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I think listening means understanding their world view. Not forcing people on to DEI courses to be re-educated into compliance.
The liberal elite don’t want diversity at all- it’s a smokescreen to enforce conformity of opinion. (Hence the disgusting remarks about Kemi Badenoch).
Against that background I can understand why people turned out to vote for Donald Trump. I don’t think it helps to label all the people who did as stupid racists either.
Absolutely. The only people to blame for Trump's election are the Democrats and their arrogant born-to-rule entitlement. They thought all they had to do was shout "racist" and "misogynist" and everyone who isn't a white man would fall in line and vote for them, and if they didn't, the Democrats spent all their time lecturing them about how it was their duty to elect Harris. In a lifetime of watching politics I don't think I've ever seen a cluster**** on the scale of what the Democrats have just inflicted on the world. It's about time they and other liberal centrist parties around the western world learned this lesson or in a few years time the west won't look a lot different to Russia or China.
Why is someone who supports Trump an obvious troll? Approximately half of US voters do, are they all trolls?
They're not trolls, just inferior, less intelligent and more bigoted than all the sensible grownups on this thread.
He didn't have a pee break because he wears a nappy.
That’s all he does. The left are at least trying to run a country and do what needs doing.
The democrats are not "left" they are just not as extreme right as the GOP, same as labour in the UK now.
The GOP/democrat double act has been perfect for the oligarchs to enrich themselves, Trump tax cut followed by Bidens corporate stimulus has meant the stimulus flowed to the few not the many, leaving the average wage earning voters with a choice of no hope or false hope.
And we are seeing the same in Europe, Austerity in Germany means the pretend left will be wiped out at the next election. Macron has probably handed the next election to the far right, when in their last election ignoring the will of the voters and installing a right wing Government when the left had the largest voting share.
The centrists have decided that attacking the left and progressives is more important to them than actually dealing with the very real problems of the far right and the oligarchy, a behaviour that is very evident and cheered on this forum.
That’s not saying a lot is it! As I said already, Lee Anderson is a great illustration of how far left everything has shifted. Even the tories weren’t right wing enough to support his labour 2000 era world view….
Yes it's entirely the Dems' fault that the voters preferred a senile rapist demagogue over a well-qualified.....black woman.
Of course they did start out trying with their own senile old man but he was insufficiently hateful. Hopefully they'll have a better bunch to choose from next time.
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I do actually think right/left is dead as a concept. Hence the coalition between Trump Tulsi, Musk and RFK etc.It’s more to do with those who want to be free and those who want to be DEI re-programmed globalist pawns.
Yeah, that post. Not entirely sure if you are a troll and I'm not worried either way in honestly but you and I are definitely poles apart on how we see the world, politically and morally.
You'll never change a single opinion on here, nor us, yours.
Based upon that, I'll simply skim over your posts but will not reply to them after this singular time.
Nothing personal, just being practical based upon your world view and mine.
And yet voting for Kemi makes a Tory member a racist as well.
Almost like Dem double-speak has caused words to lose all meaning…..
Maybe we might learn something?
That Trump was a darling of the old left? That he’s a sportsman who loves the game but respects the rules. Whereas the left just want to win at all costs? That the Dems fought the nastier fight?
I mean, you tell me what you're learning here.
Trump really is impressive. His stamina attending rallies podcasts and interviews has been incredible. No days off for him. He did four yesterday alone.
Now that really is funny
Go and read one of his speeches verbatim
It's a nonsense soup of false grievences, telling everyone how great he is and straight up lies hitting the usual populist highlights,
Imagine wanting to have this level of dexterity
https://imgur.com/gallery/trump-attempting-to-enter-garbage-truck-reEItaz
Yes it’s entirely the Dems’ fault that the voters preferred a senile rapist demagogue over a well-qualified…..black woman.
Remember when Corbyn lost in 2019? All the liberal 'grownups' here and elsewhere were saying the Labour party needed to listen to the voters rather than lecturing them about how they were wrong. What's the difference this time?
I’ve watched loads. Yes he rambles on and has his favourite old tropes but just the ability to talk that much in such a condensed period of time is incredible.
His ‘fresh’ performances were obvs the best. His Gutfeld appearance was mint and of course Rogan was good. But the way he connected with Theo von Ona a human level was probably the best.
Surely bragging about grabbing women by the pussy was his highlight
And then the e Jean Carol rape and the close friendship and parties with epstein
Paying off a porn star you'd been shagging while your wife was pregnant with campaign funds
A strange guy to idolise
Of course a lot of it is ‘my enemies enemy is my friend’ but that’s the trouble with two party politics- you need to make a broad coalition to get anything done.
Trump managed to sell a positive manifesto to people. All the dems could do is say “Look- bad hitler orange man guilty of all those crimes we invented against him”.
all those crimes we invented
Which ones were invented?
{closes thread} will reopen it in 4years time.
Well look (crumbs was that a Blarism- yuk!), all I can say is go check it out. There is hours and hours and hours of video of Trump being a nice guy.
The fact he’s tea total makes me more suspicious about a lot of the claims about him too.
Is he a saint? Of course not but compared to her and the satanic, war mongering, drug pushing, border opening puppet masters above her he is pretty darn close.
‘Go do your own research’
HOUSE!