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It was basically two effing great big engines with a bloke strapped to the front and the smallest compliment of missiles it could get away with hanging off it.

Scary fast but scarily short legs.

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Holden knows all about how fast a Ligthning can be[/url], yikes!

And what is was all about, [url=

again!).


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 4:39 pm
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queen of the skies

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from a tornado on the wing, mont blanc poking its head out through the clouds behind


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 4:45 pm
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Aye, that it was. Airframes took a right pounding as well, hence the relatively short service life.

Short legs is right enough (40 seconds full re-heat = no fuel left) crap radar, crap avionics. Is was the epitome of Take off - Shoot - Try to get back.


 
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the epitome of Take off - Shoot - Try to get back.

Nope, that would be the [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_163 ]Me-163[/url]


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 4:48 pm
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Reminds me of the early 80's when I was assembling and wiring up the weapon control system for the Jaguar. A difficult, but satisfying task.

In the days when we still made things!


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 4:53 pm
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sockpuppet - Ah, the Vickers Funbus. The only aircraft I know of with a urinal for three on board.

Bloody noisy all those Conways.


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 4:55 pm
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The one that dosnt exist.....
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Posted : 17/03/2009 5:00 pm
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Aurora? Of course it exists...! Only they don't keep it in Area 51. That would just be daft, as everyone would look for it there.

It's next door, in Area 53. 😉


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 5:09 pm
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CFH - Apparently Area 51 is a ruse, all the real secret stuff happens in the UK.

[url= http://robocat.users.btopenworld.com/bases.htm ]Tin foil hats to maximum[/url]


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 5:16 pm
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Let's go rotary...one for RudeBoy here...

(Sees HIND-D, wets himself...)

Funny, 'cos as opposed to War, Death and Destruction as I am, I find a strange beauty in Warplanes. I spose it's maybe some primeval instinct thing; the ultimate weapon.

SR-71s are so mental, that when they're on the ground, they leak, apparently, as the Titanium plates are made just a tiny fraction too small, and don't meet up propply. Because when it's at speed, the friction with the air heats the plates up so much, they expand, and lock together. Having them meet perfectly, whilst stationary, would mean that the plates would buckle at Mach-stupid, and the plane would fail.

I was well into warplanes as a kid. My mum thought it was unhealthy.

Personal faves are the Rockwell B-1, and the Harrier Jump-Jet.

Also like these:

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Grumman F-14 Tomcat Terror

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McDonnel Douglas F-15 Eagle

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SAAB Viggen (Grippen in front; not as nice imo)

Nasty 'orrible things, the lot of 'em....


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 5:17 pm
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[b]I want, need and must have an Ekranoplan.[/b]

I think that is a perfectly reasonable demand.


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 5:18 pm
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Mattoutandabout. That's not a Sea King, it's a Sea commando


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 5:21 pm
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sootyandjim, that site is a hoot! one to look over properly later! Tin-foil-tastic!


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 5:21 pm
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I believe the Aurora actually lives in Scotland most of the time, with over the north sea being its chosen route to Afghan.........


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 5:25 pm
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Liking planes as a child is unhealthy?

*stealthily shuffles large pile of "Defence Recognition Journal" from late 80's/early 90's into a far less obvious place than on desk at work.*

Mind you, when in the RAF cadets, I was shit hot at NATO and Russion/Warsaw Pact recognition. And airshows were cool. I defy anyone to say they weren't.


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 5:33 pm
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These are real aircraft!! I seem to grow up with many of these, remember the Tornado coming out and now have a look in one, like an old BL Marina, Some of the new stuff is slick (not cool) but they don't really fly (wouldn't without major computer input) so not sure they full count either. One of the coolest threads yet but have a feeling only the oldies will appreciate. And if you are into to this lot what about real racing cars!? Lotus 41 etc... and 60s 70s LeMans racers. I think I missed my age? But no mountain bikes either, I reckon most of us would have been out there rallying, trialing etc.. all a bit expensive and silly now. thanks to all who put up those great phots


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 5:37 pm
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Bzzzzzzzttt!

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Posted : 17/03/2009 5:49 pm
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Liking planes as a child is unhealthy?

Not so much planes themselves, but warplanes. My mum was a little girl during WW2, and warplanes were not something to be 'admired', considering the terrible devastation they can cause. I can see her point.

Therefore, I find my own fascination with them all the more stange. I do try and 'unimagine' the war bit, though, and see them more as pieces of engineering technology.


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 5:57 pm
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When I was a kid we used to get just about every plane in the NATO inventory buzz our house** (never an SR-71 though... :-(). We were no where near an air base - just on a route to and from their playgrounds I guess. I never got bored of it and I sort of miss it these days...

** Meltham near Holmfirth, Huddersfield.


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 6:02 pm
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Same here with the cadets... Every summer I'd get packed off to some RAF station for a week in a thinly disguised attempt at recruiting.

All the same, it was ace. Went to Germany for a week one year (saw lots of Tornados), Somerset (saw lots of radars and comms equipment), Linconshire (saw lots of Tornados, but different versions) and Norfolk (saw bugger all, broke my arm). As a kid, all that tech was fantastic and really did make me want to fly jets. Alas, it was not to be.

I still like them though and envy Larry Ellison's ability to buy them as toys. Swine


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 6:10 pm
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Have we had the Starfighter? Or the Sabre. Both pretty cool. Was at Riat about 10 years ago and a Hind spat bloomin great fireballs of anti HSM flares out ofits side pods. We were in feild under the flight line and the Hind was about 500 ft up . I almost started to run for cover, blazing balls of magnesium raining down at me .
B52?


 
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One taken by me, not very good, but we did touch on choppers.


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 7:15 pm
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Oh my God, what a thread! Thank you guys, for keeping it going, and putting up so many cool pics. Living on RAF Lyneham's flightpath, I've seen many aircraft going in and out on 'circuits and bumps' and been to quite a few airshows over the years; Farborough, Fairford, Kemble. The Vulcan has to be one of the most spine-tingling planes to see in the air, coming in low and slow in full dirty configuration, wheels and flaps, down, airbrakes open, then everything coming up, nose coming up almost 45 degrees, and full re-heat on. Nothing compares. I saw a Buccaneer come in low and fast on a wet day, at around .9 Mach, with only it's wingtips nose and tail pod poking out of a compression cloud. I used to regularly see a Vulcan flying around with a big black box under it's belly containing the test engine for Concorde. On holiday at Llanstephan in Wales I used to watch A10's on gunnery ranges across the estuary. Amazing noise, like someone ripping corrugated metal. Anyone interested in the high-altitude aircraft should read Skunk Works about Lockeed's advanced development area and Groom Lake, Area 51, which has been moved into a really remote mountain area. When they developed the SR71 the technology was so new they had to first design tools to work Titanium because no-one had ever touched it before. Fascinating stuff. That radio conversation about decending from 78 to 50-odd thousand feet, makes you wonder if it might not have been Aurora, there have been numerous reports of black 'triangles' making smoke-ring exhaust trails, which sounds like some sort of pulse rocket motor. The Yanks almost certainly have a replacement for the Blackbird, as satellites cannot be moved quickly or cheaply enough, after all it was seventeen years before they owned up to the Wobbly Goblin, the F117A.


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 7:29 pm
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Who's posted the mega pic? Why is this thread taking so long to load?

(Switches to Manual Mode)

If you are going to go the rotary route then it starts and finishes with the mighty wokka.

That is quite possibly very true...


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 7:38 pm
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This is the ultimate copter

Mi24 hind, beast of a thing

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That was until the afgans got hold of some stingers when the ruskies invaded Afaghanistan and blew all of them out of the skies!!!


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 7:56 pm
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Allways thought the F16 Fighting Falcon was the prettiest:

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.....kinda reminds me of the Angels:

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Spectrum is green!


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 7:57 pm
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(Sees another HIND-D, wets himself again...)


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 7:58 pm
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I am liking this one

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Bristol 188


 
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14155842 bytes seems a liiiiiiittle big for that picture... Don't want to get it removed, but could someone change it to a jpeg and repost it? It's MAHOOSIVE!


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 8:02 pm
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There were some fantastic F-16 variant s designed and many were built and tested as well. Delta wing versions, a huge droop-snooted version, a forward swept wing version...etc.


 
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14MB????????

What's it's resolution, ffs?? That's enormous!

Too late mate. S'probbly gonna bork the STW server, now.


 
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Sorry my fault, linked the wrong version, ive removed the original now, will that solve it?


 
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Yeah, love the F16 - very pretty.

Also remember seeing the SU27 (I think) doing the 'cobra' at Farnborough - basically it flies slower and slower at a very high alpha (is that the correct term?) then it goes past vertical and comes back again in a 'snake strike' kind of style.

Just gonna see if I can find it on YouTube.

By the way, love the NSFW low-flying Spitfire clip: watched it loads of times and it always makes me smile!


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 8:19 pm
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Yeah i saw that at Waddingham i think, they had a pair of Flankers.


 
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Found it!

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Posted : 17/03/2009 8:21 pm
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Wow! It's still going....! This is amazing.

How about a little monster that trained the pilots of the day? The wondrous, wondrous JP!

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Posted : 17/03/2009 8:27 pm
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[url] http://www.starfighters.nl/ [/url]

I remember seeing these at Greenham Common airshow and they were fabulous - oh the howl from them as they went over the fence!


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 8:54 pm
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When planes were big and ugly... but still quite cool.

Sea Vixen
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Javelin
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Corsair
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Posted : 17/03/2009 9:02 pm
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re. B-36. Six turning, four burning evolved into "Four turning, two burning, two smoking, two joking" 😀


 
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Completely forgot my favourite...Intruders were beautiful. Still love those shots in flight of the intruder of the carriers with a mixed deckful, F-14's, Hawkeyes, Intruders, + more.... Cant find any pics online though. 🙁


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 9:57 pm
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How about a few transport planes? Antonov An-225...

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Posted : 17/03/2009 10:23 pm
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This thread has truly amazed me!

My thanks to everyone involved so far. Wonderful!

Keep 'em coming, though!


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 10:31 pm
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[i]Keep 'em coming, though! [/i]

<Goes off to dig out complete 1st series of Take Off magazine>

😉


 
Posted : 17/03/2009 10:35 pm
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Another airplane nut here 🙂

My personal favourite:

Su-27 (In Ukranian camo)
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Posted : 17/03/2009 10:49 pm
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C17 Globemaster III

Saw one at high altitude today and it looked so meaty compared to the airliners flying at that height.

Oh and I just love this pic...

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