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Welcome to the United States of dystopia?
Although, people are probably looking at the uk with the same incredulous pity.
I hope labour are watching and learning. Even if Biden wins it is by way to tight a margin. It isn't enough to just not be the ****ups in charge, you actually have to offer a real alternative that gives hope.
Trump really has a lot of support and that probably means we have to rethink how we think about America.
I think most Europeans realised how dangerous a political leader America was a couple of decades ago, Trump cemented that fact. Unfortunately our political leaders haven't grasped the fact yet, they thought that Trump was a blip and could be brushed over and move on after 4 years. Well that just isn't the case the world needs to realign without the US at the helm for everyones good.
I reckon trump has got this.
looks like pennsylvania is going with ohio. 700,000 lead for tinkerbell
Trump really has a lot of support and that probably means we have to rethink how we think about America.
There was something on 'prime time' TV here yesterday, I'm not entirely sure as I wasn't paying attention, might've been the One Show. They did a 'man in the street' poll, folk chucking coloured balls into a box to vote for Trump / Biden. The result was exactly 50:50.
What are we rethinking, again?
You can’t polish a turd. But the Americans sure as hell are good at sprinkling the glitter.
Not just in America, I fear
hope labour are watching and learning. Even if Biden wins it is by way to tight a margin. It isn’t enough to just not be the **** in charge, you actually have to offer a real alternative that gives hope.
There is a lot of truth in what you say. However, the people have to listen. Biden has said he will protect medicare for pre existing conditions. Trump is in court next week to remove that protection. On the campaign trail Trump said he is going to protect pre-existing conditions.
If you as a voter can't see the problem there, no amount of talking about positive things by one side will help.
Looking at the number of electoral college votes left in the states to formally announce a result, Trump has won.
I fear America has injected itself with bleach
"we" don't need to rethink anything. This country is exactly the same, if Trump were a candidate for PM he'd probably win. With the exception of guns I don't think America is much more ****ed up than the UK.
Trump about to get on stage... likely to tell everyone how he’s being cheated...
Not what I wanted to wake up to
likely to tell everyone how he’s being cheated…
He already tweeted that. I'm guessing he'll call on Joe to concede or he sicks Guiliani on him.
Trump about to get on stage… likely to tell everyone how he’s being cheated…
Yep, except this time it seems it's Poland rather than Russia.
Looking at the number of electoral college votes left in the states to formally announce a result, Trump has won.
Biden only really needs 2 of at least 4 possibles still in play, including Georgia and that definitely wasn't supposed to happen
Ever feel like you are on the wrong side of history? I’m tired of waking up, looking at poll results and thinking WTF?
I dont think Trump's winning this. The mail in votes are likely to be hugely swayed to the democrats and in Georgia and Pennsylvania there are way more than Biden needs still to be counted. I think Biden will be declared winner this afternoon but Trump's lawyers will begin their nonsense. He's been preparing the ground for this for months now.
Pretty much ^^^^. Although for me, it's been working the night shift, watching the **** unfold!
But there is a glimmer of hope here. I'm not expecting good news, but you never know, eh?
I've been watching the CNN feed. They are NOT Trump fans! It's been interesting how scathing they are being.
There is a lot of truth in what you say. However, the people have to listen. Biden has said he will protect medicare for pre existing conditions. Trump is in court next week to remove that protection. On the campaign trail Trump said he is going to protect pre-existing conditions.
If you as a voter can’t see the problem there, no amount of talking about positive things by one side will help.
No, that is exactly the problem, Biden is just going to protect the crappy old compromise that no one really likes. He didn't lay out a better alternative plan for healthcare that anyone could get behind and campaign for. It's we will return you to same old life before Trump rather than build a better future.
I will make a prediction, although it might be tight this time, there will still be more non voting eligible voters, than votes cast for the winner.
I'm feeling the same sense of dread and bewilderment I felt the day after the Referendum result here. Wondering how so many people could be so catastrophically stupid.
How can anyone vote for that orange bastard. I can’t understand it. He’s an imbecile who can’t even string a coherent sentence together. No way would we have somebody like that in char......oh, shit.
have any of the us networks called it yet?... they usual have a good idea of how remaining counties will fall.
A packed Whitehouse briefing room including a bloke that looks suspiciously like R Kelly, and I’ve counted 2 masks. Here we go.
He didn’t lay out a better alternative plan for healthcare that anyone could get behind and campaign for. I
If he had, Trump would have - in fact did - say he had a plan, it was the best plan, it was the bigliest plan, the plan that did more than anyone elses plan ever. People swallowed that hook line and sinker. If you as a voter buy into that, which clearly a lot have, literally nothing the other side says will matter.
have any of the us networks called it yet?… they usual have a good idea of how remaining counties will fall.
I think the mail-in voting is causing unprecedented issues with this. There's usually many more votes counted by this point.
Why’s he speaking past tense?
He's talking on CNN. Oh, he such a *! That * face. That **** voice.
Morning. Glad I went to bed when it was obvious Trump had Florida. Seems I may have been right. Still possible for Biden to win but it’s so close it’ll be a repeat of 2000. He’s a shit candidate. Offers nothing different to what the voters rejected in 2016, and arrogantly thought Covid would get him elected. Bernie would have walked this.
looks like Biden has a chance of winning Georgia! (a lot of metropolitan votes still to be counted)
Send the asteroid now. Humanity as an experiment has failed.
arrogantly thought Covid would get him elected
True. The exit polls seemed like people were concerned with the economy first, covid was way down the list. Biden msread the mood badly thinking covid was the wedge issue.
Not sure Bernie is the answer to any question involving concerns about the economy.
Biden has taken Arizona.
And there it is...
He's just declared effective victory. Let the violence commence!
It will tighten but Boden needs to win a very large proportion of uncounted votes in the handful of swing states that could possibly go his way.
Civil war looking ever more likely, Trump stoking it more than ever. Christ.
Trumps speaking about results before have been announced. Claiming Biden threatened lawyers, that he’s won already, and will been cheated.
Its so hard to watch such a delusional fascist arrogant cock.
Yawn. Trump going to the supreme court he's just announced. With millions of ballots still to count. Pence says they're protecting the right to vote (but not to have your vote counted obvs.)
Why is Trump wearing a blue tie? Has he forgotten what side he is on?
Did he essentially just order the proud boys et al to go and 'observe' the ballot counting?
Wow.
What a worrying time for so many in the USA.
This will go on for weeks now, surely? He isn't going to back down, and will do everything legal and illegal to get that win.
Fox called arizona, which is good
Why’s he speaking past tense?
Becuae he’s going to the Supreme Court to stop the counting, like he said he would. Holy ****, what a ****.
Fox called arizona, which is good
Interesting. No one else has.
How can an election be held in a democratic country when the rules of the election aren't properly known and agreed in the first place? I find this whole idea of going to the courts to verify/change the rules midway through absolutely bewildering!
Fox called arizona, which is good
Complete nonsense from Trump. He's upset Arizona has been called, but wants all the others declared now in his favour. Even this supreme court would just laugh?
whole idea of going to the courts to verify/change the rules midway through absolutely bewildering!
Midway, months after the fact, they have a proud history of it, string in 1867. When the courts don't do what you want you have a riot. Google the Brooks Brothers Riot.