[Closed] UKIP's 'Common Sense' bus hits Portsmouth Railway Station.

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http://xkcd.com/1357/

@ Tom_W - your linky mentions a more recent update right on the first page above the title. One scientist to another, like.

Just skim read the updated paper, doesn't seem to different. Phew....nearly had me there...I thought they had redacted the paper or something 😳 . You're more than welcome to destroy the paper with reasoned argument though.

Are you a scientist?

I am. Your view's are thus null and void. Peasant.

I thinking you are confusing psychology with science.

Oh, and in this context there should be no apostrophe in "views". Amazing that a thick right winger should no that eh!

What if I was to publish a link to research showing that Oriental people are brighter than white people? Would that be acceptable science? Or racist?

You laugh but I bet there was a bit of cognitive dissonance going on when you unconsciously realised that you're living proof that the paper was right.

Sorry, but it was just laughter. Better luck next time.

free speech and the [s]right[/s] [b]Westminster MPs[/b] are rather incompatible it would seem

Would be more correct

@CFH James Blunt may be the modern version but I prefer the Berkshire Hunt rhyming slang version from which Berk is derived. But then I'm an old traditionalist.

What if I was to publish a link to research showing that Oriental people are brighter than white people? Would that be acceptable science? Or racist?

I call Chewbacca defence!

But it would be acceptable science. If you tried to argue that it was down to race not environment, then based on current scientific understanding...that would be racist.

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Sorry about the briebart link, but I believe the numbers came from The Times, behind a paywall, I can't find them elsewhere. I could take it out and leave the numbers unexplained if that would be better.

I thinking you are confusing psychology with science

FWIW i say it is like alchemy was to chemistry in some areas...still at least it is not economics 😉

FWIW the link has been noted in the data for some time.
Lower the IQ the more right wing you tend to be
Another way is the average IQ of the right wing vote is lower than the average IQ for the left wing
It does not mean everyone left wing is bright and everyone right wing is dim....though it may be hard to tell that from these threads 😉

EDIT : Ignore that, things are moving too fast and I can't keep with the posts !

Don't offend right-wingers! They get more upset by our trolling but are bigger trolls themselves! Oh the layers and layers of hypocrisy!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2013/10/07/liberal-comment-trolling-polarizes-conservatives-but-not-vice-versa-study-says/

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I see what you did there kenny, you replied and then you thought the better thing to do was not to get upset and prove the paper wrong!

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(an issue on which I fully support the position of Trevor Philips )

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/29/10-good-reasons-not-vote-ukip-nigel-farage-europe

I see what you did there kenny, you replied and then you thought the better thing to do was not to get upset and prove the paper wrong!

You got me bang to rights. My right wing views have unfortunately left me incapable of holding my own in such esteemed intellectual company.

Instead I'm off to do the next picture in my Sarah Palin join the dots book. I think it might be a polar bear.

nevermind ukip - did you catch the bnps party political broadcast.

i missed it on bbc2, my missus told me it was the most weird surreal party political broadcast she ever saw, so i headed over to their website
watched the censored version - shes right weird as
then watched the original version - OmGWTfBBQBRB lollerskates, large dose of wtf please. Ive had to seriously consider the possibility that i took some pretty hard drugs on this evenings ride. Its the only explanation.

dear bnp-ers, two people have watched your cartoon now.

i was going to give them their own thread, but i thought better of it.

Anyway getting back to the OP, I notice that the Commonsense Bus is described as "Nigel Farage on tour".

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It's nice to see that the party which intends to break the mould of British politics is a one man outfit.
You could say, one people, one party, one leader.

I also note that there is apparently an official Ukip taxi. There is something highly appropriate with the suggestion that Ukip's policies are best explained by a black cab driver. Preferably with the added visual communication of a rear view mirror.

I love it.. Lefty assumption that intelligence defines wether you're worthy of voting..

Here's the news guys, remember that little ditty '10 million Sun readers can't be wrong'

Have a guess how many Grauniad readers there are?

No matter how many lame high minded Grauniad pieces you post links to, the Tim nice but dims of this world don't read it, then come to think of it how many Daily Mail readers are there?

So, brace yourselves ladies.. For every bright left vote, there could be ten dim right ones.. 😆

one people, one party, one leader.

Yes! We did it! Nazis! "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer"!

So, brace yourselves ladies.. For every bright left votes, there could be ten dim right ones..

Which is why everyone else is wrong and euthanasia is actually brilliant. Bring on teh epistemic autocracy.

And there we have it, Godwin invoked, argument lost, goodnight one and all, I'm off to find somewhere to post my big purple sign..

Your post does sound a bit "lets kill all the intellectuals and burn their books" though. Along with the fact that UKIP seems to be a party hinged around a cult of personality, it starts to beg the question....

And there we have it, Godwin invoked

Has anyone made a comparison between Nigel Farage and Adolf Hitler ? I think not.

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derekfish - Member

I love it.. Lefty assumption that intelligence defines wether you're worthy of voting..

When did that happen?

I thought it was Jesus with that halo Ernie.

When did that happen?

Jeeezus, some people are only interested in facts. It [i]probably[/i] happened. Is that good enough ffs ?

It's a lovely picture mitsumonkey. The Times put it on their front page.

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ernie_lynch - Member

An interesting rant.

I appreciate that you took it for what it was. 🙂
As a mongrel I embrace the differences in people in this country, and it is why I love Britain so much.
Too full of Guinness and gin to make any other sense.
God bless you all, if that's what you desire. 🙂

You got me bang to rights. My right wing views have unfortunately left me incapable of holding my own in such esteemed intellectual company.

Instead I'm off to do the next picture in my Sarah Palin join the dots book. I think it might be a polar bear.

I love it.. Lefty assumption that intelligence defines wether you're worthy of voting..

The fact you were pleased with it only compounds the fail.

For every bright left vote, there could be ten dim right ones

So faridge has bottled standing in a proper election

I think that tells you all you need to know about UKIP and their leader-

hes in it for his mep expenses account and self publicity, his prescious ego couldnt take the humiliation it seems

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Perhaps he thinks Neil Hamilton is the right man to stand in a parliamentary seat vacated due to a "cash-for-questions scandal" ?

Anyway in other news, a UKIP candidate points out that an African shouldn't win an Olympic gold medal for Britain.

[url= http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/29/ukip-wycherley-mo-farah-racism-row-facebook ]Ukip in racism row after candidate describes Mo Farah as 'African'[/url]

Has anyone made a comparison between Nigel Farage and Adolf Hitler ?

I [i]may[/i] have drawn a Hitler 'tache on Farage on the leaflet UKIP sent us. It's not big or clever, but it is funny.

Said leaflet then went into a jiffy envelope with some offcuts of wood, was addressed to their freepost address and popped in the postbox this morning.

Here's the news guys, remember that little ditty '10 million Sun readers can't be wrong'

Have a guess how many Grauniad readers there are?

I once saw an early "reality" TV show where a female Guardian journalist was paired with a Sun journalist (male, white shirt, red braces) to work at The Sun for a week.

It was getting close to deadline and the Guardian journalist had not been able to interview the key person for the story due to unavailability.

The Sun journalist told her "Don't worry, just make it up".

The Guardian journalist said "Isn't that a bit unethical?"

The Sun journalist said: "You have me confused with someone who gives a f***, luv."

Sorry - typo. Sun "journalist", I should say...

Help me here please.

All these defecting voters, 41% Tory, 12% Lab, 19% Lib, they're all closet racists and fruitcakes, right? So the parties won't want them back?

And racists are thickos, thickos are racists, does thet indicate some awful failing in our education system?

seems that way slowoldgit
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/simpletons-of-newark-bereft-2014043086126

Racism is nothing to do with where you are on the political spectrum.

Racism comes from people who are scared of change and scared of 'the other'. The more extreme fringes of any political position tend to be racist because they're the most scared. Both Hitler and Stalin slaughtered Jews remember...

(Is there an equivalent of Godwin's Law for Stalin?) 🙂

That shows that despots are despots and can come from both the left and the right but yes there are some left wing racists

Still I am happy for someone to look at the EU and tell us what % of parties that are racist are right wing and what % are left wing

Its still the case the right has more of an issue with this than the left

Help me here please.

All these defecting voters, 41% Tory, 12% Lab, 19% Lib, they're all closet racists and fruitcakes, right? So the parties won't want them back?

And racists are thickos, thickos are racists, does thet indicate some awful failing in our education system?

You don't understand the difference between a UKIP party member and a potential UKIP voter ?

There is plenty of evidence that David Cameron's description of UKIP as "a bunch of fruit cakes and loonies and closet racists" was fairly accurate.

If fact the evidence appears to be arriving on a weekly if not daily basis.

they're all closet racists and fruitcakes, right? So the parties won't want them back?

Yes, I think the estimates have shown that something like 15 percent of any given population are open to voting for far right nationalists like the BNP. If you vote for an openly racist party such as the BNP then you are a racist. Plain and simple, no questions asked. I get the feeling a lot of those types will make up a considerable percentage of UKIPs support.

And in the latest evidence of bigoted fruitcakes in UKIP - UKIP candidate, Jackie Garnett, says Britain should "ban Islam and knock down all the mosques".

It is precisely because the vast majority of potential UKIP voters [i]aren't[/i] loopy fruitcakes that they should be made aware of what they intend voting for.

Sadly such is the determination by some to give the "political establishment" a kicking, that they quite likely won't heed the warnings.

Racism is nothing to do with where you are on the political spectrum.

Hmm.....

There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.

http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

If you vote for an openly racist party such as the BNP then you are a racist. Plain and simple, no questions asked.

I disagree. While many might well be described as racist not all necessarily are. Hard as it might be to believe but some people do not consider the BNP to be racist. They simply don't put enough thought into it and accept the BNP's claim that they are not racist at face value.

I have even know people (working class) to openly claim that they are racist when they clearly aren't, eg when you point that their mate so-and-so is black they respond with "well he's different" or you remind that they seem to get on well with Mr Patel at the corner shop and they respond with "yeah he's alright".

It kind of amuses me how this contrasts with some middle-class people who vehemently deny they are racist and then show obvious prejudges towards black people.

I have even know people (working class) to openly claim that they are racist when they clearly aren't, eg when you point that their mate so-and-so is black they respond with "well he's different" or you remind that they seem to get on well with Mr Patel at the corner shop and they respond with "yeah he's alright".

It's still racism, your mates just consider him to be an "exceptional n.....".

Hard as it might be to believe but some people do not consider the BNP to be racist. They simply don't put enough thought into it and accept the BNP's claim that they are not racist at face value.

I don't believe that for a second, they just don't want to be outed as racist.

Sorry what's "still racism" ?