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Joyce Thacker seems to have a [b]Common Purpose[/b] with some posters on here 😉
More background to the character here
http://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.com/2012/09/29/joyce-thackers-priority-find-the-whistle-blower/
Personally I think this decision is worth £250k plus pension contributions to her.
It is possible to be a member of an organisation* without supporting everything that they stand for to the letter.
*like a religion or political party.
Sound like a typical episode of Clare in the Community.
he's fitted into the German way of life, but still keeps his 'Englishness'
When you move somewhere else you go one way and the place you leave doesn't stand still either. The gap in values grows with time.
Edit: nothing on-topic to say BTW, I shouldn't have read beyond the first five posts but did. 😐
Just perhaps we should all fill in a form when we decide to have children what political party ,we may vote for or way we lean and if its UKIP, BNP, or conservatives, caththolic, gay we get refused children as we may well indoctorate them,into our way of life, and corrupt them in some way, and propogate the thought that we are doing ok.
But isnt that what all parents do, only in much latter life do the kids ,make up their own minds or folow their paerents brainwashing.
WHAT CHILDREN NEED IS A STABLE RELATIONSHIP FROM WHOEVER LOOKS AFTER THEM,SOMETHING THAT IS LACKING IN A FEW FAMILIES NOWADAYS AS IN THE PAST.
[i]What exactly is 'British culture'? Cos I haven't got a clue what parties like UKIP and BNP supposed to be defending.[/i]
It might be in a history book somewhere but it's now so diluted you won't notice it.
I'll be voting UKIP cos Nigel Farage does a bit of sea fishing like me. Whereas I can't think of a single reason to vote for any of the other cranks who claim to have the best interests of the UK at heart.
I'm married to a former child protection worker who now trains the next lot of child protection workers, and I have to make the very important point that NONE OF THEM WEAR A SUIT
Sound like a typical episode of Clare in the Community.
My thoughts exactly.
Social Services say they need more foster carers yet the way they operate it makes foster carers feel the need to finish with it all.
It's still great to see a child bond and finally go with there adoptive parents though. Even though you do become very attached. 🙂
What exactly is 'British culture'? Cos I haven't got a clue what parties like UKIP and BNP supposed to be defending.It might be in a history book somewhere but it's now so diluted you won't notice it.
Thing is, thats the very nature of British culture, its something that accepts and adopts people and new influences from the people who come to it, and both end up richer for it, it has and always will be a moving goal, and has been since time immemorial as the saxons, then the vikings, then the romans came here, just like the jamaicans and indians and chinese and jews and everyone else.
What 'British culture' has never been about is the ghettoisation of immigrants with their own cultures and laws, rather than absorbtion and acceptance into the population at large.
The Socialist dinosaurs in the halls of Rotherham should take note that people of all backgrounds and political affiliations can see through their reasoning to remove these children from a safe and loving environment. People like Thacker won't change of course, their lives are wrapped up and invested in the dogmatic pursuit of a fractured and divisive but culturally sensitive society, without any common goals - these are the same people who sat in their office for years and deliberately turned a blind eye to widespread child abuse by gangs of asian men in the interest of protecting their multicultural nirvana, they have no interest in the welfare of these kids, just staying on the gravy train and covering their arses.
This was just about exposure to risk and arse covering. ATEOTD these are the people who are going to be in the shit if something goes wrong, so they have to be careful. Can't blame them for that I suppose. As long as the kids have another good home to go into, that's all that matters really.
The Socialist dinosaurs in the halls of Rotherham should take note that people of all backgrounds and political affiliations can see through their reasoning to remove these children from a safe and loving environment. People like Thacker won't change of course, their lives are wrapped up and invested in the dogmatic pursuit of a fractured and divisive but culturally sensitive society, [s]without any common goals[/s][b]with a "Common Purpose"[/b] - these are the same people who sat in their office for years and deliberately turned a blind eye to widespread child abuse by gangs of asian men in the interest of protecting their multicultural nirvana, they have no interest in the welfare of these kids, just staying on the gravy train and covering their arses.
suggested ammendment
you to can join in with the Common Purpose http://www.commonpurpose.org.uk/
or if you are a swivel eyed right wing loon 😉
Z11 you are just as guilty of fabricating some sort of little englander nirvana where all immigrants turned up on these shores and immediately started speaking the queens and ensured that tea and cucumber sandwhiches where served at 3-30 prompt every day.
and yet that all ended with this thackery woman??
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polsih people coming here and leaving their kids to sponge off the state?
we all know thats the standard ukip rant that gets this small but very vocal section of society fired up on a daily basis
(well that and something about the eu human rights law destroying our way of life)
I can see why it might be a cause for concern for social workers, even if ultimately they seem to have made the wrong call here.
[i]I'm married to a former child protection worker who now trains the next lot of child protection workers, and I have to make the very important point that NONE OF THEM WEAR A SUIT [/i]
Ms Thacker does...
The reason I said 'suit' was to indicate that this was a decision made further up the hierachy.
[i]Thing is, thats the very nature of British culture, its something that accepts and adopts people and new influences from the people who come to it, and both end up richer for it, it has and always will be a moving goal, and has been since time immemorial as the saxons, then the vikings, then the romans came here, just like the jamaicans and indians and chinese and jews and everyone else.
What 'British culture' has never been about is the ghettoisation of immigrants with their own cultures and laws, rather than absorbtion and acceptance into the population at large.[/i]
What, so the people of Britain just accepted the Saxons, Vikings & Romans? Bit confused like cos I always thought they came over raping & pillaging. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
Wev'e since been invaded a fair bit just without actually being at war, but I'm sure someone will say It's just other countries getting their own back after years of Imperialism.
What 'British culture' has never been about is the ghettoisation of immigrants with their own cultures and laws, rather than absorbtion and acceptance into the population at large.
Having lived in Leicester and worked as a secondary teacher there I beg to differ. I'd post class photos as proof but suspect that would be illegal. This will have to do:
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That map brings back memories.
Edukator, in the 90's my wife used to live about where the "A" in 'Belgrave' is, and she and her then boyfriend were the only white faces in her street. Nice friendly enough neighbours, and most of the shops would be open on Christmas Day. 😀 However in those days a white girl walking through Highfields was usually mistakenly assumed to be a prostitute as why else would she be there?
But don't let bitter lefties like us tell you about ghettiosiation.
I had a white girl in one of my classes, she was indeed a prostitute.
So your example to disprove my point is one that thoroughly emanates from after the 'multiculturalism' industry began? fantastic!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/may/28/equality.raceintheuk
When did the 'multiculturalism' industry begin in your opinion, Zulu? Oh and what is it? I've never heard of the 'multiculturalism' industry and the only Google results I get for "multiculturalism industry" are Canadian and Australian.
Considering migration history, the multiculturalism industry probably began several thousand years ago. Whatever it is.
You can't take one demographic map from one town and say that it proves multiculturalism results in polarised/"ghettoised" communities (that second word is an awful one to be using in a discussion like this anyway, by the way).
My bit of Reading is thoroughly multicultural and it works just fine, thanks.
You can't take one demographic map from one town and say that it proves multiculturalism results in polarised/"ghettoised" communities
Ah, but you can on STW
Ah, but you can on STW
Indeed. How many of the people so wise about multicultural communities actually live in one?
Sorry, shouldn't that read, how many people [b]do not live[/b] in a multicultural community?
The UK is one of the more mutlicultural societies that I have experienced supporting a wide range of cultures, races, religions, political persuasions, languages and dialects, traditions etc. Many of these have been bought into the UK over the centuries as we have been invaded and colonised by many nations as well as doing the same to others. Of course, it is very convenient for some to portray the UK as intolerant and Uni-cultural even thought that is a gross distortion of the truth.
Those who portray many parts of the establishment and society as being institutionally racist need to travel a bit to learn some perspective IMO.
My bit of Reading is thoroughly multicultural and it works just fine, thanks
I visited Reading in the Summer and understand why you don't see there's a problem. I also visited Birmingham and Leicester. I visited the poorest district of a city in the UK which just happens to be 90 odd percent immigrant occupied. What politically correct but misleading word do you want me to use to describe the place?
Even that Guardian article Zulu linked recognises that the city under-invests in the district and is being prosecuted for it.
So they manage to overlook years of systematic abuse by asians gangs but can spot and act at the outrage of the people voting.
Looks and smells like racism to me.
UKIP can't possibly be racist: here is Michael Fabricant on telly this morning suggesting a pact with them swapping non-competition on key seats for a referendum if/when they win next time. [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20496161 ][/url]
...and Farrage has been interviewed today saying the Conservative party would be better off ditching Cameron and getting a strong and capable leader such a Michael Gove.
This gets better and better. 😀
the Conservative party would be better off ditching Cameron and getting a strong and capable leader such a Michael Gove.
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To be fair, Gove is the perfect attack dog on this issue - the one person the lefties can't attack in any way the motives of when it comes to kids in care!
IanW - Member
Looks and smells like racism to me.
Ian, are you suggesting that racism is a multi-linear/lateral concept?
edit: Z11 - is that because its easy to attack people due to their appearances (as above)? Ironical I know!
well, indeed THM! However the fact that he was adopted as a child by a Labour supporting family pretty much paints [i]common purpose[/i] into a corner...
I'm convinced Michael Gove is actually an ongoing military experiment, to see if its possible to kill large groups of people by literally patronising them to death. It maybe hasn't worked yet, but he's dangerously close to perfecting his technique
No he is suggesting the white folk were racist to the white folk.
Its terrible being the persecuted majority who are persecuted by your own folk due to institutional racism or some such PC gone mad reason.
This threasd is hilarious who knew it was more fun to just let the right winger froth and post to their hearts content unchallenged. Some pure gems here and some humongous leaps of [ and i use the terms in as loose as is possible]logic.
I liked the person accusing me of supporting female circumscion because I said an religious child may be better brought up be a person of that religion than an aethist
Its frothing fallacy central on here.
oh please let the torrys have michael gove for a leader
the man is utterly bereft of original ideas and has far less charisma than his puppet look-a-like
Junkyard - Member
No he is suggesting the white folk were racist to the white folk.
Ok, we obviously read it differently! 😉
This threasd is hilarious ...froth....Its frothing fallacy central on here.
True, but IN THIS CASE, that is certainly a multi-linear/lateral accusation that sticks!! 😉
I'm convinced Michael Gove is actually an ongoing military experiment, to see if its possible to kill large groups of people by literally patronising them to death.
To be fair to him, teamhurtmore tries his best to compete with Gove on this front.
One doesn't [i]need[/i] to attack Gove for his appearance. He leaves plenty of ammo all over the place.
DD - quality post (in so many ways).
thm, I may have left out a 😉
(I think you took it how it was meant)
In the absence of the smiley, I took it a "face" value (excuse the bad pun)!
I thought everyone was out?
I'm convinced Michael Gove is actually an ongoing military experiment, to see if its possible to kill large groups of people by literally patronising them to death. It maybe hasn't worked yet, but he's dangerously close to perfecting his technique
I actually started laughing out loud in a room full of meeting type people...it was quiet too
I dont know the colour of the social workers.
They do appear to have a strange priorities which could just be incompetence(as previously shown ) but seems more likely to be the result of someone high up spouting the sort of guff you are well known for.
Either way the results are pretty poor.
Out?....
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Oi you lot, if your not careful this thread won't descend into hostile bickering. Pull your socks up and get back on track.