdalls, messenger bags, waistpacks etc)


 
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