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When I first read about the fatal stabbing of the ****stani shop keeper in Glasgow I thought it was a terrible murder of a Muslim by a non-Muslim. The reports spoke of it being religiously motivated. A terrible crime and I posted as much on another thread. Yesterday a number of friends posted links suggesting it had been a sectarian killing by another Muslim unhappy that the shop keeper had posted a message on Facebook wishing all his Christian customers a happy Easter. The shop keeper was a believer in a branchnof Islam which welcomes all faiths.
Glasgow police have now confirmed and the Guardian have reported what international press did yesterday that the killer was a religiously motivated "fellow" Muslim
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/27/prominent-muslims-call-for-calm-after-glasgow-shopkeepers-killing ]Guardian: Muslims leaders call for calm[/url]
pretty sure the shop keeper was Scottish.
poah - Member
pretty sure the shop keeper was Scottish.
Your point being, caller?
Clearly failing to understand the basic difference between race and religion.
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I'd say his point was that Jambaliar called him a ****stani shopkeeper. As for points, I'm struggling to see one in the OP.
Is is a real shame. The shop keeper seems to have been very popular in the area. Much loved by those that frequented his shop. 🙁
Media hype. Lots of people who share a belief/religion with their killers have been killed through the years. Story is just to sell papers and ad space, relies on the limited knowledge and racial stereotypes of the ones who fall for this guff.
[quote=poah said]pretty sure the shop keeper was Scottish.
No he was ****stani.
Over the weekend tributes have continued to flood in for the shopkeeper, who moved from ****stan to Scotland in the 1990s
He embraced Scotland and Glasgow. He was so proud to be a Glaswegian and so loyal to the city
****stani born but if he thought of himself as Scottish that's good enough for me.
Funny story about him; he refused to sell alcohol. Not for religious reasons but so that all the bams would shop elsewhere. 🙂
Thoroughly well liked in the community and a real loss.
Muslim baaad!unknown - Member
I'd say his point was that Jambaliar called him a ****stani shopkeeper. As for points, I'm struggling to see one in the OP.
Jamby is right you know, bloody Muslims, if only we could have peace in the Holy Land on Easter...
Why can't they just let Israel expand in peace?
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This is a new record: 10 posts in and apparently it's Mossad that's responsible for some scumbag murdering a shopkeeper.
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Wowsers a lot of hate for OP here.
Surely muslim on muslim killing is new in the UK? And worthy of comment (for non Jamba haters)?
This is a new record: 10 posts in and apparently it's Mossad that's responsible for some scumbag murdering a shopkeeper.
Makes you [s]despair[/s] think.....
Hope this idea doesn't catch on, can you imagine what would happen if the protestants and catholics were to fall out in some way?
I thought so when I first heard the news. No surprise there.
I thought he made the mistake by trying to greet others (faiths) during the festive season, worst still he posted it on the interweb! His action was perceived as attempting to integrate.
Not good because integration means diluting their belief bits by bits and they do not like that.
mrsfry - Member
Media hype. Lots of people who share a belief/religion with their killers have been killed through the years. Story is just to sell papers and ad space, relies on the limited knowledge and racial stereotypes of the ones who fall for this guff.
Really! Ya ... right ... 😆
Are you trying to calm everyone down? 😛
How many explanations can you come up with? 😆
That is a very poor attempt at trying to rationalise an event you know. 😮
I'd be very surprised if it was, especially as there are seventy squillion of "them" living here (apparently)
Surely muslim on muslim killing is new in the UK?
I haven't seen him reported as being Scottish anywhere, I used ****stani as that's how the BBC decribed him. He could well be a British passport holder, I don't know. That is however irrelevant to the story imo, the point is we have one Muslim who has apparently travelled 200 miles to stab another Muslim to death for having differing religious views.
The Guardian article doesn't call him ****stani. His brother said he was a "proud Glaswegian". So I think we can definitely say he was Scottish - just not by birth, but who cares about that?
I haven't seen him reported as being Scottish anywhere
The schoolgirl who was murdered in Clydebank recently wasn't specifically described as Scottish either.
mrsfry - Member
Media hype. Lots of people who share a belief/religion with their killers have been killed through the years. Story is just to sell papers and ad space, relies on the limited knowledge and racial stereotypes of the ones who fall for this guff.
Rubbish.
I seriously doubt anyone would consider calling me a Geordie even though I am more than 12 stones. 😛
jambalaya - Member
That is however irrelevant to the story imo, the point is we have one Muslim who has apparently travelled 200 miles to stab another Muslim to death for having differing religious views.
There is already a strong under current but most just try to sweep them under the carpet either through naivety or ignorance. They simply cannot imagine or accept such thing would happen in BritLand ... 😯
bencooper - MemberThe Guardian article doesn't call him ****stani. His brother said he was a "proud Glaswegian". So I think we can definitely say he was Scottish - just not by birth, but who cares about that?
Might as well call him a Pict or a Scot. 🙄
They are trying to integrate by calling themselves "proud Glaswegian" but their own people might not allow that ...
Wonder who funds the mosques that preach extremism and hatred...
[url= http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/11/wahhabism-isis-how-saudi-arabia-exported-main-source-global-terrorism ]
Wahhabism to ISIS: how Saudi Arabia exported the main source of global terrorism[/url]
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jivehoneyjive
Bow to the Queen!
Long live the Queen!
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Sectarianism? In Glasgow? Surely not!.
In other news - JHJ is brilliant! Carry on sir....
Rothschild's. Look no further.
Me na respeck dem babylon
Rothschild's. Look no further.
I agree. The '82 is a delight.
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Blimey, even got a pic of whatsherface galavanting around in a party frock on the bottle...
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@jive is just embarrased as his Westminster peopdophile ring was proven to be a total fantasy with not a shred of evidence and his "well respected journalist" could well be sued by an abuse victim.
@ben whether he is Scottish isn't the point - Scot murdered by Muslim isn"t the issue and potentially makes the crime seem racially motivated. What we have here is Muslim sectarian violence against a man who by all accounts is a credit to his religion, his countries (UK and ****stan) and his family. His open and welcoming religion and his efforts to live it every day have resulted in another Muslim (also ****stani ?) travelling 200 miles to murder him.
Well it's a known fact that a christian has never murdered another christian so these people must be wild animals
200 miles? How far is it from the Republic of Ireland to London?
Having a balanced discusion about the Islamification of Britain is impossible when some people just cannot get past stage one- that any criticism is racism.
I knew a copper who took early retirement and moved to Scotland 20 years ago because of what was happening in South Yorkshire, talking to me at the time he said he just go do anything about it if you said anything you were branded a racist. The social worker whistleblower said the same and nearly lost her family and liberty for the same reason.
When something is beyond critism, extremism will develop.
Could it possible be that there is something about this religion thats not very pleasant and should be challanged?
[quote=wilburt ]Could it possible be that there is something about this religion thats not very pleasant and should be challanged?Christianity? Yep. And a few folk on this forum are forever pointing it out.
It's integration, innit?
Glaswegian sectarian attitudes adopted by Muslims and "improved".
Poor chap. As far as we are concerned if he identified as Scottish, he's Scottish. RIP.
jambalaya - Memberthe point is we have one Muslim who has apparently travelled 200 miles to stab another Muslim to death for having differing religious views.
Key word being "one"- it's newsworthy because it's completely unique. Not something the UK's dominant religion can claim. So good job, muslims! Setting a fine example, the country would be much better off if other cults could match it.
You do realize a vast and horrific Sunni/Shia war has erupted in recent years over much of the middle east?
So I don't think Islam has much to teach protestants/Catholics about not murdering each other right now.
This happened round the corner from me. Would often pop into his shop. There has been a real genuine outpouring of grief in the community.
Regardless of the motivation, a good man has been murdered and has left a devastated family and community behind.
Forum smart arse point scoring isn't needed...
This happened round the corner from me. Would often pop into his shop. There has been a real genuine outpouring of grief in the community.Regardless of the motivation, a good man has been murdered and has left a devastated family and community behind.
Forum smart arse point scoring isn't needed...
^^This^^
Surely muslim on muslim killing is new in the UK?
I'd be very surprised if it was
There have certainly been "honour killings".
There have certainly been "honour killings".
Which are not sectarian. The post title asked whether this was the UK's first Muslim sectarian murder. So far nobody has pointed to another one.
Not good because integration means diluting their belief bits by bits and they do not like that
But if they do not like it why did they do it?
CharlieMungus - Member
Not good because integration means diluting their belief bits by bits and they do not like that
But if they do not like it why did they do it?
The moderate ones underestimated the situation of their community and belief.
Sounds like he was a good person who will be much missed. Sympathies to his family.
If the story is as it reads, how very sad. That someone wanting to adapt a little to his surroundings should lose his life for his troubles. I know people don't generally like "change", and some more than others, but a bit of tolerance wouldn't go amiss.
Ah!some of them are like that
a bit like getting done over by skinheads or NF or britain furst or summink..
poor bastard
So one nutter decided to kill someone, it does seem to be playing on the sectarian card a lot there for effect more than anything. Especially considering the level of sectarian violence and hatred in Glasgow.