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[Closed] Vile language in pubs - is it worth a bad review?

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What do you hope to gain?

The world feeling the full force of my righteous indignation, for its failure to live up to my very exacting standards, through the much feared medium of the [url= http://www.theladbible.com/articles/some-of-the-complaints-people-have-about-their-holiday-are-just-ridiculous ]internet review[/url] (second only to the online petition for striking fear into the very souls of its recipricants). That's what! You fool!


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 12:33 pm
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traditional family pubs

Isn't that one of those things like military intelligence? A palindrome or tautology or something?

Pubs are super-depressing when they are nearly empty.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 12:44 pm
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GrahamS wins 'Post of the Year' award.

I've had a bad start to the day and this thread has made me chuckle. Please keep the good work up!


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 12:52 pm
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in the bar of my local i have been known to up the sweariness a notch if someone comes in with a small child that's noisy or otherwise annoying me.
that's in the bar, and i don't think that's a place for kids to be, but i'm old-fashioned and curmudgeonly like that.
mate's kids, or ones that are quiet, don't bother me at all, so long as they're kept on a lead, and don't pee on the door frame.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 1:05 pm
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The parents, for some strange reason, believe that taking them into and adult, sweary, alcohol drioven den of iniquity is a good education for them.

What better way of explaining why daddy is such a c**t?


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 1:13 pm
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There's no such thing as vile language. It's just language. Prudes are very really though.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 1:18 pm
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in the bar of my local i have been known to up the sweariness a notch if someone comes in with a small child that's noisy or otherwise annoying me.

Wow, you must be a VERY important person, can I have your autograph?


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 1:19 pm
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It's just language. Prudes are very really though.

Noisy swearers are also just as but. ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 1:43 pm
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Cougar, I'm afraid your imagination has gotten the better of you (although I am impressed by the time you must have dedicated to write your post). For the ninth time I should point out I have not posted a review - hence why I asked the question. I hope that makes sense.
This thread can be explained like this:
a) The OP asks a genuine question
b) The forum reacts with nothing less than fury, accusing the OP of gross over-reaction (for something he hasn't actually done), when in reality it is the repliers who are acting somewhat hysterically
c) Cougar enters the discussion
d) Exit Badnewz, pursued by a pack of STW Bears 8)


 
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yes.. I was incandescent with rage ๐Ÿ˜†

did you get an answer to your query badnewz?


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 1:52 pm
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b) The forum reacts with nothing less than fury, accusing the OP of gross over-reaction (for something he hasn't actually done), when in reality it is the repliers who are acting somewhat hysterically

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Posted : 23/02/2016 1:54 pm
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The forum reacts with nothing less than fury

You're definitely confusing fury and mockery there ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 1:56 pm
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You're definitely confusing fury and mockery there

Intelligent mockery, it's intelligent mockery young man.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 1:58 pm
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I must say I like the people who are saying you should have a word with the landlord there and then.

The most likely result of that is getting filled in by the sweary blokes in pretty short order.

Can you really review pubs? Wow - usually just one step through the door is enough to do all the 'reviewing' you need.

GrahamS has posted the best reply, but I would also add:

"Does resident bar-proper-upper have LOVE and HAT crudely tattooed across his knuckles - the E having been on a now suspiciously absent finger"?


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:00 pm
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did you get an answer to your query badnewz?

Indeed I did. I shall not be posting a bad review, so the world will not end. But I will speak to the landlord next time I'm there.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:02 pm
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I wonder if, what with the OP's delicate sensibilities and all that, perhaps it was these guys that he saw in the pub but confused them with a marauding gang of sweary violent hooligans?

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Posted : 23/02/2016 2:03 pm
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A cautionary tale about telling someone politely to mind their langauge.

A village pub in Hampton In Arden, restaurant attached and a few bar meals, caters a lot for locals in the front bar and a lounge bar which is usually full of people visiting the NEC or similar. Four of us in total, two couples, and at the table behind me are two younger couples, late twenties, early thirties.

One of the lads was loud. He'd obviously had a few and was getting louder, and was the sort of bloke who seemed to slip profanity into every sentence. He managed to use the f word at the top of his voice and drew a few disapproving glances from other folk in the bar. The second time he managed to bray the word at the top of his voice, I turned and said."Language fella! That's the second time you've shouted that."

Nothing could have prepared me for the reaction I got. I've been a cop for the best part of 30 years, so I've told folk to stop swearing a few times, and know how it can sometimes pan out, but this was like nothing I've ever seen. He apologised. Instantly and heartfelt, not just to me but to Mrs Scape and my sister. His mate apologised as well, so I said that was OK, we all get carried away, and to think nothing of it. Could I get the **** to shut up though? Could I ****! He kept on and ****ing on, grovelling, and when we moved to get out of the draught by the door he stopped off at our table on his way to and from the toilet to apologise again.
Silly ****er.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:06 pm
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You went to a pub and took exception with some of the other customers, who are really nothing to do with the pub and just happened to be there whilst you were there.

You did precisely nothing about this. You didn't politely ask them to tone it down; didn't report it to the staff who could've intervened on your behalf to avoid you possibly getting into a confrontation; didn't think to move tables or for that matter change venues. You didn't even report it as you were leaving so that they could be aware that some customers were being upset and make amends in future.

Better yet, you were offended not for yourself but on behalf of other patrons; complete strangers who, presumably, weren't actually offended sufficiently to bother to complain themselves. So they did nothing either.

Now, from the comfort of your armchair you're proposing to leave a scathing review of an establishment due to an issue that they were potentially oblivious to; an issue which almost entirely wasn't their fault (they could have intervened but then, if no-one has complained, should they risk making a fuss?) based on the behaviour of other customers, when you've not even given that establishment any opportunity or even cause to deal with your silent complaint?

Seriously, why would you even be considering this? What do you hope to gain? If you're that keen to protect someone else's kids' delicate ears from nasty shouty men, write to the bloody pub and ask them to sort it out.

^^This.

Man goes in East London pub, where East London men converse in the manner traditional East London geezers(note, very different to the new skinny jean'd Shoreditch types who start every sentence with "so".). Man is shocked at this.

Recommendation: Don't go to East London boozers if you don't like it.

Old mate of mine has a pub off Old Street - nicely done up, interesting mix of city boys and locals. All part of the charm. There's some interesting conversations at times, I love it. Much better than some sanitised hipster craft beer wannabe place or chain pub.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:10 pm
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For the ninth time I should point out I have not posted a review - hence why I asked the question. I hope that makes sense.

I know you haven't, I was more perplexed as to why you'd even entertain the idea.

c) Cougar enters the discussion

I'm also somewhat confused as to why I get singled out on a three-page thread.

I must say I like the people who are saying you should have a word with the landlord there and then.

The most likely result of that is getting filled in by the sweary blokes in pretty short order.

How would they know, unless you were the only other person in there? (And if you were, just change tables.) Just mention it when you're next ordering a drink.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:11 pm
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Man goes in East London pub, where East London men converse in the manner traditional East London geezers

Have you actually been to Old Street? All the East London geezers live in Essex these days!


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:13 pm
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I'm also somewhat confused as to why I get singled out on a three-page thread.

perhaps it's your maffs skillz


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:15 pm
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was it the Masque Haunt?


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:17 pm
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Old mate of mine has a pub off Old Street - nicely done up, interesting mix of city boys and locals. All part of the charm. There's some interesting conversations at times, I love it. Much better than some sanitised hipster craft beer wannabe place or chain pub.

Ooo nice dig at hipster bars, we swear in them too, and where they serve nice bear. Just we don't tend to be southerners ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:17 pm
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They have hipsters in australia?


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:18 pm
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Have you actually been to Old Street? All the East London geezers live in Essex these days!

Many, many times over the years. Spent years living in Bow & working in the Truman Brewery complex and so was frequently in that area as I had mates & clients all along Old St.

There was also an awesome old villains pub on Whitechapel High Street. Forget the name of the place but was full of real old 70's Jack The Hat types in suits, gold chains and smoking inside well after the smoking ban. Back up in the Smoke next week for work, must see if it's still there.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:20 pm
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lol really wrecker never been to Brunswick then...


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:21 pm
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They have bears in australia?


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:21 pm
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Ooo nice dig at hipster bars, we swear in them too, and where they serve nice bear.

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Posted : 23/02/2016 2:22 pm
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Man goes in East London pub, where East London men converse in the manner traditional East London geezers

My grandfather was born and bread in the East End, he was a docker. Never once heard him swear.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:22 pm
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ah another one who hasn't been
only 100 to try before you try that one again
https://www.boozebud.com.au/hottest100?gclid=CjwKEAiAo7C2BRDgqODGq5r38DsSJAAv7dTP5BKI0tizuk56to5hOkqrlpI59BgOCvXO-EMt0RJTmxoCI7jw_wcB


 
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lol really wrecker never been to Brunswick then...

Hell no! Best avoided then?


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:24 pm
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Good Beer, good food, good fun, what you scared of just a few fixies and man buns


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:25 pm
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There was also an awesome old villains pub on Whitechapel High Street. Forget the name of the place but was full of real old 70's Jack The Hat types in suits, gold chains and smoking inside well after the smoking ban. Back up in the Smoke next week for work, must see if it's still there.

It'll have been bought by these guys....

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Don't make me hit submit.

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I bet the service in every bar and coffeeshop is amazing with all those hipsters to choose from!


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:32 pm
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Indeed I did. I shall not be posting a bad review, so the world will not end. But I will speak to the landlord next time I'm there.

You're going back? The pub must be nice - you should write a review.. ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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Hmmm
a Sweary Pub in Hertfordshire

Thatll be

The Wagon and Horses, Flamstead

as featured on Toughest Pubs in Britain


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:44 pm
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very good idlejon!


 
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The forum reacts with nothing less than fury

You have a very vivid and creative imagination.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 3:29 pm
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scapegoat - funny folk in Lion?


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 3:35 pm
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The Wagon and Horses, Flamstead

A right of passage for all lads of a certain age, growing up within a 1 hour radius, back in the days of the strippers with collection pots after the "show", scary looking lorry drivers and various other characters. Amazing place.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 4:02 pm
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I'm also somewhat confused as to why I get singled out on a three-page thread.

pfft! no idea! you're not as important as me. ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
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Indeed. Not a bad old spot if you know what to expect!


 
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Was my local as a lad - dear old man "at rest" across the road.

Always knew if you were side or front bar in those days!! Only time I have seen a 180 live (old school mate) playing darts on Christmas Eve before midnight mass. Always good beer-infused vocals on C Eve!!


 
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