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Jibe? It's the Union Gammoners attempt at being funny, but it's no mysoginistic, or sexist, cos Jimmy Crankie is played by a female, right?.
Don't dare comment on Ms Davidson right enough, that's not on.
Tbf, I'm sure she takes it as a compliment, as she's really the only party leader in Scotland that gets stick, a sign of just how completely inept and irrelevant the rest of them are, Patrick Harvie the one possible exception.
Hardly any charges...
Guardian link.. Alex Salmond charged with sexual assault and attempted rape
Personally I'm waiting for the crowdfund klaxon.
nobeer, you seem to be under the impression that rudeness and gammon exist on only one side in Scotland.
Should'a gone to specsavers
If that charge sheet tells us anything it's that he's clearly better at sexual assualt than rape.
I can see the battle lines are drawn on this, which is ridiculous in itself. If he did these things **** him, if he didn't, he'll get off in court. Dunno what it has to do with unionism or independence myself.
Regardless of the outcome of the case, I think it's safe to say Salmond is yesterday's man as far as effectiveness in the forthcoming independence campaign.
"battle lines"
I don't really see this thread full of people on either side claiming hes innocent or guilty. Personally, just now, I find the whole thing really sad.
Hes a divisive politician, in legal trouble. Its gonna get comments, but the truth of the allegations isn't the meat of this thread (as I see it). Its peoples reaction to the situation (plot! crowdfund!) reaction to the accusations (do we believe complainants or just make sure they get a fair hearing or assume political interference and shennanigans) thats whats interesting.
Personally, I don't like Salmond and the SNP (if anyone was wondering), but its definitely sadness and what the complainants are about to go through thats on my mind at the moment.
nobeer, you seem to be under the impression that rudeness and gammon exist on only one side in Scotland.
Nope, as I said earlier there are loons on both sides, possibly even more on the nationalist side, but the angry British Oompah merchants only tub thump the unionist agenda I'm afraid. I'm a Rangers fan, I'm well aware what a Unionist gammon looks like when it's singing next to me.
but its definitely sadness and what the complainants are about to go through thats on my mind at the moment.
Aye, right ye are.
epicyclo,
refreshing to see your absolute priorities on display there.
I wonder (assuming his guilt is proven) how this will then effect little Jimmy Krankie?
Steadyy, steady, holdd, hold ... 😀
eat_the-pudding
epicyclo,
refreshing to see your absolute priorities on display there.
Come off it. The whole purpose of this thread is schadenfreude, not concern for the complainants.
Exactly.
she’s really the only party leader in Scotland that gets stick
That's not quite true though is it?
the impression that rudeness and gammon exist on only one side in Scotland.
Naw, it's banter and haggis oan the ither.
However, the usual suspects will use this whole scenario for their own agenda
That would be said loonies you referred to before. Read the comments section of The Ferret if you want some proper tartan blinkers and misogynistic shite (or not, I wouldn't blame you if you didn't).
Canny beat a bit of Gary Tank Commander! I'm assuming that's an insult levelled at Davidson? I've genuinely never heard it, but I don't do ****ter.
I hear the Labour dude on FMQ last week, Richard something? my god he was cringworthy, truly awful. So bad that wee Kezia must be a shout for a comeback, if that's the best they have....
Blimey! I've not really been following this whole thing, but 14 charges against him, including 2 of attempted rape?!
I was just disappointed he didn't arrive at Court in a police van, wearing handcuffs!
<quote]she’s really the only party leader in Scotland that gets stick
The Jimmy Krankie crackis OK though as she looks like her/him. Could make some effort to not look like him/her if she wanted to...
Aye that's Davidson. Not heard anything about Richard Leonard tbh but I voted for him (union) over the others as he was the only one not associated with Dugdale, Murphy or the rest of the gang. Scottish politics are pish tbh, one party that dominates and the rest with nobody competent enough to hold them to account.
Scottish politics are pish tbh, one party that dominates and the rest with nobody competent enough to hold them to account.
So very similar to the present Westminster politics then?
The Jimmy Krankie crackis OK though as she looks like her/him. Could make some effort to not look like him/her if she wanted to…
Off we go ... LOL! 😀
Yes, let's have a go at changing a thread about a male politican (who has just been charged with attempted rape) into taking the piss out of a female politican. Nice work.
Blimey! I’ve not really been following this whole thing, but 14 charges against him, including 2 of attempted rape?!
If you've ever been charged with anything in Scotland you'll be familiar with the long drawn out charge sheet and be left scratching your head how they managed to come up with it all.
Edit:
Nah, forget it.
Jimmy Krankie is a fictional character created by entertainer Janette Tough, isn’t he? What’s he got to do with Salmond’s arrest?
The Jimmy Krankie crackis OK though as she looks like her/him. Could make some effort to not look like him/her if she wanted to…
I apologise if my attempt at humour offends - I don't mean to. In fact I find the whole political landscape (both the specific position regarding being part of the United Kingdom by some in power in Scotland and the UK-wide situation regarding Brexit) quite depressing and laughing at the whole shower of shite (of all political persuasions) is my only line of defence right now.
If you’ve ever been charged with anything in Scotland you’ll be familiar with the long drawn out charge sheet and be left scratching your head how they managed to come up with it all.
Presumably by investigating claims and deciding the evidence warrants further action.
Also, presumably Police Scotland isn't staffed by misogynistic ****s like yourself.
Yes, let’s have a go at changing a thread about a male politican (who has just been charged with attempted rape) into taking the piss out of a female politican. Nice work.
Because she is potentially implicated in this (she has just referred herself to the ethics body because of a secret meeting she had with Salmond) it has nothing to do with gender. And she does look like Jimmy Krankie - of that there is no doubt.
she is potentially implicated in this
then discussing her possible involvment may well be considered sub-judice and be punishable by 2 years in prison?
Perhaps. I'll await the call thanks.
I would say I hope the truth come out in court but I doubt it, and anyone that thinks the police investigate and decide if the evidence warrants further action have a very rose tinted view of the police.
anyone that thinks the police investigate and decide if the evidence warrants further action have a very rose tinted view of the police. don't understand how the criminal justice system works.
FTFY
If only you were right.
OK, you think Sturgeon looks like Jimmie Krankie. What's that got to do with the Salmond case? I'm not seeing the connection.
OK, you think Sturgeon looks like Jimmie Krankie. What’s that got to do with the Salmond case? I’m not seeing the connection.
^^^^ See my above excuse/rationalisation
It will go on another 12 months, Salmond will accept a plea deal, he will get a slap on the wrist. Job done!
anyone that thinks the police investigate and decide if the evidence warrants further action
have a very rose tinted view of the police. don’t understand how the criminal justice system works.
Well I was trying to keep it simple, I'm well aware that the PF makes the decision on whether to prosecute.
^^^^ See my above excuse/rationalisation
I read that. Still not seeing a connection between Sturgeon's appearance and the Salmond case.
Also, presumably Police Scotland isn’t staffed by misogynistic **** like yourself.
Aye, right. They are part of the patriarchy.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45210397
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45904198
I have to say the responses to this online from the snp brigade are no different to responses to trump's antics from his supporters, sheer blind loyalty and complete denial that any of it could possibly be true. Really odd that people can believe in things so strongly for so little reason!
epicyclo,
You're free to doubt my level of schadenfreude; To be honest I'd be in hog heaven if he'd been charged with financial incompetence or dangling his tackle out the window from bute house.
But I'm not getting much joy from that list.
Procurator Fiscal won't take anything this far unless they feel there's enough evident and certainly not against someone as canny as wee eck.
Edit:
Again, nah, forget it.
epicyclo,
I think I've said before that the timing is not really much of a surprise. When people said the timing was "calculated to do the most damage to Salmond", I suggested that 2013 could have been a wee bit more damaging if that was the intention.
Possible reasons just off the top of my head;
What if they;
a) share his political views and didn't want to rock the independence boat.
b) weren't sure if complaints against the top politician in Scotland would be dealt with fairly.
c) only recently found out they were not alone in being treated this way.
d) watched a documentary on the #metoo movement
By the way you're _still_ either suggesting (or repeating the suggestions of others) that there is something underhand WRT the complaints or the complainants.
One thing I find strange about this is the despite all Salmonds political enemies before this there has never been a whisper of him being a groper at all. Usually we know via roundabout routes who the gropers are. Saville for example we knew about a decade before he was exposed.
A loudmouth and a bit of a bully yes. Arrogant smug git yes. We knew that. But not a whisper of being a creep and a groper. Scottish politics is a small world I find that strange.
Really? Nicola “meMeMYlastinglegacy” Sturgeon?
Mmm, I'm as anti-independence as just about anyone, and I've no time for much of her politics, however I do actually think she's a very honest, genuine person and if it wasn't for the independence thing I'd probably quite happily have her as Scotland's first minister. She also passes my "would she be an interesting person to have round to dinner" test.
Salmond on the other hand............whether guilty or innocent I do genuinely hope the truth comes out, but equally I find him to be a deeply unpleasant, arrogant, bullying bore. And a proven liar as the issue of legal advice proved. Then again if he has been falsely accused then I hope he gets thoroughly vindicated.
If it weren't for the horrible nature of the alleged crimes we'd be cracking open some fizz tonight. However rape, alleged or not, just isn't that funny.
The procurator fiscal must have good evidence for thee charges. Also contrary to someone above plea deals don't happen in Scots law
We will find out in time what the evidence is.