One of these smuggled away from Dad's stash then Ernie?
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Can of Tizer mate. The ol' man would give us a shilling to buy one. If it was Christmas.
What have kids got now, wall to wall tv,obesity,fast food,no jobs, debt,single parent families,living on benefits for being without a job,probably a war with someone in the next few years,and massive unemployment.
ISTR growing up against a background of substantial unemployment, massive interest rates, copious industrial action, regular power cuts and the threat of nuclear armageddon. I'd say things aren't so bad now 🙂
You appear to be suffering from false memory syndrome Mike D. The last time there was "regular power cuts" there was also [i]substantial less[/i] unemployment then there is now. In fact about 1.5 million less unemployed.
Plus interest rates were very high in the 1980s, when there was very little in the way of industrial action.
And since none of what you describe can be said of the 50s and 60s, plus the period before that pretty much predates the nuclear era, I don't know what decade you think you can remember.
when i was a kid my grandad didn't have email so couldn't send me things like the OP. or emails about muslims in tescos, the great work of Joe Arpaio or copy and paste jokes of little humor.
I don't know what decade you think you can remember
Quite possibly bits of several, I never said all that stuff happened at the same time 😉
[edit: or in that order...]
I think this mindset is more of a human condition when reaching a certain age rather than the actual reality.
[i]“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.” [/i]
- Attributed to Socrates
^ WINNING POST 😀
when I was a kid my Dad used to take me to racing circuits to watch the touring cars. next weekend I'm taking him. how things have changed!
geminafantasy has hit the nail on the head..
the doors of your perception have shifted and you've been too busy to notice..
I never said all that stuff happened at the same time
You spent a bleedin long time "growing up", as you put it.......it seems to have spanned at least 20 years.
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”
- Attributed to Socrates
Your point caller?
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Your point caller?
really..!!?
the point is very plainly that testosterone diminished old fools start whingeing bleakly about the hopeless plight of yoofs from the first moment that they coweringly choose a comfortable shoe over a pie and a scrap..
and so it has always been..
it seems to have spanned at least 20 years.
About 18, as I believe is traditional 😉
Emsz - that was the year I discovered MTBing - I was 29 😥
How things have changed...youth of today want to break rules, disrespect their elders, forge their own identity and don't understand the values we aspired to at that age...
...it's all BS. If anything the middle class parents have become more conservative, fearing pederasts behind every lamp-post. The kids are alright, they cannot screw things up more than our generation has - anyone who'd seen the footage of our PM off his long haired norks raving during the summer of love cannot fail to feel a little cheated.
About 18, as I believe is traditional
You remember from your first few hours of life the Cuban Missile Crises and how the world was on the verge of nuclear war in the 1960s, through the period of detente in the 1970s, and the power cuts of that same decade, then the mass unemployment of the 1980 and 90s, and the sky high interests rates that went with it ?
I'll take back everything I said about you having a poor memory - you obviously have an amazing, almost unbelievable, memory.
I'm also unimaginably impressed how as a toddler you were so clued up on current affairs.
'twenty years ago' is always seen as better than today.
it's False nostalgia. Don't forget you were a lot younger, had a different life, fewer responsibilities and probably a much more optimistic/naive world view.
IMO live for today and stop regretting a past that never was.
I think it's pretty poor form to complain about relatively marginal stuff like playing in the fields when we live in one of the richest, healthiest and freest countries in the world without anything like the problems of most people in most other countries...
You could always move to Syria, or Greece, or Israel, or North Korea, or Zimbabwe...
Only read the first thread ... so ...
The problem is the parental skills ... you are the parents now so no one to blame.
To quote mate: " children are born to be disciplined ... they are put in their place ... "
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I'll take back everything I said about you having a poor memory - you obviously have an amazing, almost unbelievable, memory.
Is it possible that you're maybe taking this excessively seriously?
Although FWIW I was thinking more of early-80s Reagan era Cold War than Cuba. Which I think brings me into the realms of rememberability 😉
Is it possible that you're maybe taking this excessively seriously?
Unlikely. Specially in light of your constantly shifting narrative.
In fact I'm struggling rather hard to take you very seriously.
My parents used to worry about me playing in the streets in the late 60's. Warnings not to get into strange cars.
Looking back in my 20's I realised they were worried because we were in Hindley and Brady's neck of the woods. 😯
Rest of the time it was setting fire to things, building dens and sliding down the old railway embankment on fertiliser bags.
...it's all BS. If anything the middle class parents have become more conservative, fearing pederasts behind every lamp-post. The kids are alright, they cannot screw things up more than our generation has - anyone who'd seen the footage of our PM off his long haired norks raving during the summer of love cannot fail to feel a little cheated.
Interesting!
You rarely see kids climbing trees, playing football on the street, soon to be traffic calmed to 20mph max,groups of children sitting on a neighbours wall are now seen as thuigs or muggers,nicking apples from a orchard is seen as theft,kids dont walk anywhere, theyre chauffer driven,some have never met their dad,like TJ said parents are over protective and keep the kids locked in like prisoners, bribed with food,pop and computer games to stop them going out,where a lot of them interact over a keyboard and not in real life with each orther and older people.
Jesus what a load of bollocks
Kids today are as lazy, rude, selfish and smelly as they've ever been
Parents today react in exactly the same way towards news, trends and technology as they've always done
Most things haven't really changed, but there were a hell of a lot less cars around when I was growing up, born in 73.
anyone who'd seen the footage of our PM off his long haired norks raving during the summer of love cannot fail to feel a little cheated.
that's about his only saving grace I reckon..
although it would seem that not even such a beautiful and miraculous event as the ecstasy explosion can soften the vile reptilian hide of a born Tory..
[i]There was never any more inception than there is now,
Nor any more youth or age than there is now;
And will never be any more perfection than there is now,
Nor any more heaven or hell than there is now[/i]
Copy this & send it to all your friends!
What have kids got now, ..,no jobs
That's because houses aren't built with coal fires today, so no chimneys for them to sweep. Instead they just persisit with endless pointless trolling on the internet
that's just a myth which has existed for as long as I can remembe
It was always better back then - I can just imagine the conversation
"This broze stuff is just crap, remember when it were all stone, stuff lasted then, do you see caves made of bronze, no they don't last, stone age technology, that's what we want none of this bronze age rubbish"
You never hear single celled amoeba complaining about how great things were back then and kids nowadays, do you? QED
ahhh, nostalgia, just not what it used to be
do you see caves made of bronze
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20 years ago was much the same as now, except the bikes and computers were rubbish.
20 years ago was much the same as now
I had a full head of hair!
Are cubs and scouts still armed? 30 years ago we were equipped with a sheath knife and hand axe at the very least, and usually a felling axe too. I don't recall any serious injuries.
Mind you, a kid got stabbed at my school, and the perpetrator just got expelled, no police involvement, nothing in the papers, despite it being one of the best schools in the county. The little sh!t obviously hadn't been in the scouts.
Rickets, do the kids up North still get them?
Polio, not much of that about now either, nor thalidomide..
Got the cane at school for an uncontrollable fit of giggles in general studies in the library.
Coppers would clout you round the head and send you on your way if they caught you after chucking rocks at them.
Pervs were dealt with a tad more harshly
As Scouts we did have knives and a hand axe on a belt, but felling axes were only handed out at camp.
My old man got a good telling off when I had all the dustbin men cowering behind their cart with my air gun.
Building Soap Box carts and tracks with banked turns (now called berms) was all the rage and required bunking off from afternoon school, noone seemed that bothered
Deciding wether to ride your motorbike with or without a helmet was rightly your choice at 16 as was riding a 1000cc Indian with a sidecar on an L plate.
Beating up moddie ruperts was mostly only frowned on by Coppers since they all rode proper bikes so were 'greasers' off duty and mods took purple hearts so were druggies anyway, so it was open season when they came down to the coast at weekends.
Yep there was definitely more freedom in my sixties youth, I wouldn't want to be young today.
My old man got a good telling off when I had all the dustbin men cowering behind their cart with my air gun.
Oh but how you must've all laughed about it afterwards, eh ?
Yes mate, spot on - they don't let kids enjoy the simple things in life anymore, like what we did.
Loads of kids playing out in the street and woods round my way too. Have any of the moaners actually met a kid lately?
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My old man got a good telling off when I had all the dustbin men cowering behind their cart with my air gun.
Oh but how you must've all laughed about it afterwards, eh ?
Yeah - as if, i was ducking him for weeks after that, even i wondered why I was so stupid, but it just seemed a laugh at the time, think what would happen to a kid who did that now, armed response, the kid in care, the old man probably in jail..
Yeah - as if, i was ducking him for weeks after that
Really ? He didn't arrange for the local bobby to come round and give you a good ol' fashion clip round the ear ? How strange 😕
Tell me more about 'chucking rocks at coppers' and how 'pervs were dealt with'. That sounds fascinating.
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Derek griffiths
Oliver Postgate
etc
People I seriously admire not some names that pop up in the tabloids every day hey. I have no idea how to even start to respond to this
you can't get a decent Oz of red seal for love nor money round this way any more..
Brian Cant http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0134454/
Derek griffiths
Oliver Postgate
Johnny Ball.
Tony Hart.
Brian Cant http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0134454/
Derek griffiths
Oliver Postgate
Johnny Ball.
Tony Hart.
Jimmy Saville
Gary Glitter
I do wonder, y'know, if the 'yoof of today' would be a lot more pride-inducing if the adults of today hadn't spent the last fifteen years repeatedly telling them that that they're all scumbags that will never amount to anything.
Don't like the state of the nation and how the kids are behaving? It's your own fault.
Also,
I don't think the world is any more dangerous for kids now than it's ever been. As Yunki so helpfully demonstrates, we're simply much better at reporting it and sensationalising it, even when there's not actually any evidence to back it up.
"Likes children" = "good parent."
"Likes children" + slightly eccentric" = "nonce."
But back in the day
"Likes children + slightly eccentric + 44 years old and still lives with his mother and collection of specialist porn" = "scout master"
Hmm, I wonder how this conversation would be going in the catholic priests' school?
