[Closed] What new car for £30k?

tony can you get a bike in a gt86?

Exactly...the same step uncle see to have an RS4. It was ace...he let me have a spin in it and I was amazed by it. That noise should not be emitted from a saloon car! Moved too. The interior with the Recaro bucket seats still looks good today.

There are loads of cars in budget that are better / more interesting than a Golf or an S3, all of which will lose you less money over three or four years; M3, M5, M6, Cayman S, 911 etc.

Even looking at something a bit more sensible, a 330 or 335 will be as quick if not quicker, sound better and cost you a lot less.

FunkyDunc - nail on the head. The GTi and S3 will be quick on paper, but will both be fairly bland to drive including the noise etc.

I know I've listed some serious machinery, but cars are getting so fast it's hard to enjoy them. Our 330 is pretty quick and is so happy at higher speeds it could easily get you into a lot of trouble. It sounds nice too. Evo always criticised the E9x M3 for this; it never came alive until much higher in the rev range which normally meant you were doing some fairly big speeds.

This is where things like the GT86 come in; great handling but with sensible power which means it'll feel like your using all the power without having to drive at silly speeds.

As others have said above, if your willing to lay out £420/month or thereabouts then you can get some seriously rapid and immaculate 2nd hand cars - my mate sold this 2007 ABT RS4 last year for £30,000 as he never had the time to drive it, Full ABT engine tuning/suspension/brake package and factory de-cromed without additional ABT badges so it didn't stand out or gather too much attention but absolutely nothing could touch it on the road or the few times we had it on the track, a lot of car for £30k considering it cost him £70k a few years ago and it only had 6000 miles/full service history on the clock. Hardly anyone can afford to run them as fuel is so expensive but for a four seater car it could certainly fly with the right driver.

Gaw'd i miss it, the engine noise, the howl of the V8, the way the seats inflated at speed to hold you in position, quite necessary at 180mph+ on the Nurburgring, driving my MK2 Golf afterwards was always a disappointment ..........but then again he should never have sold his short wheelbase Quattro Dialynx either.

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If you feel you could afford it then a good 2nd hand car is the way to go as you'll get so much more for your cash.

Hmmmm. That's lovely.

That V8 is a gem of an engine. It sounds like a muscle car but revs freely to 8,000rpm. Expensive to run, but a none modified one for less than £30k buys a lot of super unleaded.

They still look good - chunky but quite subtle at the same time. I still like the original B5 RS4; old yes, but it still looks purposeful.

I remember when this forum used to read the question and answer it.

From what I can see titus doesnt want some old german barge that has to taken to a specialist every year to be mot'd etc.... .

Was going to say 370z or Guilietta Cloverleaf.
For something different whats a fast Evoque cost these days or order up a new Mini Paceman.

Christ man, buy an old Honda and spend the money on bikes and bike holidays. You only live once and can't take it with you.

..and be able to take bikes and a young professional couple.

that's cheered me up...

So you want fastish, premium badge, good image, bike carrying. Surely a BM or Audi tourer ?

Mine is a company car, so not my cash to buy, but I had a 3 and now a 5 tourer and it does the job well. The prices are silly and if it was my cash I'd have a Skoda, but on a lease plan they'd probably fit your budget.

skoda

I've just ordered an A6 Avant Black Edition 3L V6 TDi 4WD with auto - just shy of £400 a month over 4 years with £2400 down.

Have to confess I'm stunned £30k gets you "just" an Golf GTI or an A3, result of the £ taking a hammering these past 5 years.

GBP hasn't taken a hammering, it's just corrected to a much more sensible value for our economy to work in a more balanced way (export trade and not just financial services).

I'd probably get a GTI. Though having seen what you can get secondhand, in your position I'd probably take out a loan for say 15-20k and buy a secondhand one that someone's kindly run in and had any manufacturing niggles sorted. That's what I did last time I bought a car (though with a smaller budget) rather than joining the company car scheme like most of my colleagues - still have that car, years after I left that job, still good fun to drive, costs me very little.

I love cars, (and don't begrudge the OP for wanting to spend that much while he can afford to, I would too) but would really struggle with spending that much each month and having nothing to show for it at the end. Why not pay that much on a loan and buy something 1 or 2 years old?...

...OR Buy [url= http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C391773 ]THIS[/url] and keep £8k aside for fuel.

@DezB not sure why you think £30k on a car is daft when you can spend £4-5k on a bike pretty easily. It's a bit off topic but mountain biking is as varied as car ownership, you can have cheap cheerful and effective or full bling with all variants in between.

@chiefguru - all my point was is that when I got my car 6 years ago € / £ was about 1.40 now it's 1.15 plus VAT is another 2.5% - all translates into much higher sticker price. IIRC to replace my car with similar one was £30k then to nearly £50k now, that's bonkers.

OP new Golf is very nice, I drove one. Audi very nice too, great quality but not quite as roomy especially back seats and boot.

Interesting thread. I've just spent this sort of money and I got a E350cdi estate, 6 months old and 5k on the clock. It cost (original invoice) £49k ( with lots of options). Lots of things to spend your money at this price point! I was looking at 530d's/535ds and A6 3.0tdi's. although I like Mercs.

Hang on...

I am an alfa nut at heart and would love to justify a [b]giulietta cloverleaf [/b]but having been slightly let down by the current alfa mito I have im struggling to want to live with one.

DO IT

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Had the hot(ish) diesel one as a hire car when I was back in the UK (interesting what "Golf or equivalent gets you, thanks AVIS!). I'd have one in a flash if I didn't need a 4wd for the sorts of holidays we go on here in Oz.

You need a ford fiesta. Push the boat out and get the Ghia.

Meanwhile, in a parallel universe...

OP: I only have one hand. Anyone know somewhere I can buy just one glove. I quite fancy a nice plush velvet one. Any ideas?

STW1: Why spend all that money on a glove? You can buy 5 pairs for £10 at Lidl

OP: But I only have one hand. What use is a *pair* of gloves? Plus, I work hard for my cash, so why shouldn't I have a posh glove?

STW1: OP, you're not listening. 5 pairs of gloves. That's, like, 10 gloves. For £10. Buy them, and spend the rest of your cash on guitar lessons.

OP: How would I play guitar with only one h...

STW2: Pfft. I wouldn't waste my time with gloves. Trousers is where it's at.

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What about a nice Volvo v40r
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Certainly no where near as common or mundane as a BMW,Vw,Audi.

A colleague just bought a BMW 335 M Sport, christ it's a lovely car, and for less than £14k.

[i]Meanwhile, in a parallel universe...

OP: I only have one hand. Anyone know somewhere I can buy just one glove. I quite fancy a nice plush velvet one. Any ideas?

STW1: Why spend all that money on a glove? You can buy 5 pairs for £10 at Lidl

OP: But I only have one hand. What use is a *pair* of gloves? Plus, I work hard for my cash, so why shouldn't I have a posh glove?

STW1: OP, you're not listening. 5 pairs of gloves. That's, like, 10 gloves. For £10. Buy them, and spend the rest of your cash on guitar lessons.

OP: How would I play guitar with only one h...

STW2: Pfft. I wouldn't waste my time with gloves. Trousers is where it's at.
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No, the analogy is wrong as he just wants to rent one ordinary glove, rather than buy a velvet glove for the same money.

Can never go wrong with an Audi rs3
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and that doesn't look ridiculous when I turn up at client sites in it.

Appreciate I'm not being helpful, but I do think some people in the marketing departments of mid-range car companies need to be paid a bigger bonus.

and that doesn't look ridiculous when I turn up at client sites in it.

In my experience, if I turn up to lient sites in a flash motor they start to question our profit margins!!

cbmotorsport - Member

and that doesn't look ridiculous when I turn up at client sites in it.

In my experience, if I turn up to lient sites in a flash motor they start to question our profit margins!!

I do agree with this - a close family friend does a lot of work with charities and the public sector and really wanted an E Class estate however decided that it was too flashy depsite being cheaper and more fuel efficient than the Audi he ended up with. The Audi just blends into the background.

If not upsetting clients is a major consideration, most of the cars I suggested would be best avoided! However if enjoyment / speed / noise are or more of a priority they'll do.

I know a few have gone off at a tangent (myself included) but I'd struggle to drop £30k on a Golf or an S3. They're just a bit bland and not all that quick. That sort of money opens up a lot of options that are genuinely quick and far more interesting.

Still think Hora has the right answer, Elise for giggles and something more practical for bikes/day to day. £30K for a Golf, no matter how good, just seems like bad value. FWIW, I wouldn't pay 5K for a bike either, so it's a personal call.

But then I do tend to think the answer to any car question is 'Elise' 🙂

and that doesn't look ridiculous when I turn up at client sites in it.

Since I don't own a car, I hire them if I have to visit a customer. Turned up for a meeting last week at O2 in a Fiat 500CC.

Just did my own research for the question I asked at the end of page 2. You can buy a 2yr old golf that would have been circa £28.5k new for £18.5k and expect to sell it in 3yrs for circa £12k i.e. £2k per year depreciation. £420pm for 3 yrs is >£15k. Plus the initial £3k. Jam today plus deflowering a virgin car rather than a 'preloved' one is costing you £2-3k a year. That's quite a difference I'd struggle to justify. Waiting until you have £18k in the bank and then saving the depreciation value to replace every 3yrs (or hold on to it if you still liking it and its not causing you problems) definitely makes lots of sense.

I test drove the new Golf GTI at the weekend and it is a very nice car. Fast, quiet, cheap to run (£125 pa road tax, 40mpg), and with comparitvely good residuals. No it is not hugely thrilling but on todays roads how often do you get to really enjoy a car.

I would love to have an M3 CSL, 2nd hand 997, Cayman etc but i only do about 4000miles a year and the running costs are huge, i need the practicality of something like a hatchback/saloon etc so cant justify one of them or running two cars like a Honda Jazz + Caterham Supersport so the Golf GTI is the sort of car i would consider in a similar postion.

The other is the BMW 328i M Sport - RWD, bit more power, bit quicker, slightly more expensive to run. However given how few there are i think the residual value would be poop although if you are on PCP that is less of a concern.

M135i running costs are significantly more than the Golf and although you cant see it while driving it i think it is fugly.

[i]but i only do about 4000miles a year and the running costs are huge,[/i]

Not if you only do 4k pa, it's the depreciation/finance that is huge.

Problem with an RS4 etc is that yes, it'd be flippin awesome but things like £1000 for new pads and discs just for the front (and another ~£700 for the rears) is slightly eye watering.

I'm just about too order a new Golf GTD, I did want the GTI but the monthly cost is almost £200 less for the diesel, I guess mainly due to the forecast residuals being much much better..

Doing 20K miles a year, and doing it in a 9 year old BMW 330i currently, moving to a brand new golf will be almost parity on cost for me, plus it will bring certainty to the running costs!

The Flying Ox - Member
Meanwhile, in a parallel universe...

OP: I only have one hand. Anyone know somewhere I can buy just one glove...

Summed up just about every single "What should x I buy?" thread. Why people still bother with them I do not know! 😆

diglover- I feel for you, diesel being the fuel of Satan, im not even looking at the comparison. No diesel ive ever driven or been in has been fun, impressive yes, but not fun

Waiting until you have £18k in the bank and then saving the depreciation value to replace every 3yrs

That's what I did - although I did take out a loan for some of it. Interest on loan is not massive, and I got a one-year-old car with 17,000 miles on it for £10,000 less than it would have cost new, and I will own all of it in a year or so's time all being well. (I just own the boot and back wheels so far, with a bit of transmission gubbins.)

Anyone who doesn't do that must have an awful lot more money going spare than I can ever hope to imagine —although I understand all too well that feeling of showroom fever after test driving a new car.

I actually went to look at a 2nd hand Mk6 Golf GTI (1 year old) before looking at a new mk7. But a low milage Mk6 was still about £22k, a new Mk7 starts at £25.5k my thinking is that in a years time when 1yr old mk7 are available that the Mk6 will have taken a big hit in depreciation.

I have not bought either but i am trying to decide if the 1yr depreciation on buying a new mk7 now is more or less than 2 tyres (£600) + front discs and pads (£500) + possibly a clutch (£???) on my current car.

EDIT: my local BMW dealer is currently doing 5yrs 0% which has given me food for thought as well

M135i running costs are significantly more than the Golf and although you cant see it while driving it i think it is fugly.

They are indeed but I have a feeling that the looks will grow on people. I thought the E60 was a pig when it first came out but it's aged really well and I now really like them!

If the M135 is as good as the reviews say and the deals are as good as they are rumoured to be, I think I could get past the looks. In estoril blue its not too grim...certainly better than the poverty spec 116's that are now quite common.

Don't know if it's been suggested because I couldn't be bothered to read know it alls suggesting a focus and a caravan but what about a scirocco R or the new Golf R which is close to release?

be able to take a young professional couple

love this unit of measurement!

Here is a photo of us with our young professional friends!

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Love it 🙂 (I could have chosen my words more carefully but was just trying to convey, no kids, not chavvy - I think everyone got the idea)

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I agree the M135 looks better than a boggo 1 series, it sounds great is RWD but it aint as affordable as the reviews make out.

The reviews all appear to compare a fully specced golf (DSG, Leather, Sat nav etc) against the M135i in base spec. To my mind if you were looking to purchase a golf with all the kit you would do the same with the M135.

There is about £6k difference in base price (£25.5 v £31.5) and this is maintained if they are specced similarly. For me the M135i will be comparable to the new Golf R when it is released next spring.

that's what I quite like about the audi, only gives away 16bhp to the bmw, and looking at the configurator the bog standard spec is absolutely fine for me - supposedly the turn in is much sharper than the previous models too

Whereas VW + performance + dampers comes in at more per month (lower balloon payment)

"VW + performance + dampers"

Same spec i was looking at, plus historically bluefin remaps are about £400 and should get the golf to 300+ BHP given it is an evolution of the previous R engine.

You're going to take a big hit when she gets pregnant.....don't think it won't happen!
Have you tried getting a push chair into a golf 😯
Having said that, you'd be my personal hero if you bought that ferrari...

I was under the impression that the M135 was pretty well spec'd in its base trim? Leather is certainly standard.

Have VW improved the base spec of the Golf yet? I know when we were looking at Mk V's I couldn't believe the number of cars that didn't have cruise control / multi-function steering wheels.

Titus - the Audi may be close to the BM on paper, but I would imagine that to dirve they will feel very differnt. I've driven a few quick Audi's and the only one that I warmed to was the RS4. The S3 I drove was quick but dull as was the 3.2 Quattro.

I know the M135 is the car of the moment and beemers generally drive and handle well.

however, me and the wife both irrationally dislike them and that's that 🙂

although ijs445ra you are obviously welcome to buy one!

Yes Golf has multi-function steering wheel, cruise control, parking sensors which show on screen, touch screen thing for drive control and stereo etc, bluetooth, ipod connectivity and of course cup holders x2

(I could have chosen my words more carefully but was just trying to convey, no kids, not chavvy - I think everyone got the idea)

Yeah, but it made you sound right ****y in the process....

Ha Ha i did buy one sort of, current car is an Alpina (it is not a BMW honest) 👿

A bloke I used to work with had a 1-series and whenever we used to get lifts in it (normally to the pub on a Friday lunchtime) it always amazed me how BMW had made such a reasonably sized car so small on the inside.
I'm a short arse and could barely fit in the back. And it wasn't like they sacrificed rear legroom for bootspace, because that was tiny as well.

If it needs to have any sort of practicality, you might as well forget the 1-Series. Might as well get a TT or something....all IMO of course.

A bloke I used to work with had a 1-series and whenever we used to get lifts in it (normally to the pub on a Friday lunchtime) it always amazed me how BMW had made such a reasonably sized car so small on the inside.
I'm a short arse and could barely fit in the back. And it wasn't like they sacrificed rear legroom for bootspace, because that was tiny as well.

If it needs to have any sort of practicality, you might as well forget the 1-Series. Might as well get a TT or something....all IMO of course.

The new one series is bigger - although BMW are masters of the reverse tardis (i.e. big on the outside and teeny on the inside). The Golfs that we looked at felt bigger inside than the 3 series that we ended up buying.

Titus - I genuinely think that you would be mad not to at least look at an M135. Even just to be 100% sure that its not the car for you.

Yes Golf has multi-function steering wheel, cruise control, parking sensors which show on screen, touch screen thing for drive control and stereo etc, bluetooth, ipod connectivity and of course cup holders x2

Glad to hear that VW are finally sorting their base spec out.

I just had a quick look on auto trader and there is a private sale 20 miles from me selling a 2005 3.5L SLK with 47k on the clock, absolutely mint, for £8000.

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£8k is pretty much pocket money if you're planning on spending £450 a month for 4 years.

That SLK looks amazing for the money...I wonder what it would be like to actually own an expensive car of that age?

@ijs445ra - Cayamn has 2 yr service intervals, about £400 pa equivalent, road tax hefty at £400pa but comparable to other performance cars, insurance ditto. Not expensive to run.

When the OP posted I looked up the price of a new Cayman but it's closer to £40k so I didn't propose one, it also fails the humble" test for client visits 8)

@mindmap - I think a Gof is bigger on the inside than a 3 series, it isn't an illusion

I'd not buy brand new though but I guess the whole PCP thing rules out second hand

PCP is also available on used cars up to 5 years old. I'm sure VW have a maximum start age of 5 years and a maximum end age of 7 years.

My contribution because I'm bored whilst recovering from a hernia operation:

I bought a 2008 BMW 335d coupe with 63k on the clock, full service history, all the toys (...and a detachable towbar!) for £12k.

Spent £300 getting it remapped to 345bhp and 500ft/Lb of torque, it's mental. I love it.

Got a loan for 18 months then it's mine, all mine!

Whether the OP buys brand new or not, I cannot recommend a BMW enough and my engine is a piece of cake to work on so I can save oodles of dosh on maintenance 🙂

Have a wife, kid, two bikes and a bike rack. We opted for a BMW 320d Touring, but frankly wish I had got a Golf. Golf MK5 Diesel best car I have ever had, whereas the BMW is just the most expensive. Drives well and engine is powerful, but there are problems with the cam chain on this model of engine, which is frustrating/surprising as the 2 litre diesel is on so many of their cars. Also other niggles have cropped up, which just annoy at a car of supposedly this quality.

Not sure where to go from here, we bought it 2nd hand (I know the previous owner), 1st service is coming up (has done 20k) and my big worry is the engine issue coming up outside warranty (we have another year of warranty left). Seems crazy to spend £5k + repairing a car that will only be worth £15-£10k at a guess, so wondering whether to get ride of it now. Shame as we have only had it since Christmas 2012. Cam chain part has already been replaced by original owner at less than 7k miles, 2nd one needed now and the car is not even 2 years old.

Saw a new GTI at Goodwood and to be honest it looked like my kind of car. Fast, not stupidly expensive, fits actual people/bikes inside and they are well made. Also looked like it had a lot of stuff included in the price.

Seems crazy to spend £5k + repairing a car that will only be worth £15-£10k at a guess

It's not, really. You could spend £5k and get a car you know has had the issue fixed and is in good shape, whereas you could spend three times that and get a car that could just as easily fail.

Cars are not investments, they are tools to use, and they WILL need money spending on them. Buying a different one is no guarantee it won't go wrong.

Only chop it in if it's a REAL turkey with constant electronic issues etc.

molgrips, I appreciate your point - better to have a car that you know is well maintained and know the history, than a wild card.

However, the issue has been repaired once, needs to be repaired again and my concern is that it will need to be repaired a 3rd time outside of warranty.

I know that you will have to spend money on any car, but this will be expenditure on top of the normal costs of running a car, which I am not so keen on. The chain cam part is not expected to be replaced pre 200,000 miles/life of the engine, hence the location at the back of the engine and overall expense.

having said all that, it might be best just to chance it - if it doesn't fail, I'm quids in. If we sell it, well there will be the depreciation in the period that we have owned it and replacing it with anything that is of a similar age is going to be almost as expensive and therefore require more outlay, unless we go for something that is 'good/better value' (I would happily have a Skoda Octavia, VRS or regular, but the wife won't).

However, the issue has been repaired once, needs to be repaired again and my concern is that it will need to be repaired a 3rd time outside of warranty.

Not much of a repair then.. if it is indeed a design flaw then definitely get rid. Have you looked on the forums for more information?

Wow has its own facebook page.

I had searched the interweb on it before, but didn't realize it had its own facebook page. I think unfortunately it is a design flaw, but BMW are never going to admit it. I am a BMW fan, so I am not keen to knock them as a company, but it amazes me that such a popular engine can have ongoing problems for so long (I believe the engine has been around for a while and remember when looking at BMWs a dealer saying that he thought circa 80% of the cars he sold had the 2 litre diesel engine).

Massively annoying as we thought it was a good buy - I would rather have got something that was dull and reliable.

but did own a 2001 S3 and absolutely loved it, broke my heart when I sold it.

Same here mine was a 2002 but same difference, we had a fab day out at my daughters wedding on the proceeds. I think I got the best of the deal.... 😈

BMW are quite good at denying issues it seems. The engine in my 2004 320d touring went pop after it ate it's own swirl flaps. That was a costly fix and something BMW denied all knowledge of despite it being plastered all over the internet.

Actually, 6yr old RangeRover?

Hahahahah the best load of tosh he's come out with yet. A Range Rover out of warranty - good luck with that one...

I had an RS4 (a B7) and to be honest, for the running costs it didn't feel that quick. It also had the carbon build up issue which isn't a cheap fix and discs and pads (which you will get through at a rate of knots) are mega money. 4 tyres = £1600. Cheap it isn't

I had a test drive in a V8 M3 recently which was lovely but as you've mentioned not liking BMW's that rules it out.

Also had a Cayman and handling wise it was fantastic, just felt a bit under-powered. Mine was an S - looked nice, handled well, not that quick. And it liked a drop of oil too...

Me personally I'd have another Nissan 350/370z. They can't give them away at the moment and there's some really good deals about. Or get an R35 (and remortgage for running costs).

You really will be hard pushed to beat a Golf though. Brother has an R32 which whilst not mega quick on paper, makes a lovely noise, has loads of kit, will take two bikes easily and isn't that bad on running costs.

I owned a recent'ish audi s3 for 5 years, I'd say avoid them, they're fast but incredibly dull.

For that sort of money you could get (if you're very quick - before they all go) , a brand new e90/92 BMW M3 on lease, awesome car, a bit thirsty though.

In my opinion you should either put your very sensible head on and buy a diesel golf (or similar) boring car but cheap to run, and not spend anywhere near £450 per month. or really enjoy yourself and get the M3. IE No half measures like a golf gti/audi s3 or similar warm hatch.

Cant believe the number of people on here who think the only reason people buy a £30k car is to impress the neighbours, so blinkered! Do you spend £1k (or 5k) on your bike so you can impress your neighbours with their £100 bike shaped objects.

A Range Rover out of warranty - good luck with that one.

Plus 10000000000000000000000000

tonyd - just had confirmation BMW will not replace part (car is inside warranty) at the momemen, don't feel it is a sufficient problem.

makes me think it is indeed time to get rid. Might be fine for a long time, or it might not. Either way, bit of a gamble.

Well after driving all the contenders (well an A3 as S3 isn't around yet) golf GTI has come out on top by quite a large margin between the two of us. Now to haggle the hell out of the guy so it only costs 25K rather than nearer 30K

Now to haggle the hell out of the guy so it only costs 25K rather than nearer 30K

Good luck with that! If you manage it, please tell me how you do it...

And don't forget the pics.

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Only £229pcm and an £8k deposit, and after 3 years give back or pay £13k.

7.2ppm excess charge seems reasonable though.

But why do you need to get the purchase price down, when you're not buying it - just leasing it. Just focus on the deposit plus monthlies.

Interesting use of the term "Deposit" here which suggests you get your money back. It looks like a down payment to me? If so that £451 a month.

Dealer margins are about 2% on a new car, so unless the manufacturer is doing a discount, you won't achieve much haggle wise.....

I would drive everything else and then put your irrational dislikes aside for one hour and drive the M135i. It's a fantastic machine and there's some mega deals to be had on them - 15% off and 3.9% APR. It's no looker, but the drive and noise is just epic.

I went out to get one recently but ended up with a new M5, but that's another stpry..!

[i]Interesting use of the term "Deposit" here which suggests you get your money back. It looks like a down payment to me? If so that £451 a month. [/i]

Professional couples aren't interested in 'technicalities'... 🙂

Which is why, again, I suggested to just buy whatever they can 'afford' with the expenditure.

I return to this thread in shame...despite my earlier posts i have since ordered an M135i 😳

I drove it and pretty much instantly forgot the looks. As a drivers car the golf simply cannot compete. The M135i is as good as the reviews say, combine that with the best part of £5k discount (as a cash buyer) it worked out almost £2k cheaper than the Golf which will go a fair distance to off setting the higher running costs....arrives September cannot wait!

horrendously ugly, but Good choice I reckon.

My wife actually liked the look of it preferring it to the Golf and 3 series which leads to wonder on two things
1. Does she have correct prescription in her glasses.
2. WTF do I look like!

Probably too late to the thread, but if I had £30k burning a hole in my pocket i'd get a Jaguar XJ supercharged R

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Or more practically with the rubbish winters a range rover evoque

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