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Didnt realise until just now that the alledged killer of Colin Hatch is Damien Fowkes who also put Ian Huntley in hospital after slashing his throat.
News wires are being cagey about it all for some reason, but:
The prisoner said to have attacked Soham killer Ian Huntley is Damien Fowkes, a lifer who could face charges of grievous bodily harm or assault.
Police are investigating the attack and are expected to interview 34-year-old Fowkes soon.
Huntley, 36, had his throat slashed with a home-made weapon on Sunday afternoon and was treated at an outside hospital before being returned to Frankland jail near Durham.
Fowkes's stepson Lewis told The Sun newspaper: "He did it for Holly and Jessica and I would like to pat him on the back.
"Most people will think Damien is a hero. I think he should be given a medal. The only pity is he didn't do a better job."
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/x/Article/201102415939216?lid=ARTICLE_15939216_x&lpos=searchresults
A drug-addicted robber has been arrested over the murder of child sex killer Colin
Hatch at one of Britain's most secure jails.Damien Fowkes, 35, was held after Hatch was taken hostage and attacked by a fellow inmate at the maximum-security Full Sutton prison near York on Tuesday night.
Hatch, 38, was told he must serve the rest of his life behind bars after being convicted of killing a seven-year-old boy while on parole for a previous child sex attack.
Fowkes, who was transferred to the jail last year, was given a life sentence, and told he must serve a minimum of 12 years, by Northampton Crown Court in September 2002 for three robberies over four days.
He was detained on suspicion of murder after Hatch was taken hostage and killed.
I imagine there's a movement to try and keep his involvement low-key so as to avoid the chance of him being applauded for what he's done.
So is there a duty of care on the state to protect inmates from each other or is it unreasonable for them to expect extra protection over and above what a citizen outside of a prison might receive? Does Huntley have a case?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8583528.stm
EDIT The Mirror seem to have more balls than others:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/02/24/man-accused-of-jail-pervert-colin-hatch-s-death-is-ian-huntley-slasher-suspect-115875-22946034/
Damien Fowkes - currently awaiting an attempted murder trial for allegedly attacking Ian Huntley - has been arrested and will be quizzed by police.
the reason they're being cagey is because it's sub judice (sp?) and they can get a slap for publishign previous convictions if someone has been charged.
As can stw, for that matter, so this thread may not last long...
"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons".
- Fyodor Dostoevsky.
... which I agree with.
I see drac (?) rocketdog(?) cant remeber who's post got zapped in the stw-site-bork.
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And I thought it was the police coming to get my thread 😉
Anyway, its on the PA newswire now weekednworrier, and the huntley attack is only alleged...
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gLZw-Kp-Qt1neUttgl5gPWaRD3rQ?docId=N0148071298568178189A
suspect they [courts and even the tabloid press] dont want people applauding a nutter for killing an even more odious nutter.
probably different press reaction if a non convicted person "have ago hero" had done similiar.
Whilst his moral code may be better than the people he has maimed/killed I a mnot sure I want to share a civilised world with either kind of offender.
I suspect the prison service does try its best to keep these prisoners apart and to protect them from harm iirc sex offenders are on their own wing or segregated but i am not sure if this can be forced on them or requires their consent
They'll be segregated, which makes you wonder what kind of person is kept in with murderers. He must have done something a bit extreme to get a life sentance for robbery anyway.
Worth thinking about by anyone who thinks he deserves any kind of medal.
I find it hard to get upset by this news.
+1.
I'm saddened by the fact that he has effectively set Hatch free, and will have to pay the price.
A crack addict who robs a family at knifepoint I can comprehend, though not condone. Paedophilia is beyond my comprehension.
SB
set Hatch free, and will have to pay the price.
we wont though.
JY/Andituk - that's something I dont understand, how the two would have been in the same space, or even how he could take Hatch "hostage". I would have thought they woud never had been able to be close together especially Fowke's track record.
Not entirely linked, but http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3432364/Rapist-let-out-of-jail-each-day-to-work-in-shop-selling-sofas.html
@CFH - whilst people may not agree with prisoners, and particularly those who have committed very serious offences such as rape, being allowed out of prison, they will inevitably be released under the terms of their sentence, and it is preferable that before being fully released that they have had some form of rehabilitation back into the community.
These placements are quite common in open prisons, are risk-assessed by prison staff and psychiatrists and the prisoner is constantly supervised by a member of staff of the host organisation - any slip-up and they are back in a closed jail. It is far more preferable than just letting them out at the end of the sentence without having any rehabilitation.
So as per usual the Sun is sensationalising something that it has little knowledge about, and gives its usual biased slant to a story.
Philby, can I be blunt? (See what I did there?)
I am well aware of the ROA and the need to rehabilitate offenders, but I would question if a retail/public facing position is the right place to do this.
He wouldn't appear to be in a public facing position. He's working in a warehouse.
He must have done something a bit extreme to get a life sentance for robbery anyway.
I think bog-standard armed robbery is a life sentence. If you do 4 armed robberies in a week, I reckon you're probably a Category A prisoner. The only segregation that I'm aware of is solitary for the badly behaved, and the "nonce" wing for paedophiles and their ilk. Everyone else will be in together.