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[Closed] UFC 196: McGregor Vs. Dos Anjos

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Can McGregor do it this time?

I could go into a lengthy and somewhat ill-qualified attempt at punditry here, but instead, I'll just open with my instinctive response to [i]just looking[/i] at Dos Anjos:

"NOPE."

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Posted : 12/02/2016 2:52 pm
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No but half the blokes in my TKD club could kick his arse.


 
Posted : 12/02/2016 2:54 pm
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Wow it only seems like a few weeks ago he was fighting, I guess they go more often in MMA. No idea but that dude looks like he is cast in concrete.


 
Posted : 12/02/2016 2:55 pm
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that dude looks like he is cast in concrete.

Exactly that. Looks like you could hit him in the face all night and achieve nothing but broken knuckles.


 
Posted : 12/02/2016 2:58 pm
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Where is WML these days anyway?


 
Posted : 12/02/2016 3:00 pm
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Where is WML these days anyway?

Away on a remote island fighting in the Kumite


 
Posted : 12/02/2016 3:35 pm
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I love McGregor, I love the fact he thinks he is hot shit and can beat the whole world, I love the fact that he thinks he IS the UFC and I would absolutely love to see him get knocked out.

I just don't understand why nobody takes him to the ground...


 
Posted : 12/02/2016 5:30 pm
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After the last thread went so well it's nice that we get another go.

I read recently that John Kavanagh was talking about a potential move up to welterweight for McGregor after this fight. There's being confident and then there's taking the piss.


 
Posted : 12/02/2016 5:35 pm
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Yeah that's ridiculous. You could be the fittest guy in the world, there is no way he's fighting 6 times a year.


 
Posted : 12/02/2016 5:41 pm
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I just don't understand why nobody takes him to the ground...

Maybe you're being too subtle for me here, but Mendes had him on his back for most of the fight, dishing out some proper punishment in the process. However, in retrospect, McGregor got a lot of credit for how he managed it: conserving energy, landing a fair number of strikes from the bottom position and ultimately avoiding Mendes' guillotine, before getting back to his feet and knocking him out.


 
Posted : 12/02/2016 6:09 pm
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McGregor talked the talk and walked the walk against Aldo so respect earned. Potentially the sporting performance of the year given Aldos history. He's also usually 170 day to day so think he's in with a real shout given his movement and striking angles. Mano n Mano so gotta love the confidence as nowhere to hide and no one to blame!


 
Posted : 12/02/2016 6:18 pm
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Dos Anjos has been stopped by dropped by fighters less skilled at striking than mcgregor. If anyone beats him it needs to be one of these world class jujitsu guys and it'll be by choke.


 
Posted : 13/02/2016 3:57 am
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^ ^Lol @tinybits,TMA's FTW eh ! Lmao ...


 
Posted : 13/02/2016 12:44 pm
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You could be the fittest guy in the world, there is no way he's fighting 6 times a year.

His fights don't tend to last that long. The Notorious should win this one but i don't think he'll get as lucky in an Aldo rematch.


 
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^ ^Lol @tinybits,TMA's FTW eh ! Lmao ...

You know it's a joke?

Did you see the last UFC thread. Now you will LYAO if you read the stuff on there!


 
Posted : 13/02/2016 12:53 pm
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I can't wait. Also, I cannot bet against McGregor. That doesn't mean I'm 100% of course ๐Ÿ˜‰

RDA lacks an explosive shot, his wrestling comes from BJJ and he uses strikes to close distance. He's an incredible fighter BUT he's actually had something of a "lucky" run. Nick Diaz didn't show up to fight, and he has the perfect antidote to Pettis' style.

Pettis caught RDA numerous times as he was coming in and in the pocket, including a good few uppercuts. But he threw everything from his arms, backing up. I can't McGregor will be so easily backed up, nor will RDA be able to shrug off his uppercut so easily.


 
Posted : 13/02/2016 1:00 pm
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Eddie Bravo agreeing with WML:


 
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Haha...the last thread was my fav on STV ever!!

I really want Connor to win and I was a bit doubtful at first, physiologically I was thinking 'he's fighting bigger, stronger opponents at 155' but logically Connor is too big to fight at 145. The cut must take it's toll and therefore Connor may not even be his best, fittest or strongest at 145 at 155 I think he will be a power house, there are a fair few fighters who moved up to their natural weight and fought much much better.

Connors ring craft, fluidity, flexibility or speed should not deteriorate at 155 but his strength and power will be greater...I think he'll nail RDA! It ain't going be easy but I reckon he's got it!!

As for 170...probably one step too far, I reckon he may have Robbie but would struggle more with others in the division.


 
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As for 170...probably one step too far, I reckon he may have Robbie but would struggle more with others in the division.

Robbie would be a great match up for Conor. He's not that big for a WW and he likes to stand and trade even when he doesn't need to.

He might have an easier night against Lawler than he would with Alvarez or Nurmegamedov.


 
Posted : 13/02/2016 7:58 pm
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Conor might do OK against Robbie but he would get absolutely destroyed by Stephen Thompson based on last weeks fight against Hendricks.

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/Johny_Hendricks_vs_Stephen_Thompson_UFC_Fight_Night_82_Part_2/10121529


 
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Posted : 18/02/2016 1:27 pm
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McGregor is Taller and has a longer reach than RDA.

regarding the fignt frequency, didn't RDA fight after McGregor, just before christmas, when he beat Cowboy?

McGregor wasn't at 100% at 145. too small, too dehydrated. I think he'll do RDA in less than a round, I think his striking power will be too much.


 
Posted : 18/02/2016 1:47 pm
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Conor might do OK against Robbie but he would get absolutely destroyed by Stephen Thompson based on last weeks fight against Hendricks.

Really? Hendricks stood right in front of a bigger man, allowed himself to be bullied and hit at will and did nothing to alter the way the fight was going. looked slow, out of shape and devoid of any ideas.


 
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I agree. Hendricks looked in good condition, but fought like he was all about getting paid, and getting out of there.


 
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I think Hendricks just couldn't find a range that would let him do anything. Thompson was doing a good job of controlling the distance using the threat of kicks and then choosing when to strike.

This style of fighter is becoming more and more common in MMA. Justin Scoggins is another one worth a look.


 
Posted : 18/02/2016 10:05 pm
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Hendricks looked like a late stage AIDS victim. He was a shell. I think hes better when he's chunkier. However the IV ban probably means he can't carry the extra weight and still cut.

Anyone seen the promo stuff for Kimbo vs DADA 5000 tomorrow night? Cringeworthy. Not to mention Royce vs Shamrock. Bellator: setting MMA back 20 years ๐Ÿ˜ฅ


 
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Anyone seen the promo stuff for Kimbo vs DADA 5000 tomorrow night? Cringeworthy. Not to mention Royce vs Shamrock. Bellator: setting MMA back 20 years

I was listening about it on the Co-Main Event podcast*, and they were essentially saying the same. That even as a novelty it was all getting a bit much. Problem is they must be getting decent numbers with these things, so will keep doing it. To my shame, I will probably watch the fight after the event on the internet somewhere.

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....although, the CM Punk situation in UFC makes me raise an eyebrow as well.

*[url= http://www.comainevent.com/ ]Excellent MMA podcast in case anyone doesn't listen to it.[/url]


 
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If McGregors going to do it, it will be in the first, possibly the second. Any longer then its Anjos. My moneys on McGregor because he looks for the knockout and is willing to take a (hopefully glancing) hit to get it. Bigger doesn't always mean they're going to win, have you seen McGregor move?


 
Posted : 19/02/2016 12:04 am
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I think Hendricks just couldn't find a range that would let him do anything. Thompson was doing a good job of controlling the distance using the threat of kicks and then choosing when to strike.

Agreed. After Wonderboy side kicked Hendricks into next week, then faked the body and hit him with a headkick Johnny's game went out the window.


This style of fighter is becoming more and more common in MMA. Justin Scoggins is another one worth a look.

Yeah the Scoggins fight was impressive. That's one of the great things about MMA, it's constantly in flux and constantly evolving.

bongohoohaa

I was listening about it on the Co-Main Event podcast*,

Take a listen to "Let's get it on" and "Heavy Hands" while your at it.


 
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Will check them out. Just listening to [url= http://podcasts.joerogan.net/ ]Joe Rogan's latest.[/url] this morning. It's got Bas Rutten on there, who is as entertaining as ever.


 
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I just skipped through the Dada 5000 v Kimbo fight.

Everyone involved should be ashamed. I recommend watching it purely to amaze yourself that this shit was allowed to go ahead.

Probably the worse fight I have ever seen.

Final minutes: https://streamable.com/qlcj


 
Posted : 20/02/2016 6:40 pm
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Yip. Putting MMA back 25 years. Gracie vs Shamrock wasn't much better ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 20/02/2016 7:15 pm
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I think cardio was the real winner in that fight.


 
Posted : 20/02/2016 8:09 pm
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Probably the worse fight I have ever seen

Is there a non slow mo version of the end?

Also I have just discovered that using your chin makes for a fairly poor defence.


 
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Have to postpone the fight, surely? Who they going to get in with 2 weeks notice, with no time for a proper camp either, who will be ready/viable? Nate Diaz maybe? Obviously this means we would be denied several months of the most epic shit talking, but I can live with that. Only other person I can think of is Don-ald Cer-ro-ne.

Also, why does this keep happening to McGregor? First Aldo, so Chad Mendez had to come in, now this?


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 2:35 pm
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Cerrone has apparently said he'll fight.

Also talk of Diaz which would be a simply fantastic build up 8)


 
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Have to postpone the fight, surely? Who they going to get in with 2 weeks notice, with no time for a proper camp either, who will be ready/viable? Nate Diaz maybe?

Cerrone just fought, took no damage. Have to wonder at Diaz. He's bound to be game.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 3:11 pm
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Diaz v Mcgregor.

is the world ready for that amount of trash talk?


 
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Cerrone just fought, took no damage.

[url= https://twitter.com/Sholler_UFC/status/701816324901703682 ]Yup, and raring to go.[/url] So if he's ready to fight at [url= http://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-fight-night-london-2016?id= ]UFC London[/url], then no issue with the timing of the UFC 196.

On a sidenote, Bisping still getting fights always surprises me. If the UFC need a UK fighter for the marketing people, then just unban [url= https://streamable.com/5rcd ]Paul Daley[/url], as he is a machine.

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That DADA5000 bloke had a heart attack and suffered acute renal failure after his fight, according to what I just read he dropped 40lbs in two weeks prior to the fight, diuretics a go go ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

I thought MMA looked after their fighters


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 3:20 pm
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I thought MMA looked after their fighters

That's like saying I thought football looks after their players. It's not the sport that is at fault, it is the one organisation. In this case Bellator.


 
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That's like saying I thought football looks after their players. It's not the sport that is at fault, it is the one organisation. In this case Bellator.

Texas Athletic commission really are to blame here, or at least equally share the blame with Bellator. Medics used a "visual test" to determine whether Dada was too dehydrated to fight or not. Both he and Kimbo had passed all necessary medical tests.

I thought MMA looked after their fighters

Different U.S states or countries have different sanctioning bodies with different rules and different standards of testing. A fight promoter can enforce stricter tests than the state/national testing body, but not more lenient. The UFC's testing goes above pretty much any U.S state or national testing body in terms of fighter health and P.E.D use.


 
Posted : 23/02/2016 3:29 pm
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Who or what is Bellator? Know nothing about MMA as would of been seen in the legendary thread.


 
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They are one of the larger MMA organisations notorious for freak show match ups. They were recently bought by Viacom so the expectation is they will try and build an organisation equal to or greater than the UFC. Not like that they won't.


 
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