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Washing up by hand , really that difficult? 🤔

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Isn’t the advise simply to get out?

as I wrote: if you discover a fire that has started get you and the kids out rather than get in beyond your means…. it’s only property and it (should be) insured.

Their view was if you were doing flammable work (IDK, maybe soldering copper joints, or whatever) then a small portable extinguisher that you could have to hand just in case you set fire to the floorboards was sensible. I have a fireblanket next to my Putoline DFF, just in case.

utterly pointless unless you have an automatic door closer fitted also!

Disagree. Bedtime routines are that doors are closed - door closers are useful where you can't rely on an admin control (ie a human doing it) but in a house with three bedrooms off one landing it's dead easy to manage.

And yes, they did comment on the gas hob, and the wife's habit of putting the oven glove on top of the extractor hood where it could fall down and catch fire. But it's so turn on and offable.......


 
Posted : 06/12/2022 1:18 pm
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Also, with regards materials to produce dishwashers - have you ever had a look inside one? They are very simple. A bit of sheet metal and wire, a load of injection moulded components and some very basic electronics. I reckon it's pretty far down the embedded energy league table. Probably less than a phone, and we've got 4 of those.


 
Posted : 06/12/2022 1:26 pm
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So washing up thread has ended up as a full on risk management thread.

Has anyone applied ALARP and Hierarchy of Controls to washing dishes?

I suppose if I did I would be getting rid of my dishwasher today, compared to my original plan of having 2.


 
Posted : 06/12/2022 1:30 pm
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I turn everything off at the plug that isn't in use, after reading this about a microwave exploding in the middle of the night:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/aug/08/experience-my-microwave-nearly-killed-me


 
Posted : 06/12/2022 1:38 pm
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So in the end it comes down to expert advice being that you shouldn’t run them overnight, which you are choosing to ignore. It’s not ‘my’ advice and it’s not particularly for me to defend the advice, I’m just passing that advice on. I’ve tried to answer your queries and in the end your answer is to rebut them and say it’s my problem, that it’s an obsession. I’ve only looked them up to answer your probing, which was a mistake. So – I’m just passing on the expert advice and saying why I follow it.

Sure. There were some parallel conversations last night and I appreciate the further reading. Please believe me, I'm not having a dig at you personally. Rather as I said, I'm trying to understand this advice rather than take it on blind faith. False Authority Syndrome is a thing. Sometimes even official information can be wrong. It's healthy to question sources and try to understand reasoning, if we believe everything we read on the Internet then we end up with things like brexit.

But go on, your choice.

I know it is, and you yours. I'm not trying to talk you out of doing what you're doing, with my luck you'd have a dishwasher-related house fire next week if I did.


 
Posted : 06/12/2022 1:48 pm
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