Well done Warsi!!
 

[Closed] Well done Warsi!!

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Nice to see a politician standing up for their beliefs

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28670421


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 10:51 am
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Did you spend yesterday in a cave?


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 10:53 am
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yes using her unelected high profile to good effect


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 10:53 am
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Oh come on !

Why resign now at the end of the conflict ? Why has she not spoken out in regard of the 170,000 deaths in Syria. What has she said about the 1,500 people the ****stani government has killed in it's latest offensive ?

She has been rightly criticized from with the coalition for her resignation as if she believes government policy is wrong she can do more to influence it from inside.

She has resigned as her government career as a senior Tory has been in terminal decline. Removed as party chairperson in 2012 and whilst she claims she was recently "cleared" in the expense scandal it was proven she claimed for hotel allowances whilst she was staying for free with a friend. That alone means her role within government was finished.

Her resignation has very little if anything to to with her beliefs.


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 10:57 am
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Why resign now at the end of the conflict ?

At the what now?


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 10:57 am
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Jambalaya you are brilliant.


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:00 am
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She has been rightly criticized from with the coalition for her resignation as if she believes government policy is wrong she can do more to influence it from inside.

The doctrine of collective responsibility means (or used to mean) that a member of the government who was not in conscience able to support the policy of the government was obliged to resign. Resignation because you don't agree with the outcome of a decision of the government that a member of the government continues to oppose is perfectly proper.


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:02 am
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OP really? bit of a shame in my book

i'd rather we had politicians that stood up and continue to fight the right cause, rather than resign before an upcoming GE and after she had been demoted

nice job in the HoL's on the cards?


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:08 am
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i refuse to subscribe to the notion that a broken clock is right once a day.


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:10 am
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Nice to see a politician standing up for their beliefs

Presumably, all the ones who haven't resigned are doing the same thing...


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:12 am
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nice job in the HoL's on the cards?

As nearly 3 seconds of googling would have confirmed, Baroness Warsi has been a life peer for years.


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:13 am
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i refuse to subscribe to the notion that a broken clock is right once a day.

Once a day?

And really? the end of a conflict? I doubt that very much. I mean good on them for managing over 24hrs without breaking an 80hr ceasefire but I very much doubt it'll be then end


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:25 am
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Jambalaya you are brilliant.

@Lifer. Thanks, even I am not obtuse enough not to spot that one. You really think she resigned on principal, really ? Robin Cook resigned on principle over the inavsion of Iraq. This lady has done no such thing.

@Jamie, the Israeli's have withdrawn declaring their own unilateral ceasefire and even Hamas have agreed. Unless Hamas start firing more rockets the conflict is over and we will return to the status quo. Hamas attack tunnels are destroyed as is 75% of their missile inventory.


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:29 am
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Warsi and Boris both timed their announcements with particular purpose - beliefs, pah! Career progression more like while Dave is showing off his new shirt in caiscais market.


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:29 am
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Fair play to wars I but its too late by far

400 children killed since the latest Israeli effort started

Its too late to save them ,

dont worry jambalya I'm sure your brave IDF heroes will probably still manage to kill a few more Palestinian babies before its all over


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:36 am
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Jambalaya - Why resign now at the end of the conflict ?

Do you know something we don't? Its all wrapped up then is it? Peace at last? No more war? Brill

Whats it like, being you?

Anyway... I noticed Gideon went out of his way to be sniffy and dismissive of her. So its clearly rattled Dave and chums. In case you noticed... in his last pointless, laughably transparent re-shuffle, the trick was a desperate attempt to look less like an Eton mafia, and be all cuddly and 'inclusive' with some of those 'wimmin' and... you know... darkies, n stuff.

Thats looking good this morning. What she said in her interview on Channel 4 news was worth listening too. The government says its committee to trying to stop Muslim youth being radicalised, yet is happy to sit back and fail to condemn Israel massacring muslim children. Doesn't really work that, does it?


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:37 am
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Did you spend yesterday in a cave?

Out on my bike for a lot of it actually, haven't been caving for years.

Pity jam-boy doesn't spend a bit more time in caves though :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:43 am
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As nearly 3 seconds of googling would have confirmed, Baroness Warsi has been a life peer for years.

True, although there's a little bit of a clue before you get to google!


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:50 am
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Why resign now at the end of the conflict ?

Excellent news, finally peace after 66 years!!

Well done Jambalaya, perhaps you can have a Nobel prize like Obama


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:52 am
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Well done Warsi

That's 3 words I never thought I'd see together.


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 11:58 am
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Hopefully the jews have finished their punishment massacre of the people of Gaza and will now just go back to treating the place like a massive concentration camp. As a nation with the best anti missile defense system in the world they have practically nothing to fear from Hamas strikes. Warsi went for her own ends but at least it's raised the point with the chinless wonders.


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 12:01 pm
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The government says its committed to trying to stop Muslim youth being radicalised, yet is happy to sit back and fail to condemn Israel massacring muslim

surely death prevents the individual becoming further radicalised.
and muslims dont get to be reincarnated afaik.


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 12:06 pm
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I'm going to be watching the media over the next few days for a fresh expenses scandal involving the good Baroness. Or maybe not, now that she's resigned.


 
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As nearly 3 seconds of googling would have confirmed, Baroness Warsi has been a life peer for years.

life peers don't automatically work at the HoL, but yes she is eligible to work there

although having paid researchers provide data for her written responses on the party line isn't quite such a toughie really

the question remains to be seen... nice [b]job[/b] in the HoL's on the cards?


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 12:15 pm
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Eh?

soobalias - I think she was referring to the Muslim youth of various British constituencies, already susceptible to radicalisation for a number of reasons, maybe taking offence at their government happily supplying arms to the people ruthlessly butchering their fellow muslims in Gaza. And seemingly 'intensely relaxed' (to use the Madleson-ism) about Israel indiscriminately massacring children, and keeping everyone else blockaded in a concentration camp.

In the past, they've been known to vent their righteous anger by being a bit, well... you know... shouty, and explodey. And any government that says its committed to trying to prevent radicalisation might be better off being a bit more balanced in its foreign policy


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 12:15 pm
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She has been rightly criticized from with the coalition for her resignation as if she believes government policy is wrong she can do more to influence it from inside.

Yeah, that's obviously worked brilliantly.


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 1:57 pm
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Have you not figured this out yet? Baroness Warsi clearly just did. How this coalition thing works? You don't get to influence a bloody thing unless you're a white, male, toff who went to school with Dave and George. Large donations to party funds don't go amiss either. Nat Rothschild springs to mind. Him and Gideon are quite pally, aren't they? All Bullingdon Boys together? He's an unabashed zionist and a multi-squillionaire financier. Ker-****ing-ching! You lot get on with murdering as many kids as you like!


 
Posted : 06/08/2014 2:11 pm
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Don't be silly binners there is no evidence to suggest any bias of the nature you suggest:

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Those fresh faced IDF recruits are all peaceful females and of course the Conservative Friends of Israel must be nice, they have friends in their name.


 
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oops meant to post in t'other thread


 
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i'm finding that i kind of agree with some of what Jambalaya said....whats wrong with me?!

Warsi should have been kicking off over this right from the very beginning!
i'm not sure whether her silence was due to her being gagged by her fellow "zionist appreciation society" members or whether she was just being ignorant to what was going on. if anyone could have made i difference in getting her colleagues to take notice, it would have been her.
i was disappointed to hear nothing from her since this fresh conflict began back in early July...but i do applaud her for finally having the guts to disassociate herself from that gang of crooks.
the British Muslim community will of course applaud her decision but there will be equal numbers asking why up until her resignation she had not done more, given her status and position.
personally i think well done Sayeeda but you should have been more vocal and done more before leaving.

as for the rest of what you said Jambalaya about it being the end of the conflict...i think you're talking utter tosh. its far from being over and wont be until the Israeli government is held accountable for its crimes at the War Crimes Tribunal and Israel is forced to return to the agreed 1947 borders...


 
Posted : 08/08/2014 12:30 pm
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...its far from being over and wont be until the Israeli government is held accountable for its crimes at the War Crimes Tribunal and Israel is forced to return to the agreed 1947 borders...

Ideally yes, but unlikely given Israel's expanding population. Personally I think sponsoring the creation of Israel after WWII was a massive mistake by the western powers. But, we are where we are and can't go back.


 
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then the South African model should be followed. dismantle the current Israeli government and create a new one elected from both the Israeli and Palestinian people...with a rewritten constitution.
re-name the country to the Democratic State of Palestine and Israel....and let the reconciliation process begin.
the IDF and the "military" wings of Hamas/Fatah should also be disbanded...with a significant UN peackeeping force to police the country through its transitional process.


 
Posted : 08/08/2014 1:00 pm