[Closed] Training and diet talk...

[i]Are you discussing health or fitness?[/i]

I'm not sure we're [i]discussing[/i] anything.

TSY just decided to unpin a grenade and big-up the [i]advice[/i] handed out by a previous contributor to [i]another[/i] diet thread.

Although, the use of the word " Healthy " might be a give-away.
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Although, the use of the word " Healthy " might be a give-away.

its easy for fat people to say they're healthy because they can do 5k on a treadmill,

TSY.
Imo, your approach to understanding this topic is fundamentally flawed.
I ask you again, how can you observe any diet related effects to your body weight, when you exercise execcssively.

DD, woohoo!

And wtf does my laptop not load training peaks properly but displays images like ^^ Gggrrr!

And that poor girl in the marathon was incredibly fit, but not, as it turned out, very healthy.

indeed, there's a chance yeti might be very fit but not very healthy.... knowing how much crack he's smoked over the years i expect he'll just stop posting one day and i'll find out via an awkward text from his phone written by his ashamed mother that he passed away whilst indulging himself in a crack fuelled sadomasochistic act of self relief in a public area. that's not healthy is it.

[i]TSY, how many hours a week do you exercise? [/i]

Apparently, he's in the gym, at the mo.
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that's not healthy is it.

I'm back 🙂

12-20 hours I'd guess.

So, does Mr X need a little learning up ?.

I certainly did.

Which is why I don't knock your choices.

I maintain.
You simply shouldn't rely on running around like a headless chicken, in order to control your waistline and to mitigate bad food choices.

Neither Edukator or myself have advocated that someone should.

I can't quite figure you out Solo. What led you down the path of needing to focus on your diet in such a way? What did you used to eat?

Essentially I don't believe that porridge is unhealthy. Nor do I think that eating brown bread, or even a French stick, a couple of days a week is unhealthy.

I never have, not as a child or now, eaten large quantities of sweets or developed a habit of treating myself with food.

Oh, and finding out more about DD has made me love him all the more... you're one special guy x x

I never have, not as a child or now, eaten large quantities of sweets or developed a habit of treating myself with food.

i did, father away so stuck in the house with a mum and sister who at one point both won slimmer of the year in the same year as each other meant my relationship with food was a bit silly from a young age.

despite my relationship with food, yo-yoing weight over the years etc, i couldn't be as interested (being honest... its appears outwardly as obsessed when reading your posts) in every little detail of the food we eat as you solo.

12-20 hours I'd guess.

I'd not class what you do as excessive but a sprint tri before work might be 😛

[i]Neither Edukator or myself have advocated that someone should.[/i]

Ed advocated eating whatever he thought to be correct.
What he didnt account for was types like Molgrips and my Ex.
Nor did he consider, imo, people who move about a lot less than he did.
A retiree !.
You know ?, someone with a lot of time on their hands.....

So all those posts where you have declared that you've just eaten loads of mini egss, or whatever junk food you can get hold of.
You're telling sedentary types its ok to eat like this in addition to the foods you and Ed advocate ?.
The bread, the pasta.
Well thats fine for you, you exercise more than a lot of people, ime.

[i]I can't quite figure you out Solo. What led you down the path of needing to focus on your diet in such a way? What did you used to eat?[/i]
Obviously.
I shall explain it again, shall I ?.
I'm office based, desk bound worker, right ?.
Like now, when I'm the last person here, pissin about on a keyboard instead of being home and fixing up my next bike.
I'v worked this way for years.
I looked around me, in the offices I've been to and I saw all those 50 somethings who are all overweight, after a career in the office.
That excess weight will have an effect on their future health, if they don't sort it, which most do not.

Was this my fate ?.
Was I to become 50 and fat ?.
Well, it looked like it until I found a few types on here referring to iDave way back when.

They were reporting that this fella was worth heeding and shortly after discovering iDave, he happened to unleashed upon the universe, the iDave Diet.

So I gave it three weeks, but also started to try to look into what is behind the fat production process of the human body.

The rest, as they say, is history.

Are you getting me so far, sweet heart ?.

[i]Essentially I don't believe that porridge is unhealthy. Nor do I think that eating brown bread, or even a French stick, a couple of days a week is unhealthy.[/i]
Define unhealthy.
Just because you [i]believe[/i] something [b]is not[/b] unhealthy, is this a reason to eat it?.

[i]I never have, not as a child or now, eaten large quantities of sweets or developed a habit of treating myself with food.
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So what you're saying is that you've missed out on developing some eating habits that now, in retrospect, you would have considered not to be a good idea.
Can you see that others may not have been so lucky ?.
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So the coach has worked you out and is assuming that you'll go off on your own to do hill-reps or specific speed work if you feel you need to!

MrsYeti now works at the gym. If she's on early shift and we've lift shared I've got up to 3 hours of time I can use before work! Hence the Sprint this morning.

[i]I'd not class what you do as excessive but a sprint tri before work might be[/i]

I have rarely met anyone who exercises as much as TSY.
And I've been around.
So I feel safe in claiming that TSY's level of activity is not typical.

I've never met anyone who does the Paleo diet Solo?

Fair point though.. out of the 3000+ members of the gym, only <5% do as much as I do.

I really should have a more manual job, ideally outdoors. Although when I was doing landscape gardening I went to the gym on my way home 🙂

Of course... the rest of the gym population proportionately reflects the national statistics for obesity levels though.

So what has everyone got planend for this week?

This is my first proper week of coaching and its taking a bit to get my head round following a proper plan, instead of doing what i like!

I am having a complete confidence crisis about my riding ability/fitness though, not helped by the fact that there's a fairly big race in 2 weekends time that i'd like to do well in and its my first time racing as part of the team. Everyone in the team has been on their training plans since October so i'm starting my plan 6 months later than everyone and feeling like i'm playing catch up. Please help my confidence come back

Molly, mustard and i might be down in wales in july. 10m tt challenge in July?! Actually TSY this is for you too as we will probably come visit on the way there/back and go for a ride with you 😀

Nah you're 6 months ahead of everyone else!

You've just got the added advantage of having some training races over the next few months in the build up for the 2013 season.

When in July?

There's a 10mile TT at Castle Combe race track on July 18th (wednesday evening).

I've been doing a bit of experimenting with my diet this week and eating loads of sugary treats.

Cookies.
Cakes.
Chocolate.
Biscuits.
Plus more bread than usual.

I don't think that the food in itself has an impact on weight loss or gain if you can eat the same calories as you would of 'healthy' food.
The problem is that it's all so damn moreish... it definitely pushes my body into peaks and troughs of energy and encourages me to eat more and more crap to feel like I have energy.

I'm going to stick to cakes at night from now on.

one small sugary snack a day then spend the rest of the day fighting off the craving for more.... its how real men do it.

Real men do it with cigarettes!

You riding this weekend?

it'd be rude not to, when's good for you? Sunday is a no go at swinley cos of the gorrick race taking over the place... i'd recommend bringing the 456 instead of the covert due to the MUDFACTOR-XTREEM 😀

it'd be rude not to, when's good for you? Sunday is a no go at swinley cos of the gorrick race taking over the place... i'd recommend bringing the 456 instead of the covert due to the MUDFACTOR-XTREEM 😀

This weekend I have my first ever 2upTT and a road race the next day. If i survive both, I will enter Ireland's stage race to end my racing season in style. Eeeeekkk!

Hmmmm... I don't do mud at the moment... was thinking of bringing mrsYeti but don't know what her plans are at the moment. She does want to go to GoApe at some point too.

You'll be fine Dirty... as long as you keep your head! When are you an Molly racing?

awww man, the muds a gooooood core work out though as the bikes constantly messing about underneath you 😀

mud never bothered you before... thought you liked a bit of rough? 😉

I do. Especially in the form of Tulissa or Stacey off of Eastenders.
What happened to that thread? I went to lunch and came back... ??

Yeah, my bikes hang on the wall in my living room now and I hate cleaning them.... getting bloody good at hopping puddles.

Quick update:

Almost at the end of week three. The wife's still losing weight and mine's still at the low end (71kg) of my normal range (72-75kg), but consistently at that low end. I've lost fat but not any appreciable weight, so must be gaining muscle mass?

I've started having two slices of (reasonably low GI) home-made sourdough bread with breakfast, because I like baking it and it's tasty gorgeous. So, cheating a little, but not much.

Still very thirsty on the last couple of days before cheat day.

I like bacon. Mmmm, bacon.

Good work Mike.

Just another 28 updates from you and this thread can die.

[i]Still very thirsty on the last couple of days before cheat day.[/i]

I've increased my coffee intake recently and have noticed increased dehydration.
If you see what I mean.

This has resulted as increased Thurst.

[i] Good work Mike.

Just another 28 updates from you and this therad can die.
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Ha !, good one Mike.

You've irritated TSY.

Obviously he can't take what he gives out.
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Solo - far from it you great gala....

If he posted 28 more times we would hit the big 1000!

Now I just need 25.

I had a fitness assessment at my circuits at the weekend.

I did ok. Supposedly I am wearing the wrong colour bib, but I ain't changing up. 🙂

Hey.

TSY.

I have something for you.

What did the assessment tell you DD.. what do the bibs mean?

When did the glitch start getting all glitchy with this many posts left to go??

Well.

I can't be doing with these fricking STW forum hampsters always striking without notice.

glitch

What did the assessment tell you DD.. what do the bibs mean?

Me explain laterz. Circuitz nowz.

Coool. I'm going to prance around the gym in a weights vest.

Wow, McD's does salad! Grilled chicken salad with black coffee for tea under the Golden Arches. Just about to tuck into a veg omelette.

(Are we at 1000 yet?)

Is anyone still following this?

Some lurkers maybe?

Anyway it's Friday and it's training talk time.

Everyone keeps saying... "all the power comes from your core"... so...

What're your favourite core exercises?

My personal fav's at the moment are, hollows, pilates 100's and ham/glute raises.

The Southern Yeti - Member
Everyone keeps saying... "all the power comes from your core"... so...
What're your favourite core exercises?

Plank with tap outs and X-I's doing it for me at the moment 🙂

Planks with one arm rope prowler pulls killed this morning (if that ridiculous description makes no sense - 15m long ship rope with weighted prowler sledge attached. In plank position pull sledge full length of rope using one arm - hips and front remain static and parallel to floor. Switch ends of track and arm then finish with 20 kettle bell swings.

As fast as you can manage x 3

My PT is really into the whole KB / sled / prowler / tyres / sandbag and sledgehammer thing. Keeps things interesting...

Woffle - welcome.

Those sound awesome! Not got a sledge at the gym but plates on a towel might work.