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Every school day afternoon a woman parks near my home and sits there idling her engine, while waiting to pick up her 2 small children.
I asked her very politely to switch it off.
Woman - I'm on the phone.
Me - can you just switch it off please,
Woman - I'm on the phone.
Me - could you just switch if off please, it's an offence to idle your engine.

She refuses.

A few days later I see her again.
I ask her to switch off her engine and show her a poster written by a young school child, which asks motorists near school to switch of their engines and not pollute the area.
Woman - You're rude, can't you see I'm on the phone.
Me - could you switch your engine off please.
Woman - it's one of those engines that switches off after a minute.(I'd seen her for longer than that sitting there with it running)
Woman - I pay my car tax you know.
Me - could you switch off your engine please.
Woman - get a life.

I see her again today she's followed me to her car as I'm walking home.
Woman - you're so rude. I saw you at the food and drink festival, eating food, you didn't seem to care that the food was from a generator.
Me - (I was standing there in disbelief) all I did was ask you to switch off your car engine.
woman - you (pointing her long talon into my face) need some hobbies.
Me - I have hobbies thank you, this is why I'm the size I am (I'm now a bit ashamed of saying that, one never knows if someone is overweight because of ill health).
She's standing there in the road shouting at me in front of her 2 young children. The grandmother turns to me and says not in front of the children, but doesn't say a word to her daughter who is almost bursting a blood vessel telling me all my faults and what I should do with my life.

I've written to the head of the school, who was great and is sending out a letter to all parents. The head apologised and said the school doesn't tolerate that kind of behaviour and she doesn't want the children having to breath in unnecessary fumes.

Yes I do now that the woman doesn't pay road tax (vehicle excise duty) but because she wouldn't let me get a word in edge ways I couldn't correct her.
I was shaking when I got home.
Yes I do care about our planet and yes I realise others do not.
However your funny retorts or advice would be gratefully accepted, because I am going to keep on asking her to switch off her engine.


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 7:20 pm
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Banana up the exhaust pipe?

Edit: That's not a euphemism.


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 7:24 pm
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Does she ever turn off her engine? Cos if she does, see if you can ram a potato or turnip up the exhaust.


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 7:24 pm
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Edit: That’s not a euphemism

it is now


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 7:27 pm
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Honestly, ask politely, if challenged explain why you think it’s important, then walk off and try not to let it bother you.

Repeat as often as you have the stomach for.

You are right, they are wrong, but you’re not likely to change their behaviour, sadly.

If it’s more important to you than that, start taking photos each day, document things and report them to the police once you have several examples. You may not, however receive an effective response. After all it took four months for them to tell me they could take no action after a selfish idiot physically pushed me out of the lane I was in with his moving car and I reported it.


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 7:29 pm
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You challenged a school run mum, oh my, you are lucky to be alive. There has been huge heated debates at a local primary that's down a tiny cul de sac near us - school rum mums insisting they must drive down the tiny road, blocking it, parking over the pavements, and not park 2 minutes walk away because they are busy.


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 7:35 pm
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Buy massive american pick up with enormous diesel engine. Tune the cr*p out of it. Follow her home, then do "rolling coal" right outside her house and see how she likes that!

sorted.....


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 7:48 pm
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Tell her that even Boris Johnson wouldn't shag her. That will give her pause for thought.

As an aside, can I ask what car she drives? Place your bets here!


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 7:53 pm
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Phone the Police confidentially and say that the person in car X is taking pictures of kids outside a school..........


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 7:58 pm
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Do you have a chopsaw and some offcuts you could play with next to where she parks? Maybe an SDS drill and a lump of concrete you just need to chisel into dust?


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 7:58 pm
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A diesel. Always a diesel. Clattering away like a canal boat


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 8:01 pm
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Honestly, ask politely, if challenged explain why you think it’s important, then walk off and try not to let it bother you.

Repeat as often as you have the stomach for.

Ah yes, the best advice is always to tell you to do exactly what you described doing in your post!

My advice would be to move. You seem to have an abundance of shitty people surrounding your house going by the threads you start 😂


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 8:06 pm
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Check Mumsnet for mirror thread..
Skinny weirdo stalker is obsessed with my car engine


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 8:07 pm
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Is it not illegal to be using a phone in the drivers seat of a car with the engine running?


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 8:17 pm
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When some chump in a van was sat outside my house with the engine running I went out and told him to turn it off, which he did without question. However it was 5am, I was visibly angry and dressed in nothing but my pants. Maybe that approach could work for you?


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 8:36 pm
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Love the 'stuffing various garden veg and fruit up her exhaust'.

DezB - I only have one rubbish neighbour but they are attached to us. Anyone who lives near a school will have issues.

Sobriety - good point.

Another neighbour isn't so polite and has gone out, told her to 'switch off now'. She's been extremely rude to him.

I'm going down the being really nice route next time. Have a nice day, blow her kisses, apologise to her for the fact I love our planet, that kind of thing. It'll take her off guard.


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 8:40 pm
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Me – could you just switch if off please, it’s an offence to idle your engine.

Is it?

However your funny retorts or advice would be gratefully accepted,

If you're in a position to talk to her, you're in a position to pull the keys out of the ignition and drop them down the grate.

Is it not illegal to be using a phone in the drivers seat of a car with the engine running?

This. Take photo, report her to Crimestoppers (or at least tell her that's what you're going to do unless she stops being a dick).

In seriousness, I rather suspect that she's going to carry on doing it just to spite you and "win" now. Keeping a diary for a month is a good idea, times, dates, duration.


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 8:48 pm
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Sounds like she fancies you and keeps her engine running, as it were, to ensure a visit from you every school day.


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 8:51 pm
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Cougar - Rule 123 highway code - Not to idle your engine. It's a £20 fine.
However in Cheshire they've gone a step further and it's on the spot fine.
I'm on the Gter Man, Derbyshire, Cheshire border.

Edit : Lets guess which type of car she drives? Begins with N.


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 8:58 pm
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Nissan.... Leaf?😉


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 9:04 pm
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Nobhead?


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 9:06 pm
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Nissan Prairie?


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 9:39 pm
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Gotta be a qashqai


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 9:46 pm
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A Naudi?


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 9:47 pm
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Every school day afternoon a woman parks near my home and sits there idling her engine, while waiting to pick up her 2 small children.
I asked her very politely to switch it off.
Woman – I’m on the phone.
Me – can you just switch it off please,
Woman – I’m on the phone.
Me – could you just switch if off please, it’s an offence to idle your engine.

Phone Plod, that’s two offences and easily prosecution for them.

Then get on with your life.


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 9:53 pm
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Best to work with the school - maybe they can get some banners attached to gates/fences and flyers put in bookbags.

You could also print off the flyer at the link below and hand it to her directly.

https://www.cleanairday.org.uk/no-idling-toolkit-download


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 9:59 pm
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If you’re in a position to talk to her, you’re in a position to pull the keys out of the ignition and drop them down the grate.

Easy grandad. He never mentioned she was driving a classic car.

Keys pffft.


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 9:59 pm
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sits there idling her engine,

Woman – I’m on the phone.

Sorry, am I missing something here? It's quite obvious what you need to do...

Is this a trick question or something?

3 points on her licence will surely make her change her ways.

PS Good on you for challenging her. Stick at it.


 
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@ Rusty Spanner...
"A Naudi"
Brillant! 👍 😀


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 10:03 pm
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Well done for telling her off,I usually settle for giving them dirty looks as I walk past with the lad.

Suggest the school sends kids out to hand out leaflets to people with engines running?

I saw one school in MCR did that.


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 10:04 pm
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Have you explained to her why? I reckon the child in her is unwilling to be told what to do for no good reason. If you explain why, without being antagonistic or sarcastic and explain that you actually care you might get a reasonable response?

The way you've written it sounds like you're both just trying to wind each other up now but maybe you've not written the whole story word for word (which i'm not blaming you for, I just mean I don't know the whole story)


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 10:06 pm
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woman – you (pointing her long talon into my face) need some hobbies

I do have a hobby thanks, asking you to stop idling your engine😁


 
Posted : 30/09/2019 10:10 pm
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Gather evidence the n report to the police. 2 offenses every day will soon have her without a licence


 
Posted : 01/10/2019 12:50 am
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Woman – get a life.

Go ride your bike or something.


 
Posted : 01/10/2019 1:01 am
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Sh1t on her bonnet.


 
Posted : 01/10/2019 7:20 am
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Yup - two “absolute “ offences.
Both carry fines.
One carries points.
Report
Also launch her keys somewhere she will struggle to waddle to.


 
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A Naudi

Cracking pianist.


 
Posted : 01/10/2019 7:30 am
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Here in Sweden it is a social no-no on par with drink driving   (kind of) and it gets to minus 30c here (where the emmissions are worse)

I've seen Swedes grabbing keys out of people's cars that are just running and throwing them on the ground. Normally such passive folk.  Could be an alternative?

Welll done OP, keep fighting the good fight!


 
Posted : 01/10/2019 7:43 am
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Tell her that her reaction arouses you and that you really look forward to your daily social intercouse.

Ask her round for dinner and to wear a boiler suit as you have some interesting activities lined up.


 
Posted : 01/10/2019 8:53 am
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Get a friend involved and you both go over to ask her politely explaining it's illegal and that it's unnecessary.


 
Posted : 01/10/2019 9:36 am
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Have you considered dressing up as a ninja and running amok with a baseball bat,causing as much damage to the offending vehicles as possible?
I have. 🙂
I realise this is extreme - so I just got my son to petition the school green council.
The zombie kids protest for Halloween could be a goer this year!


 
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I was shaking when I got home.

You've done your bit. Phone 101 report what's going on, around here they will send a policeman out at some point to check whats going on. And then get on with your life, there more important battles out there to fight.


 
Posted : 01/10/2019 9:50 am
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Thanks for all the replies.

I do have a life full of hobbies, however one of them is to try and look after our planet.

This women does not let me talk. I have handed her a leaflet (written by a primary school child) she wouldn't even look at it.
Yes the conversation was all one sided because I couldn't get a word in.
She seems to think because she pays road tax its fine.
Another neighbour has also had abuse from her.
Some of the things she has shouted are quite mind boggling. The energy to turn of the engine is 1 calorie, the energy to shout and rant at a passerby must be 30 calories. She said I am the type that drives around looking for people who are running their car engines!
I had asked another lady further up the road who was really nice. She had no idea it was an offence and didn't realise she was polluting the very small children walking past the car and sitting in buggies almost at exhaust height.

I have been in touch with the head of the school, who is sending out a letter to parents. The headmistress has a walk and cycle/scoot to school policy, which has had very little take up. Sad really.

On Sunday a friend popped round to see us with his 4 year old, who had cycled to school everyday since starting. It's a shame there aren't more parents like him.

Edit: I'm actually walking to the shops when passing, I'm not actively going to stalk these 'school run' people.


 
Posted : 01/10/2019 10:05 am
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Another leaflet, blown up to A3 at least with a nice sticky glue on it and stick to her windscreen.


 
Posted : 01/10/2019 10:11 am
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Good job on getting somewhere albeit not direct action from the offender.
On a vaguely related note I found out recently that the official term of 'road tax' is back in use so that is not a valid point any longer. As with many on here it seems, I like to have things correct and I was having this debate with someone when I went online to prove the 'road tax' was wrong only to find that it had been reinstated. I have no idea when but I must have been in the last 18-24 month.


 
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