I’d rather it just infected the stupid.
You after some time off 😉
This warning is also circulating in Oz. (I don't know how accurate it is)
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS
1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold.
2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.
3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.
4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to
the ground and is no longer airborne.
5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so
if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon
as you can with a bacterial soap.
6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will
kill it.
7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink
liquids with ice.
8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for
5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your
eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.
9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in
warm water will suffice.
10. Can't emphasise enough - drink plenty of water!
THE SYMPTOMS
1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting
3/4 days
2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the
trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days
further.
3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.
4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're
drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.
P-jay
...and a lot of the poverty we have in the UK is an unintended consequence of an ageing population with their huge property wealth and triple-locked, non means tested benefits.
You have mentioned this quite a bit.
It really does sound like the thin edge of a hate envy wedge.
Anticipating positively the eradication of a certain sector of society, for whatever reason, isn’t really a sign of a nice human being.
I guess I'm not very nice then.
This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.
I have a sneaky suspicion the temperature inside our bodies is higher than 26/27 degrees.
Also, 9 days is quoted on various sites as the 'outside body survival time' for coronavirus.
Apologies if this has been asked/answered over the past few hundred posts, but I haven't checked for myself.
So, so far one Formula 1 race is off, others are at risk. One of the Six Nations games has been cancelled, the rest of the competition is in doubt. The UAE bike race, the Paris marathon and the Qatar Moto GP have been cancelled.
Is anyone willing to wager on this being worry-mongering, or is it the first few flakes of snow before an avalanche of large-event cancellations world-wide?
You see I've signed up to the Etape du Tour in France in July and want to know whether or not to bother training.
I don’t know how accurate it is
Not very.
You see I’ve signed up to the Etape du Tour in France in July and want to know whether or not to bother training.
Train anyway why wouldn’t you?
You see I’ve signed up to the Etape du Tour in France in July and want to know whether or not to bother training.
Train. By July either it'll have turned out to be the millennium bug all over again and the race will be going on as normal whilst the media makes from page news of Bozza's baby name, or the world will be a downward spiral of loo rollessness and food riots and you'll be glad of any advantage you've got.
(my money is on the first)
So, so far one Formula 1 race is off, others are at risk. One of the Six Nations games has been cancelled, the rest of the competition is in doubt. The UAE bike race, the Paris marathon and the Qatar Moto GP have been cancelled.
Is anyone willing to wager on this being worry-mongering, or is it the first few flakes of snow before an avalanche of large-event cancellations world-wide?
I'm sure this will be something driven by Lawyers and Insurance brokers more than Medics, but you can see the sense of it.
Thousands of people in close proximity it only need one Dick from Wuhan / Lombardi etc with 'just a cold' to attend and they might infect a dozen, 2 dozen, a hundred people or whatever and they spend the next 2 weeks spreading it to every corner of the world they came from for 2 weeks before they see any symptoms.
It was in the back of my mind when I was at a 6 nations game last weekend, 70+k people in the Stadium, thousands more in the pubs and bars to join the atmosphere all in very close proximity,
Yep train - best place to be is out on your own away from people coughing and sneezing on you. Plus increased fitness is likely to help if you do contract it. And every hour out on the bike is away from the doom mongers in the media so your mental outlook will be better.
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT – CORONAVIRUS
1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold.
LOL what crap.
Other commonly implicated viruses include human coronavirus (≈ 15%),[31][32] influenza viruses (10–15%),[33] adenoviruses (5%),[33] human respiratory syncytial virus (orthopneumovirus), enteroviruses other than rhinoviruses, human parainfluenza viruses, and human metapneumovirus.[34] Frequently more than one virus is present.[35] In total over 200 viral types are associated with colds.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cold
CDC, Livescience, New Scientist - all report that some cases include more classical cold symptoms such as runny noses.
oldagedpredator
Unfortunately I dont think this is something you can prepare for you…Tha Australian govt did.
“Australia has secretly hoarded $100million worth of medical supplies in case of a pandemic and the stockpile is now being deployed for the coronavirus.
The federal Health Department’s National Medical Stockpile contains 20 million single-use face masks, antibiotics and pallets of hand sanitiser accumulated over a decade.
The stockpile is kept in various top secret strategic locations, the Health Department says on its website.” (from Daily Mail Australia 29/2/20)
Well the Oz population is 25 million, so most people get one go on a face mask and the rest can just take their chances.
Lots of hand sanitizer, handy but soap is ok too.
Antibiotics.... It's a virus.
That's $100 million well spent 👌
The stockpiling will mostly be for frontline personnel. That is remarkably organised of the Auddies, wonder if we've done the same, likely not.
Going to Eurodisney at the start of April, Jam packed with 40,000 + kids and parents from all over Europe and beyond all hugging Mickey Mouse et al. What could possibly go wrong?
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& importantly decimating funding for social careThis is going to be a massive issue. Mrs Daz is a social worker who spends a lot of time in care homes and has had multiple conversation with careworkers who have told her the whole thing will collapse very easily. If they don’t go into work due to self-isolation, they don’t get paid so there’s a very high chance of infections from workers who don’t want to lose money. If they do take time off, who’s going to look after the residents?
If your wife is really a social worker then I am very surprised she needed to talk to careworkers to actually know how precarious the whole social care structure is .. there was a recent big care provider that went into administration that cleanly identified that.
Also - its a shame the Brexit thread regulars have showed up on here. How they can make excuses for Raybanwomble just demonstrates they hold similar twisted views and opinions. Anybody who states they would be mildly amused if somebody dies from this coronavirus is clearly sick in the head.
Going to Eurodisney at the start of April, Jam packed with 40,000 + kids and parents from all over Europe and beyond all hugging Mickey Mouse et al. What could possibly go wrong?
Jeez any one of them could be carrying the virus. It's a small world after all.
Seeing as what I posted up there isn't right, can someone post a corrected version?
Or do we rely on?
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Antibiotics…. It’s a virus.
Which can lead to pneumonia that one of the treatments is antibiotics.
Seeing as what I posted up there isn’t right, can someone post a corrected version?
There’s a tonne of info out there without the Facebook OMG share this rubbish.
There's a difference between anticipating a possible outcome and eagerly awaiting it.
Not totally convinced by that Aussie advice. Especially the symptoms bit which seems to read "Step 2 - you will get pneumonia and die"
Mickey Mouse et al. What could possibly go wrong?
You'll be fine, it's bat's and pangolins that are the risk. Mice is hanta virus.
So after 9 years of working from home, I'm due to move into an office/workshop this week just as everyone else is being asked to work from home.
On a related note, it will take just one Corona carrying person using the London Underground at rush hour and the genie will be well and truly out of the bottle.
But exterminate the poor via a virus & the whole problem goes away.
More likely to solve the pension crisis, I think.
Not totally convinced by that Aussie advice.
I don’t think it’s official advice.
40% of my daughter’s primary school are absent this morning.. all have similar symptoms of sore throat / cough / temperature..
Normal class size of 30+ pupils?
67 kids in the school. 26 arent in school today.
LEA apparently not worried as there's been no contact / link with another confirmed case.
I am very surprised she needed to talk to careworkers
She didn't need to, she just did FFS. Next time she offers me some information based on her experience I'll tell her she's a thicko and should already have known.
its a shame the Brexit thread regulars have showed up on here.
Brexit is an expression of the self-important entitlement we have in this country. The bubble needs bursting, and if coronavirus is the means to do that then it's probably no bad thing. You never know, as a civilisation we might just come out of this with a more humble outlook on life, nature, and the world around us. I very much doubt it though.
Tell you what, this coronavirus scare makes you realise just how dependant we all are on world government.
Some of the views being espoused on this thread are truly some of the most distasteful things I've read on STW for a very long time.
One case has been reported close to home today. Think I'll chance going home as I don't fancy isolation at work.
is it my browser, or is there some serious editing/moderation going on in this thread?
On a related note, it will take just one Corona carrying person using the London Underground at rush hour and the genie will be well and truly out of the bottle.
Or not. All depends how sneazy/coughy and touchy they are. If they didn't sneeze or cough and didn't put their hands all over the place then only the few closest would get it. Not really any different than if someone had it in a crowded meeting room I was in last week.
Perfect opportunity for any savvy kid to get a couple of weeks off school
Muuuuum, my throats really really really sore and Jimmy's dad's brothers cousin went skiing in Italy 2 weeks ago
Muuuuum, my throats really really really sore and Jimmy’s dad’s brothers cousin went skiing in Italy 2 weeks ago
Did he have confirmed Covid 19?
Noooooooo?
The get to school you lazy shit.
Did he have confirmed Covid 19?
Noooooooo?
The get to school you lazy shit.
Thats what my wife said to me this morning!!
The bubble needs bursting, and if coronavirus is the means to do that then it’s probably no bad thing.
Uh, no, that would be a bad thing. It might happen but preferably political, social and environmental change would preferably not be driven by suffering.
Thats what my wife said to me this morning!!
😂
Perfect opportunity for any savvy kid to get a couple of weeks off school
Not just kids. There has been a confirmed case at a TV studio in Maidstone. It was reported in the local rag that all the builders working on a housing development next door immediately went home for the foreseeable, and two women whose flats overlook the studios have taken their kids & moved in with family.
Mice is hanta virus
Someone told me it was reindeer
There doesn’t seem to be any confirmed cases in Southampton in the media, but some out towards Romsey
Do tell - I'd heard that there were no +ves in Hampshire
It’s a small world after all.
I felt this deserved more recognition 👏👏
My little corner shop is well ahead of the curve.
He's got a load of ffp2 masks in stock. Yeah,I bought some.
Googling suggests they do offer some marginal protection if fitted properly and if nothing else, prevent you touching your mouth/ noise. Which is a bad idea. Not importantly, if you did get infected it can help prevent you spreading it to others.of course.
Selling them cheap too. I looked on Amazon out of interest and the prices are a bit mental.Lol
My other half works in a pathology lab in an NHS hospital and they have just started getting (potential) covid tests coming through. This is in North Kent.
She doesnt process them though, they go to a more specialised unit in the hospital apparently.
It might happen but preferably political, social and environmental change would preferably not be driven by suffering.
Ha! And people say I'm a naive idealist.
Actual scientific research is now available free
https://www.springernature.com/gp/researchers/campaigns/coronavirus
Personally, I am not too concerned if I catch this virus. However i'll be taking Acillin supplements as its antiviral and it might prevent infection.
To quote the BBC yesterday, 'To put this into context, about one billion people catch infulenza every year with between 290,000 and 650,000 deaths.'
Personally, I am not too concerned if I catch this virus. However i’ll be taking Acillin supplements as its antiviral and it might prevent infection.
To quote the BBC yesterday, ‘To put this into context, about one billion people catch infulenza every year with between 290,000 and 650,000 deaths.’
Thats a pretty low mortality % rate.
Coronovirus is currently running at about 6% mortality.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
I'm finding it mildly amusing that on the one hand we are being told 0.16% is fantastic re. a US trade deal and on the other that the corona virus mortality in the below 50's (0.4%) is statically irrelevant (I know which I believe!)
Local primary school headteacher is apparently now in isolation. Picking up child from nursery today there was a strong sniff of disinfectant and a huge bottle of hand sanitizer by the door.
confirmed case at a TV studio in Maidstone. It was reported in the local rag that all the builders working on a housing development next door immediately went home for the foreseeable,
That’s the case I’m referring to- the studio is the other side of the nature reserve behind my back garden. I was walking my dog past it at the weekend. Cough cough!
2nd claim to infamy, the brickie is a subbie working for my employer! Any excuse to skive off. Shows how much they get paid to down tools so quickly!
3rd claim- my son’s pa has a friend that works in the office where the infected person works!
Perfect opportunity for any savvy kid to get a couple of weeks off school
Muuuuum, my throats really really really sore and Jimmy’s dad’s brothers cousin went skiing in Italy 2 weeks ago
Why are kids still expected at school? (seriously)
effect on economy, minimal
effect on transmission, huge
sounds like a no brainer to me?
