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Yes, that's the retail price, but only the select few can get them. I've never even bothered going in the AP boutique, not got the money (or even close) and don't much like anything they do. For AP/PP certain models, mainly grande complications, you need to be a big big spender already AND you have to pass an interview LOL.
AND you have to pass an interview LOL
Like in films. Only 'good guys' and approved characters get to use and seen to use Apple products.
Baddies have to use Android.... 😀
Is it just me, or is that AP image some kind of weird photograph/CGI mashup? Dial and strap look real, case doesn't.
I've worn my Explorer 1 almost every day since I've bought it. My Speedmaster gets a bit more action in the last 6 months but overwhelmingly my daily watch is the Explorer.
It's definitely picked up its fair share of scratches. Not dings/dents, yet. The polished bezel is an absolute scratch magnet, but once you've got a few on there you get over it and it looks fine.
The clasp is fairly battered from laptop working and desks and stuff I guess. I've never noticeable bashed it, but theres a few deep scratches there. Same with the bracelet itself, plenty of wear there.
I really don't mind though, the brushed design hides wear very well, and watches like this are meant to be worn. No safe queens here!
My Pelagos has taken a right beating, despite having not had it even a year but used it exclusively in marine environments. I think that is the level I'm comfortable with regular wear and tear. If I got a Sub, especially a TT, then I would not be comfortable with bashing.
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I agree about the new smurf (personally Mr Bump works better as a name, blue when Becky mouth...no? It could catch on). The sunburst blue dial of the old one though means I can look post the case. I never disliked the maxi case though.
Pelagos smurf is very nice, tool watch compared to beautiful... Mine lines on a blue sailcloth with white stitching and a formex deployant.
Upon reflection, I suspect I have breached Rule 1 on this thread. To Kryton and all, my apologies. I have been following it for a long time and have enjoyed participating greatly but need to calm it down. Watches seem to have the habit of leading me to excess!
I think you're ok @gaidong, I quite like seeing a few bits of unobtainable kit mixed with with the usual SKX's and the like.
What lunge said, who made any rules anyway?
Personally this thread remains fantastically educational for me and I love seeing/understanding some of the higher end pieces being displayed.
Does he mean n - 1 talk? Still good in my view and yes I too enjoy reading about watches I'll never get closer to. It's nice to know a little about them from an owner's perspective.
I read omega doing another 4.8% price rise today or tomorrow. That's and %9 in 3 months I think! Glad I jumped and bought my SMP just before the last rise
Edit, yep it's happened. £4840 now for the SMP!
Another one for the cheapskates.
This arrived last night:


And if you squint you can see a resemblance to krytons dream AP royal Oak above, double the water resistance but no bronze, slightly less smooth second hand, does save you £32,900 quid though...
I have a black 22mm QR Barton Elite Silicon band for sale if anyone wants it, barely used £14 posted. Both strap lengths and original box included.
Any views on Dekla watches? I'm after a Type A Flieger to wear where I don't want anything fancier, not sure it's worth spending Laco/Stowa money and happened across Dekla as a more affordable option. (Basic requirement is a clean/unbranded classic dial, automatic with no date)
Like the Edifice. I was after an Oceanus for a while as a work watch but never managed to get one.
No knowledge of Dekla but they look nice. I'm biased as I have one but the Steinhart Nav-B Chrono is nice and looks like the sort of thing you are after? Worth a look maybe?
https://www.steinhar****ches.de/en/flieger-watch/nav-b-chrono-47-mm-schwarz.html
I'm sure a Dekla has been reviewed on JOMW.
I think I looked at Dekla a while ago but saw some QC problems - there might even be some photos a few pages back of the hands looking a bit rough.
Edit - I did and there was.
Walowiz, me I think, I promised photos and… Life over took me ! I’ll get some.
Any chance of some pics ? Am stuck at home window shopping watches and beer.
I’ve fallen in lust…. Again.

I’ve fallen in lust…. Again.
That looks absolutely stunning, great combo of colours and materials. Perhaps unsurprisingly that hasn’t popped up whilst I’ve been browsing this morning, maybe I need to up my price filter a little bit.
Well interestingly I had a 1 year savings plan going - which matures Monday - for a "significant birthday" Bike, and seeing as it equates to the same price as that, bikes aren't available, and its my birthday soon...
Well I am surprised I thought that Breitling superocean heritage would be pricier than it is, that is a really lovely watch one of the best I’ve seen on this thread.
**** sorry walowiz, keep waiting for a sunny day to get some good photos of the dial, and keep forgetting!
Monday's idle thought, I've found myself looking at the Tudor Black Bay 36 over the weekend. Are Tudor watches 'investment' pieces, i.e. will generally retain their value to an extent?
Tudor can hold value but definitely aim for a discount on a less 'hot' piece. I got 15% off my Pelagos last year. Last month I sold my 2013 BB for €3500 having bought for €2700. Taking into account one service and some inflation, 8 years of ownership cost me nothing more or less.
@everyone, coming home from Paris now. Asked for a Sub. Got nudged to buy something for my missus first 😄. Something for my wife's 50th was already planned but it's now a condition. Fair enough and at least I didn't get laughed out of the store!
That's a pretty good discount for a pelagos.
The super Ocean is nice, great dial. I find the lugs look weirdly fat but perhaps in person they aren't
That is the first Breitling that has had me nodding my head and making mmm noises.
Very attractive piece.
Edit, yep it’s happened. £4840 now for the SMP!
@neilnevill somehow I managed to avoid that double increase as well and I paid at least £1k less than the RRP a couple of months ago. I've no idea how/why but I was concerned I'd bought a dud until Omega confirmed it was pukka.
Not sure on the depreciation curve but I'm pretty certain I won't lose if I choose to sell - unless I trash it or something silly like that.
It seems there’s an answer to the shortage of Rolex watches - stop being poor!
https://www.dmarge.com/2022/02/rolex-shortage-solution.html
It seems there’s an answer to the shortage of Rolex watches – stop being poor!
https://www.dmarge.com/2022/02/rolex-shortage-solution.html/blockquote >Slightly provocative article (which to be fair it leads with) but I guess given the Rolex prices it’s not a poor man’s game and who just wonders in to a shop and buys an £180k watch !
I’ve seen the whole Rolex game on other forums and find the fact that everyone accepts the AD approach interesting and puzzling, as that just wouldn’t fly in nearly any other product sector.
I’ve seen the whole Rolex game on other forums and find the fact that everyone accepts the AD approach interesting and puzzling, as that just wouldn’t fly in nearly any other product sector.
I’m sure I saw a documentary where a Ferrari dealer said if you wanted one of their more exotic models brand new priority, I.e any chance at all, went to those with a purchase history. So similar issues, luxury and highly desirable item, limited number of products (Rolex aren’t going to be increasing factory output, I believe, not100% on that, they have stated they are at capacity) AD gets to set market and if anything this restriction on supply inflates the perceived value of the product.
Does anyone know about replating with Rose Gold?
My wife has a Skagen watch and the plating has worn off/discoloured on the mesh strap. A replacement strap is around £50 (in fact a similar Skagen watch is that price in the sale too). Could the strap be replated at a very reasonable cost?
**** sorry walowiz, keep waiting for a sunny day to get some good photos of the dial, and keep forgetting!
Found the pic and small blurb 🙂 on page 86 (which leads me to why isn't there a "jump to page" option at the bottom of long running threads ?), if it still looks like the picture (hopefully below), then very interested.

@dmorts. Your BB36 would be fine. There was a rush and some aftermarket premiums when the 58 blue and the panda chronos came out but it settles down and you can get everything no problem.
Is there a good place to sell a couple of G-Shocks? I dont expect they are worth much but sitting in a drawer doing nothing. Ebay is an option but they skim a lot in fees now!
A GA-100 in the blue
https://www.casio-europe.com/euro/products/watches/g-shock/ga-100-1a2er/
and a AWG-M100B
https://www.casio-europe.com/euro/products/watches/g-shock/awg-m100b-1aer/
I know there are some G-Shock enthusiasts on this thread!
Just popping in to say I've had excellent service from Calibre, having my Aquaracer chrono serviced for the first time in 15 years.
I can't attest to the insides of course, but outside its as sparkly as new, cleaned to an inch of its life and the crown less stiff and more smooth than it was. A case and postage envelope was provided to send it, and it was return today after 2 weeks and immediately after I paid at 3pm yesterday lovingly wrapped and in a nice Calibre box.
Recommended and will use again.
I think ypu posted right? Thanks for doing so.
@Kryton57 yes. I’d just had my Subby serviced and returned by Calibre when someone asked for recommendations.
Just completed phase 1 of sorting my stuff out and finally for the first time in longer than I can remember I’ve managed to find all my watches ! So hopefully below is my little collection.

So hopefully below is my little collection.
I don't wish to be unduly harsh here but that's an awful photo.
I don’t wish to be unduly harsh here but that’s an awful photo.
Agreed, my phone just would not focus correctly on those, that was actually the best one I took.
Will have another crack at it later.
Will have another crack at it later
Cheers, I look forward to having a proper look at the Samurai?, Gen 1 Monster and the mystery watches!