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Tucker Carlson saying “It’s okay, they have failed to destroy America”
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZS4Jrb2w/
(Apologies for TikTok but I’m not giving his YouTube any hits!)
Anyone else have a slight guilty wish to see things properly kick off over there? My rational brain doesn't but it wouldn't be boring! ☺️
Any thoughts on when we get put out of our misery…?
BBC are saying all counts should be complete in the next 24 hours. That doesn't mean Biden won't have 'won' before then.
They're also saying that the post-election fights will probably continue right up to the swearing in ceremony on the 10th of Jan.
Anyone else have a slight guilty wish to see things properly kick off over there?
Sheepishly raises hand. At this stage, a peaceful transition of power would be a massive anti-climax. 😀
username checks out 😀
Anyone else have a slight guilty wish to see things properly kick off over there? My rational brain doesn’t but it wouldn’t be boring! ☺️
I'm almost certain it will. With Trump Jr using words like "War" and the actual, real world President of the US speaking from the White House to say that their democracy is under threat, there's no way this is going to calm down any time soon. That speech alone last night will have created Domestic Terrorists who think they're doing the right thing.
his approach of lying and creating conflict is quite effective
If he gets kicked out after just one term he'll prove the opposite. Bush senior was the last to lose after one term and that was after Reagan's two full terms so three terms of republicans. Trump is set to lose only 4 years after taking over from the democrats.
He might end up losing by a whisker
He's going to lose the popular vote and electoral college by a substantial margin.
Any thoughts on when we get put out of our misery…?
Wikipedia says the US has 1,365 deployed Nuclear warheads... Just saying...
He might end up losing by a whisker, but clearly, his approach of lying and creating conflict is quite effective
The thing is, he won’t have lost by a whisker, he’ll have lost by well over 3 million votes, but due to the bizarre electoral college he will have failed to become president despite a clear popular preference for his opponent by a whisker.
To put this into context that is the entire populations of both Dakotas, Wyoming, Vermont, Alaska and the District of Columbia.
If I was Deutsche I’d have called them in well before now, they knew how much exposure they had to the don but the waiting is odd. Watching him have to sell golf courses will be funny.
I'd imagine they have had to wait due to some sort of legal protection he has as a sitting president, they're just in the queue like everyone else until January.
Sounds like the other networks are enjoying the Trump cult turning 100% against Fox this week.
In Pennsylvania trump's lead is now down to 18,000 - and reducing steadily - with 97% of the votes counted.
In Pennsylvania trump’s lead is now down to 18,000 – and reducing steadily – with 97% of the votes counted.
How many votes is 3%? Is it more that 18,000?
As in, could there be 25,000 votes still to count?
Edit: I agree entirely with this:
All of the votes have been cast, so it seems to serve no useful purpose other than to enable and stoke the divisive ‘we were winning and now it’s been taken away from us’ narratives that we are seeing. The need for a spectacle seems to override the binary nature of the vote…
It just seems to have turned it all into a bit of a gameshow.
I normally have little interest in the US elections, but this has been fascinating. I really hope Trump ends up in a proper jail and not a country club with a ten foot high fence around it. Sadly I don’t think that will happen. He’ll end up with his own TV show or something because this is America we’re dealing with.
Does anybody have a link to details of everything on the ballot? I need to know who’s winning Best Cat.
About 6.6 million votes in total. So around 200 000 left to count of which Biden will probably get over 70%. He should win. Edit: In Pennsylvania
My landlady is a lovely devout Christian and very tolerant but she was very upset about all this voter fraud with the mail in ballots and loads of Trump ballots being dumped and more Democrat ballots than there were people in the city etc, etc.
She'd seen it on TV.
The channel in question in Revelation TV.
It is pretty much as you'd expect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revelation_TV#:~:text=Revelation%20TV%20is%20a%20UK,and%20is%20also%20available%20online.
black votes matter
Joe Biden almost dropped out of the race to become the Democratic presidential nominee this year after several disappointing results in early voting states – until black voters in South Carolina delivered him a resounding win.
And while the race between Biden and Donald Trump remains too close to call, it appears Black Americans once again stepped up to give the Democrat the backbone of his support, especially in key battleground states including Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.
Record turnout among African American voters could be the difference between a Biden win and a Biden loss.
“What we’re all re-learning, both the pundits in DC and uninspired Black voters, is the value of our net worth when we show up at the ballot box,” said Antjuan Seawright, a Democratic strategist in South Carolina. “Even when we’re suppressed, depressed, or misinformed, we still show up.”
According to exit poll data, Black voters overwhelmingly backed the Democratic candidate by a margin of 87% to Donald Trump’s 12%. But Seawright had “been saying Black voters will decide the election since 2017”, last predicting South Carolina’s loyal Black moderates would propel Biden to victory in the state’s February Democratic primary.
With ballots still being counted, mail-in or absentee ballots from Democratic-leaning counties, most with large Black populations, are likely to be the deciding factor in who becomes the next US president, amplifying the power of the Black electorate.
Analysts pinpoint a surge in turnout among young people of all races, but especially Black Americans.
@crazy-legs up to date stats here: https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html
275k votes left to count. 18k deficit for Biden. Most vote batches are coming in with 80% for Biden which would mean about 165k in Biden's favour. If that keeps up, it won't even be within recount territory.
crazy-legs, 3% still to count in Pennsylvania is 195 - 200k votes.
I need to know who’s winning Best Cat.
Whichever wins, Donald'll grab it.
devout Christian and very tolerant
Never, ever met that combination.
Never, ever met that combination.
Perhaps you're intolerable?
Not many votes being counted according to that tracker. About 100 or so counted in the last 2 hours.
Not sure its right
Only "perhaps"? Try Googling "devout Christian" as opposed to just normal "Christian".
Never, ever met that combination.
I have. Tolerance cuts both ways.
Not many votes being counted according to that tracker.
What time of day is it there Graham?
Early morning, I guess from the live news updates I assumed they were continuing the count.
Recounts never change the outcome unless the difference between candidates is a few hundred votes.
Trump can request a recount in several counties in each state and the result will still be the same.
Only “perhaps”?
You're right.
No perhaps about it.
Try Googling “devout Christian” as opposed to just normal “Christian”.
I've met many devout Christians who are extremely tolerant. See also: Devout Muslims, Jews, Satanists, Jedi, athiests et al.
I've met many, many more who are intolerant arseholes.
They're just people. Tolerance is not a function of belief, despite what most religions attempt to teach.
Whichever wins, Donald’ll grab it.
This deserved at least some credit, if only for speed...
devout Christian and very tolerant
Never, ever met that combination.
You've met a fair few on here.
Politics AND religion in one thread. BOOOOOM!!!!!
Whichever wins, Donald’ll grab it.
This deserved at least some credit, if only for speed…
Indeed and from one of them there tolerant Christians too!
@Klunk
black votes matter
I think Trump’s condemnation of Black Lives Matter has hurt him badly there, though he probably made up for that with white “law and order” voters.
From what I’ve read on social media comments, most BLM were not particularly thrilled with Biden but we’re prepared to vote for him to get rid of Trump (to be fair I think that applies to many. Even Republican voters have said the same)
Analysts pinpoint a surge in turnout among young people of all races, but especially Black Americans.
I saw one analysis that showed how the electoral map would look if only the under 30s voted. All blue apart from the central states.
(Caveat: They didn’t give a source for their data and we know how accurate polls are on Trump votes!)
Not sure its right
Also in Penn.
31 minutes ago Trump 18,049 176,455 0 N/A Biden is averaging 80.0% Biden needs 54.47% [0.760%]
an hour ago Trump 18,049 207,247 0 N/A Biden is averaging 80.0% Biden needs 53.71% [1.027%]
an hour ago Trump 18,049 271,216 27 Trump 53.7% / 46.3% Biden Biden is averaging 80.0% Biden needs 52.69% [0.054%]
100,000 votes counted and the change was only 27??? Nah.
grahamt1980 - better sources are AP and CNBC.
I'm not particularly devout though.
Nor tolerant for that matter.
Luckily, i'm guaranteed forgiveness.
I normally have little interest in the US elections, but this has been fascinating. I really hope Trump ends up in a proper jail and not a country club with a ten foot high fence around it. Sadly I don’t think that will happen. He’ll end up with his own TV show or something because this is America we’re dealing with.
I don't see it. He's got enough money and power to keep the legal wheels spinning long enough to live out the rest of his life, and if that doesn't work and he suddenly finds himself in danger of being shackled in an orange jumpsuit in Court, he'll do a Carlos Ghosn and flee to Russia or somewhere.
I’ve met many devout Christians who are extremely tolerant. See also: Devout Muslims, Jews, Satanists, Jedi, athiests et al.
Me too, the better I got to know them the more I realised that the "devout" tag was inappropriate and would have better been replaced with "genuine". The devout ones were all like the many many more you've met because devotion is by nature exclusive and thus intolerant.
Ayhow enough of derailing a politics thread, back to the election. I shall desist.
he’ll do a Carlos Ghosn and flee to Russia or somewhere.
Tricky to do with a 24/7 security detail. Like all ex-presidents he knows the nation’s secrets. You don’t let people like that just waltz over to Russia.
Apparently Biden now in the lead in PA by 5000 or so
Luckily, i’m guaranteed forgiveness.
Left-footer?
I consider eternal forgiveness as the justified payback for a lifetime spent wracked with guilt and remorse, despite not quite being sure what I'm meant to feel guilty or remorseful about.
Seems only fair
CNBC now saying that Biden has taken the lead in Penn!!!
If true -
Pennsylvania
CANDIDATE VOTES PCT%
Joe Biden 3,295,365 49.47%
Donald J. Trump * 3,289,953 49.39%
Jo Jorgensen 76,312 1.15%
6,661,630 votes counted. Estimated >95% in* = Incumbent
https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/2020/general/pennsylvania