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*Definitely not advisable to reproduce the images on here*

There are photos doing the rounds on FB and Twitter at the moment which claim to show the adult Jon Venables.

The idea of a man hunt to find and kill someone who committed (a horrific) crime when he was just 10 seems barbarian. But then again, after rereading the history of the Bulger murder, it does stir up quite a few rage like emotions.

Reading the comments on FB is disturbing though, so many very very angry people, quite scary.

I don't suppose there is an easy answer to the question of whether it's right for him to be at liberty now, or whether it would be different it he had been just a few years older, but something about this intense hatred resulting from the actions of a 10 year old boy some 20 years later is quite disturbing.

"Lock him up for good" or "He's served his time, leave him be"?


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:22 am
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This will not end well


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:26 am
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He's clearly still a disturbed individual.

The demonisation and subsequent witch hunt does raise questions about the mental stability of those doing it though.


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:26 am
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If you've not seen it, then its worth watching [url= http://www.channel4.com/programmes/boy-a ]Boy A[/url]. Based on the book, It covers this subject sensitively and intelligently.

Those people baying for blood are the ones who were firebombing the houses of pediatricians a few years back.


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:27 am
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I do question the wisdom of letting him out, and the risk of re-offending.
But re the general public being angry about it - some people just like the excuse to be angry...


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:30 am
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Venables, now 30, had his parole revoked in 2010 and was jailed for two years after admitting downloading and distributing indecent images of children.
source: the Guardian

So he's not what you'd call a fully reformed character. Surely there's a case for him to be taken into protective custody, removed from the community at large, for everybody's ( including his own) sake?


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:32 am
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Cheers binners, I'll have a watch.

The thing I find most odd, is that people don't talk about wanting to hunt down and kill even the most prolific serial killers, yet the mere mention of the Bulger murder sends people into a crazed state.

I know emotions run higher when a child is involved, but the hysteria surrounding this particular case seems to be unprecedented?


 
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Those people baying for blood are the ones who were firebombing the houses of pediatricians a few years back.

One has to wonder about such people who are quick to attack anything in such a manner, whether they themselves may have things they want to keep hidden, and that the inner conflict they suffer as a result, manifests itself in overt aggression and violence. The 'peadophiles' etc simply become a conduit through which they can channel their inner rage, and in some way be vindicated/justified in being who they are.

Just a thought.


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:35 am
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The thing I find most odd, is that people don't talk about wanting to hunt down and kill even the most prolific serial killers

I would hazard a guess that there are two reasons for this, please correct me if I'm wrong:

1.Those identified as prolific serial killers are behind bars and unlikely to be let out.

2.People don't fancy their chances against prolific serial killers...


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:36 am
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[i]I know emotions run higher when a child is involved, but the hysteria surrounding this particular case seems to be unprecedented[/i]

Yeah, but then we look at your choice of user name and wonder why you think its funny to have a user name which when spoken, sounds like pedofile.


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:37 am
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Tough one but I am not on the side of the braying idiots that's for sure.

Same re Hyndley etc, though Brady seems pretty despicable.


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:39 am
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Yeah, but then we look at your choice of user name and wonder why you think its funny to have a user name which when spoken, sounds like pedofile.

Who said I thought it was funny?


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:40 am
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[i]Who said I thought it was funny? [/i]

what did you think?


 
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[i]Who said I thought it was funny?[/i]

I think its in poor taste and normally I avoid reading anything you post.
I am offended that you think its acceptable to have such a user name.

EDIT:
I'm logging out.


 
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Still dont understand why people think being criminally responsible at the age of 10 to the point of warranting handing out life/death sentences to a child is okay in a civilized society.

If the uk public had got their way they would have been strung up on cranes iran style when they were kids.


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:45 am
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Umm isnt peter File his actual name? Have you considered that?


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:48 am
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I think its in poor taste and normally I avoid reading anything you post.

Seriously?

Poor taste perhaps, but shielding yourself from it?

It's from a scene from the IT crowd which I thought was pretty funny. I don't think paedophiles are funny, but I do think plays on words can be.


 
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Lol


 
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[i]Have you considered that? [/i]

yes, although both his stw profile and blog he links to from it would tend to strongly suggest it isn't.

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[i]Who said I thought it was funny? [/i]
[i]It's from a scene from the IT crowd which I thought was pretty funny.[/i]

errm. You?


 
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If my last name was File I'd start my user name with [i]Bastard[/i]


 
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I think its in poor taste and normally I avoid reading anything you post.
I am offended that you think its acceptable to have such a user name.

EDIT:
I'm logging out.

Flounce alert!


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:50 am
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I'm more offended that he thinks The IT Crowd is funny 😉


 
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I think its in poor taste and normally I avoid reading anything you post.
I am offended that you think its acceptable to have such a user name.

EDIT:
I'm logging out because I hurt myself falling off such a high horse.


 
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Scrap that - I'd just go by the name of Bastard...


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:51 am
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I avoid reading anything you post

To be fair, I avoid reading what he posts too, I'm normally too busy looking at the pictures 😉


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:52 am
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Uh? What's happening here? Has peterfile done something bad?


 
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Scrap that - I'd just go by the name of Bastard...

Alan Teasel-B'stard
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Posted : 15/02/2013 11:55 am
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I was pretty messed up as a 10 year old.

I remember fantasizing about hurting other children.

It wasn't my fault. I had to put up with stuff that kids just shouldn't have to put up with.

I did some pretty bad stuff in response. I put a kid in hospital with a fractured jaw when I was 11. I remember taking a knife to school and threatening someone with it.

I didn't do anything remotely as bad as Venables and Thomson; maybe I never would have and that's the difference between them and me.

I don't know what any of that means, but I cannot bring myself to completely condemn the 10 year old boys that did what they did because they were just 10 year old boys.


 
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[i]Has peterfile done something bad? [/i]

been asked to justify having a username that sounds like paedophile when spoken.

It's ok, he isn't really one - turns out it's a joke.


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 11:56 am
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I can't be bothered finding the link, but there was a similar case in Sweden at about the same time. Difference was that everyone was shocked of course, but also understood that the perpetrator was a child. The child got extensive help, psychological treatment and counselling, and the story wasn't a media circus.

This country, and this country's media, has an obsession with "feral children" which really isn't accurate or helpful.

Oh, and I got the IT Crowd reference right away - sad or what?


 
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Has peterfile done something bad?

No... Solo just went all paedofinder general on him 🙂


 
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I didn't do anything remotely as bad as Venables and Thomson; maybe I never would have and that's the difference between them and me.

or maybe being fortunate enough not to meet someone who encouraged you is the difference. I was pretty mental as a kid, hospitalised a couple of others and was banned from the playground for a wile as a result. Sometimes I wonder how far away from complete psycho I might have been


 
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Reminds me of the 'Eddie Hitler' character in 'Bottom'.

Inappropriate? Probably. Insensitive? Definitely. Funny? **** yeah!


 
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or maybe being fortunate enough not to meet someone who encouraged you is the difference

Maybe. It got so bad in the end I was sent to see a 'specialist' but that was pretty far down the line; the problems had already been going on for five years before anyone accepted what was happening.

Oh and the psycho remark. Quite. There's a lot more to that comment for me than just a quip.


 
Posted : 15/02/2013 12:02 pm
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I don't understand.
I'm logging out.
Well, I might shut down the browser tab, but I won't actually log out, cos that would be a pain next time I come back I'd have to log in and how inconvenient would that be?
Actually I'm not even closing the browser tab, cos there's another thread I'm interested in, so I'll click on that one. Yes.


 
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The thing I find most odd, is that people don't talk about wanting to hunt down and kill even the most prolific serial killers, yet the mere mention of the Bulger murder sends people into a crazed state.

The most prolific serial killers tend to be locked up for life and have their eyes gouged out, necks hacked at with medium sharp instruments, etc.

Venables tortured and murdered a toddler, went to jail, came out and is now a convicted pusher of paedophilia.

Does that help to shed light on the difference between the two?


 
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Doing what he did so young was terrible but he deserved a second chance, now he's had his second chance and it comes to light he's a [s]peter[/s]paedofile, I think it's safe to say he is always going to be a deviant, disturbed individual and a danger to others.


 
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I just avoid reading anything peterfile says cos he's fullasheet. 🙂

(I did once have a pop at him for his username ages ago but having had RealLife(tm) dealings with him, he's actually a really sound bloke. Perhaps I was having a handwringing day at the time.)


 
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I've never quiet understood why more anger hasn't been directed towards the abandoning parent of poor James (he could equally have been injured by broken glass in the store, electrocuted on a faulty ride, fallen over and hurt his head), and the parents that made those children the monsters they were.

Also, not sure why the authorities and media didn't ignore the photos, instead of broadcasting that they ere out there. Ignoring them would have given the impression they were fake.


 
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I can never understand why when anything bad happens in Liverpool the fallout, recriminations and wailing goes on for years and years and years.

Anywhere else in the country the fuss dies down in a few weeks.

Is it because the word "victim" suits the scouse accent so well?


 
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This aint going to end well...5....4....3...


 
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Looks like I got here just in time for the, erm....Well. You know, that thing that happens to these threads.


 
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You are Boris Johnson and I claim my 5 English pounds! La

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Wow big John wonders why this event has bad such an impact on acom.unity and has a pop at scousers for this. it seems the issue is on the internet and not just in Liverpool. I doubt child killers killing children blows over in a few weeks anywhere and a fairly offensive and insensitive post
the original event made me despair for humanity and this thread has dome nothing to make me feel more optimistic. Personally I would not use a play on peadofile for my log on for reasons that dont need stating


 
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Unbelievable. 🙁


 
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