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Not really Kev. Load of arguing and silliness really. Last couple well worth reading for my bits about the community garden scheme though.
Grantway; I'd imagine every town centre in the poorer areas will be expecting trouble over the next few days. I just hope and pray the numbskulls out causing trouble get it out of there systems asap, and calm the flip down.
I doubt the police will be particularly effective in places like Bow, Romford etc. But if Canary Wharf was targeted, on the other haynd, you can guarantee the police will be there in huge numbers...
hey oh
bumpity bump for the glitch
Police have been so demoralised by liberal hadwringing over the years that they no longer undertsnd that their job is to protect the population and prevent criminality
Why do people keep rolling out this crap..........is it just an involuntary knee-jerk reaction ?
How the **** does anyone expect the police to deal with the situation which has arisen today ? I'm sure the police fully "understand that their job is to protect the population and prevent criminality" FFS.
Now might be a good time to buy shares in Cash Converters.
so you're brought up on tv and advertising to need and want all these goodies. Then there's an opportunity to go ransack curries and footlocker and get away with it. 15 year old Capitalism in action. You've got what I want and I'm taking it cos I can! These kids learn fast!
RealMan - MemberNow might be a good time to buy shares in Cash Converters.
or glazing firms....
All quiet in Clapham. I'm up in six hours to go to the US Embassy. I'm sure that'll be all low key tomorrow then. Not 🙂
night all...
were you not even slightly tempted to get yourself a "free" box of sneakers Chipps.
holy crap! that massive sainsburys distribution depot in Waltham Abbey is ablaze. That thing is huuge!
Someone really needs to take away the children's matches.
but waltham abbey is middle england, is it not?
Not too far from Enfield.
Its the sony distribution centre thats gone up,kev.
I got a good night sleep. There will be officers in Lomdom who have probably been awake close to 24hours+ serving the people.
ill informed ranting aside -spesh spenner-
I expect a lot of stuff to be turning up on ebay soon
but waltham abbey is middle england, is it not?
Waltham Abbey is a has been town, a bit of a tumble weed back water, it is considered a country abode by scroates and bottom of the food chain drug dealers who find it an easy ticket free commute into Edmonton.
It is famous for David Beckham having brought pie n mash from a local shop. Once.
Realman - That short video is a perfect little illustration of what's going on. Also shows that despite the assertions of the far right, it's **** all to do with ethnic minorities and more to do with scum.
It wasn't like this when the Krays and Richardsons were in charge of policing in London
Now that it's newspaper editors paying them off, the place has gone to the dogs
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Spesh Spenner you're due a reporting for that; but I can't be arsed. Apathy innit.
feral immigrants
I don't think he's too far wrong if you are talking about London and 1st/2nd generation. Sounds harsh but there is an element sadly.
Oh, that village idiot will be along soon with his rampant mouth to comment 🙁
someone earlier said the BNP would do well out of this, Spesh Spenner's comments are the reason if it happens. Someone has to be to blame, easiest thing to do is blame the immigrants, how long till we see someone say it was the muslims at fault?
reality it is scum who think they can get away with it, black, white makes no difference.
how long till we see someone say it was the muslims at fault?
What that their businesses are going up in flames?
This is being done by people who dont want to do a days graft. There will be lots of hardworking Asians businesses (as seen on tv) being looted and burned.
Diane Abbott's just been on Sky News saying we can't abandon them and when it's all overr we need to help them, discuss.
Impossible. Feral means its too late. To 'help' you need to break the cycle of fatherless males getting young girls pregnant who then have no help or ability to steer the next generation of rudeless children growing up with a skewered set of morals.
Your firmly into Eugenics/social engineering and we can't go there so an element of our society will always be beyond the fringe.
There are calls to ban smoking when children are in the car. Its ridiculous that we even have to consider telling people what is common sense but our society has layers of people who really don't have a grasp of common sense let alone a sense of duty or values.
Well said Hora, so what's the answer
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Black people can also be british.
Not immigrants.
Youthickf@ckers.
You manage them throughout their adult lives using Social services, the Police, the probationary service then ultimately the Ambulance service.
Its depressing but there is nothing you can do.
A section/% of any society will always be beyond wanting help. You need to accept that. If a Liberal believes 100% of people can be model citizens then they are sadly very wrong.
Everyone has levels of decency that falter/alter from time to time but the vast majority of society will be good.
You can't convert everyone.
reality it is scum who think they can get away with it, black, white makes no difference
Sadly that's not how it'll be remembered, it will due to the shooting and the geography of the trouble be seen as a 'Black' problem....
I'd not worry about the BNP, they are weak
And ironically the Muslim population seems to be the most active in protecting property and families.
BenHouldsworth - Member
Well said Hora, so what's the answer
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Means and IQ testing - if you fail you're immediately sterilised for the benefit of others
Hmm maybe my comment on 1-2nd generation is abit misdirected. Possibly 3-4 generation is more accurate. Everyone on here- remember black on black/Trident crime is a huge problem in London. If we discuss this it doesn't make you racist.
Fatal stabbings almost every week and now this - glad I don't live in our glorious capital.
I fully accept there is an ever growing group that is beyond help/useful integration but aside from managing their 'symptoms' are just heading towards more defined ghettoes and them and us?
What that their businesses are going up in flames?
WTF ......... you are applying "logic" to morons who might support the BNP ? 😕
Idiots like spesh spenner who come out with bollox such as [i]"immigrants bringing shame to our country"[/i] are also just as likely to tell you that 'immigrants come to the UK to steal our jobs', whilst in the same breath claim that they are all work-shy spongers who come over here to live off our "generous" benefit system.
Intelligent logical thought is not their forte.
I'd not worry about the BNP, they are weak
OK maybe not the best party to use, but as is the way politicians will use it to their advantage, and as Oldgit has mentioned it will be seen as a black problem, so it will easily be twisted to be a race issue and not a scum issue.
What can you do? many of those out there are unemployable, low numeracy and low numeracy, we don't live in an era where you could send them off to fight for king and country, send them down the mines, the ship yards etc. You can't make them work, if there were jobs for them, if someone doesn't want to work you can't make them.
If we remove all benefits what does that achieve,
Lots of viewpoints expressed here show exactly why the rioters feel excluded from society and opportunity.
To cure the problem for future generations would mean foreceable birth control which is even a bigger minefield on democracy and human rights.
IMO in any society there are always elements that don't want to tune in and work, pay taxes, contribute, be good citizens. They just want free money.
Some of them say 'its cos we don't have any prospects or jobs'.
Even if you offered them £50,000 each and all they had to do was turn up at 9am every morning and sit there within two weeks they'd be fired for not showing for work. Some people just want free money and no hassle.
Lots of viewpoints expressed here show exactly why the rioters feel excluded from society and opportunity.
I've said this before- go to certain sections of Brixton or East London at night and you'd sh*t yourself. Me included. Why should we feel scared to be in our own country? Its about bling, drugs hookers and PEER PRESSURE.
I'm abit angry- not much sleep as my Sister in law lives in central Birmingham above a small Sainsburys that was looted/smashed up. Police came and went then it was relooted en-mass in the early hours. She lives alone and I had to sit there powerless worrying what if it goes like Croydon'?
I couldn't get to Birmingham either as the Police have sealed off the ringroad inwards.
If you're claiming some sort of intellectual superiority based on that quality I'd social analysis, you might be in for a rude awakening if they take up your suggestion.
They are not excluded, they are welcome to join us but certain behaviours and contributions are expected.
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I see people are Twittering a riot cleanup, but I think I'll stay in and have another fair trade coffee and tut at the news I'm seeing.
They are not excluded, they are welcome to join us but certain behaviours and contributions are expected
Ah, you see we'd expect them to work and get out of bed following a routine.
Its easier to say 'they aint no jobs'.
You could go back earlier and say education failed them but if you ever went to a rough school (or teach in one) you'll probably know theres an element who disrupt and are not interested.
Its called 'parents'. They are the cause.