[Closed] Weight loss - 5.2kg in one week!

molgrips - Member

I'm not claiming to be special of course, but even if I were how would you know? You been doing muscle biopsies on me whilst I sleep?

Different muscle types utilise fatand and carbs differently, so I am told.

Really? new one on me.

...and I reckon that unless you're there at the end of a race, your sprinting ability is as yet unproven.

But just train as hard as you can manage.

You think this is as effective? If I set out to do maximal sprints and can't, am I wasting my time? After two weeks on the iDiet I couldn't sustain more than 15mph on the flat on my road bike, so I had to eat more carbs. After 3 months I still couldn't ride properly fast, so I started eating more chocolate, I got fast and lost another 2kg.

3. well do away with the magic beans and eat normal food

What do you think I was doing for the previous 34 years of my life? Do you think I started on a diet for the hell of it? Did you read me arguing with idave page after page when it first was posted on here?

5. Why would someone else's training plan interest me?

You bloody well tell me, you're joining in the argument. The point is that 6-9 hours can be enough to get much quicker. I don't have 20 hours, so that's the only approach open to me.

You seem to be constantly looking for a quick fix

I want the most effective way for me to lose weight and get fast. Not such a ridiculous thing to be looking for, is it? Or should I be doing the same shite, following the same plan I was for years and seeing no results?

and I reckon that unless you're there at the end of a race, your sprinting ability is as yet unproven.

I've not claimed to be good at it.

EDIT not claimed to be good at cycling sprinting. I'm quite quick on foot though.

1) Good... so do it.
2) Good... don't do it.
3) Do some training not just the occasional bit of exercise.
4) LOL.
5) I have. I've also spoken to him about it. He's dedicated and has a will to succeed that you appear to lack.
6) An excuse to stay overweight. Or, have you thought about following a calorie restricted diet for your basal needs and then fuell specifically for your training sessions. Reduce all calc's by 10% just to be safe though.

If you're a natural sprinter, you could probably get good at sprinting with minimal training. Otherwise, you probably can't.

I'm naturally okay at riding bikes a long way, pretty slowly. So, I can do that without training for it. If I wanted to win a Sports cat XC race, I'd have to train like mad, and would probably still lose.

6) An excuse to stay overweight. Or, have you thought about following a calorie restricted diet for your basal needs and then fuell specifically for your training sessions. Reduce all calc's by 10% just to be safe though.

Yes, thought about it, tried it, worked to a point. Weight levelled out, more food was required.

Wtf do you mean 'excuses' anyway? What's the difference between cause and effect, and an excuse?

He's dedicated and has a will to succeed that you appear to lack.

My lack of dedication is not in question. Again, you seem not to understand my point here.

Do you think I'm saying it's not my fault I'm fat and slow, or something?

Molly - I've said it before and I'll say it again... you gotta be trolling us!!!

You're too bright to be trotting out the shite that you have on this thread...

EDIT not claimed to be good at cycling sprinting. I'm quite quick on foot though.

Is that with heel or forefoot striking??

Am I right in thinking, Molly, that you are trying to train for endurance events?

Do you think I'm saying it's not my fault I'm fat and slow, or something?

No, I think most people are saying that you are in denial about the best way to change it
If you don't want to change it, that's fine too

Mol - I don't really think you have a point.

I hope anyone reading this thread and thinking about their own training plans doesn't get sucked in and stuck in your rut.

How long do you stick at new training and diet ideas before you decide you're right?

How exactly have you progressed since you posted those pictures of yourself 15 months ago?

How lean have you got? How fast have you got?

Why not enter a running race if that's what you're good at instead of trying to fight your body?

No, I think most people are saying that you are in denial about the best way to change it

I can't imagine why you think you know all about how I respond to different exercises and foods.....

Am I right in thinking, Molly, that you are trying to train for endurance events

Ideally, XC MTB. Does that constitute an endurance event? I'd like to get into track racing though.

You're too bright to be trotting out the shite that you have on this thread...

?

Which bit's wrong? You think everyone's the same, and everyone's body responds to training and nutrition the same?

Does that constitute an endurance event?

Along with reading through endless diet threads, xc racing is definitely one of the tougher tests of endurance

Ideally, XC MTB. Does that constitute an endurance event? I'd like to get into track racing though.

Which bit's wrong? You think everyone's the same, and everyone's body responds to training and nutrition the same?

I asked at Newport track what kind of races or leagues etc they held there. No-one knew....

I do need to investigate more, I do want to do it.

4 hours a week training? Training for what? You will never win anything with a "training regime" like that.Get real.
You spend more than that posting on threads like this.
Not helpful I know but FFS ❓

As above, I am aware that it's not enough. It is not my plan, it's what ends up happening.

I do think that 6-9 could be enough though.

Even if 6 - 9 hrs is enough, how much base training do you think you'll need to do before you get to that phase?

I do think that 6-9 could be enough though

Not to win it won't. But go on... prove us all wrong.

EDIT - You even entered the Ben Nevis Tri yet, or is that another dream?

Not entered yet, no.

We will find out how much base training I need, or if 6-9 hours is indeed enough to complete what's billed as 'the hardest triathlon in the UK' and not come last.

Come on, set me a target. Where do you think I'll come given my rubbish training record?

You won't do it. Simple as that. You'd already have entered if you were intent on it.

Edit: Target #1 Enter tonight.

We will find out how much base training I need,

How?

I do need to investigate more, I do want to do it.

We will find out how much base training I need,

I'm not entirely fast twitch. If you have more fast than slow you can change that. If you start off with more slow than fast, you can't go the other way.

I hate signing up early, Sod's law means I'll catch a cold or fall off my bike the day before. So far this year:

Duathlon - signed up 1h before the start

Local X-C MTB champs - signed up 1h beofre the start

Ski mountaineerign race - didn't sign up as it was cancelled due to dangerous conditions by sign up time

Ski Mountaineering race - signed up three days before (or a team mate did)

Winter triathlon - signed up three days before (1h before deadline)

Winter triathlon - signed up a week before and about four days before the deadline (my main objective for the year)

Heh 🙂 I was waiting to find the spare money to sign up, but I guess I can this month.

The event in question is the Ben Nevis Tri btw.

So you're pretty normal then.
[url= http://www.brianmac.co.uk/muscle.htm ]

The average person has approximately 60% fast muscle fibre and 40% slow-twitch fibre (type I). There can be swings in fibre composition, but essentially, we all have three types of muscle fibre that need to be trained.

All I see are problems and no solution finding.

Read more closely then!

Don't delay Molly... sign up tonight!

Read more closely then!

Surely that's part of finding a solution?

So.. I was thinking of a long run tonight but now I'm not so sure. Intervals perhaps.

Do it Mol. Actually do both... do 12k.... 1k intervals alternating between your marathon pace and your 5k pace.

And enter the flipping race!

molgrips - listening to what people suggest might help you find a solution.

Unless you are an alien your approach to nutrition is distinctly odd. Get more long acting carb on board early, ditch all the sugar / maltodextrin.

You are overworking your insulin metabolism and thus having sugar crashes hence the cravings for sugar. You are taking in huge ridiculous amounts of calories in short acting carbs. ( unless you have changed your diet and I missed it)

Surely that's part of finding a solution?

I guess that depends on what you're plans are when you discover that none of the solutions work.

Then you go back to beginning and give each solution a proper go...

My feeling is that if I get the training done I'll lose the weight as long as I don't pig out.

Then you go back to beginning and give each solution a proper go...

You haven't got a clue, but you think you have.

In fact I am still giving the second idea my best shot, but modified to try and fix the issues I've experienced.

Too many

If's

You'll hit 40 thinking of the 'what could've been's'.

I reflect on what you said you did with the iDiet... did you give it the 3 weeks... IIRC, did you balls.

Then you go back to beginning and give each solution a proper go...

The world is almost entirely composed of ifs.

Or would it be better to match the solution with the correct objective?

Well that's why I stopped doing enduro races.

Track racing is quite secretive...

The more you do things that you know you shouldn't and get away with it the less you worry about nutrition.

Yesterday we did a trip up the Tourmalet and back, 182km. Müesli for breakfast and then cerael bars and chocolatines on the way up. In Luz we stopped at Carrefour and bougth a loaf of bread, a 350gm cheese, a carton of orange juice, a big packet of salted crisps and a 200gm bar of chocolate. Between the three of us we scoffed the lot and rode home - feeling fine.

edukator - thats actually decent fuelling. a nice mix of long and short carbs with fats, salt and protein

Well that's why I stopped doing enduro races.

[i]My feeling is that if I get the training done I'll lose the weight as long as I don't pig out[/i]

god I said I wouldn't do this....weight loss happens in the kitchen mostly.

emsz - my good lady had read through this thread and is loving your work. We're going to use stalking you as a sort of joint hobby... 'kay?