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I know its unlikely to cause offence to non-Muslims although it obviously has offended a large number of people, but has anyone actually seen it?


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:13 pm
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What's the title of the video/movie/film? I want to see what the big deal is.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:15 pm
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Yes. It's laughably bad.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:16 pm
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"The Innocence of Muslims" IIRC. Not seen it myself, but I'm sure there's plenty of hateful and offensive stuff on the internet which I haven't felt the need to seek out either.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:17 pm
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"The Innocence of Muslims" IIRC. Not seen it myself, but I'm sure there's plenty of hateful and offensive stuff on the internet which I haven't felt the need to seek out either.

Thanks. Will watch it tonight.

Even the title of the film is a major wind up by the looks of it. 😆

I bet the director can see them coming i.e. people going ape shite. 😆


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:21 pm
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You're not missing much - it's no Life of Brian.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:22 pm
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You're not missing much - it's no Life of Brian.

Life of Brian has set the standard too high ... 🙄

Could someone please make a better one please as Dear Leader is bored.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:24 pm
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Just so you're all aware - the film was not the actors' intentions. It's been dubbed, badly.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:26 pm
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What,this one?


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:30 pm
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I've seen bits of it, it's unintentionally hilarious... Though since it's entire purpose is to cause muslims worldwide to spazz out, it's probably not all that funny on balance.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:37 pm
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It clearly isn't a documentary. Why do peope get so animated by it?

Am I the only person who doesn't find Life of Brian funny?


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 1:08 pm
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Rorschach:

What,this one?

I came here to make sure this had been posted.

Good work, soldier.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 1:08 pm
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Ive seen it, think team america style disguises with real life people and you start to get the picture. The director obviously knows the only way peopple will watch it is if its surrounded by controversey. Ive seen the 10mins thats on you tube and it is appallingly bad- acting, effects, plot 😆
Considering how laughable it is its very sad that people have died over this piece of dog dirt.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 1:16 pm
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Am I the only person who doesn't find Life of Brian funny?

I think you their "get" Monty Python or you don't. No big deal.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 1:22 pm
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Since Life of Brian has been mentioned I guess its time to wheel this one out.....
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of Jesus - Not the 9 oclock news[/url]


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 1:24 pm
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would it be wrong to suggest that those who follow religion aren't bright enough to see that religion is all about the intelligent finding a way to keep order of the lessers in their society? Just an observation and based on no fact clearly


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 1:38 pm
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The older I get, the more annoyed I get with religion.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 2:03 pm
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I has annoyed a few hasn't it.

I've yet to understand why myself, why it's causing so much angst. But then I'm not of a religious nature and find a lot of whats on YouTube offensive, it's why I don't seek any of the stuf out.

I do susspect however that there is more to this story than just the Vid.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 2:41 pm
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I have and it's rubbish. I expect that many of the protestors haven't seen it but it's their right to be offended. I really do wish that religion would hurry up and go away.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 2:51 pm
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Pretty much every analysis ive read on this has said that while the video is given as a reason, peoples anger at corruption, occupying armies, the arab spring come-down + a lot of other factors are keeping it going

not to mention the various religous/political groups stoking the flames for their own agendas, it was broadcast in egypt the day b4 9/11 for a good reason


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 2:56 pm
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Am I the only person who doesn't find Life of Brian funny?

<points> BLASPHEMER!!!!


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 2:58 pm
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They're sitting ducks for offending seen as it seems to happen so easy.

Red-rag to a bull to a lot of people evidently.

There's more to come as well I hear.

The amount of people that condone their outrage is a bit contraversial than the video itself if you ask me.

OP - I've seen the film and it's junk - it's on Youtube btw.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 3:00 pm
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designed to cause offence and it has- no idea why they bothered tbh as it does not seem to make any actual point beyond being offensive.

Still pro free speech so I would let it be like i would with the religious and their message.

I do find it sad that religious folk dont like getting offended but they forget that their message is hugely offensive to a large number of us- gays bad, women lesser, your a sinner, immoral, gentile or infidel and all the other guff they spout


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 3:04 pm
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I do find it sad that religious folk dont like getting offended but they forget that their message is hugely offensive to a large number of us

Like the burning of the Union Jack and the 'Stars n Stripes' that regularly takes place...


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 3:22 pm
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These rioters etc remind me of the kind of people who write to Points of View etc to complain about how they had to sit through a programme that was full of sex and violence. If you don't like it, don't watch it!


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 3:26 pm
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I think you their "get" Monty Python or you don't. No big deal.

I loved the films, but I certainly didn't 'get' the TV series...I though it was mostly terrible.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 3:27 pm
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I may be r__eee__aaa__llll__yyyy stupid here.. so forgive the total ignorance.. but...

Lybia and places like that,( you know forign) I heard some access to the internet was banned, now it isn't, so folks have access to all sorts of stuff posted to YouTube etc..
I mean that Japanese Bloke that plays the Bass whilst dressed in a girls maids outfit would offend anyone right??


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 3:30 pm
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Like the burning of the Union Jack and the 'Stars n Stripes' that regularly takes place.

really that offends you?

youre not that much different from people being offended by the video then?


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 3:44 pm
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[b]Some[/b] followers of supposedly omnipotent deities are very quick to defend said omnipotent deities.

-Am I the only that find this slightly amusing?

Of course, young blokes of all religious persuasions like a riot, especially if they are disgruntled, poor or have an "evil" enemy. Followers of religion have been known to have scuffles with followers of [b][i]slightly[/i][/b] different flavours of the same religion, even in the British Isles. The religious aspect is fairly irrelevant, of course.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 4:05 pm
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kimbers - It's a degradation of a nation's identity so I imagine it will offend one or two.

Being offended isn't against any law I know of - the reactions of the peoples to the video in question is though.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 4:13 pm
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The religious aspect is fairly irrelevant, of course.

well it isn't really, maybe for the kids throwing stones, but not for the puppet masters pulling the strings.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 4:30 pm
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Like the burning of the Union Jack and the 'Stars n Stripes' that regularly takes place...

They were also buring effigaies of Obama whilst asking that their prophet be respected which i found rather [s]ironic[/s] tragic.

I was not offended by that but I am sure they would be offended if someone burned a book sacred to them, their flag or a picture of the prophet.

Its startling hypocrisy from the religious I find hard to tolerate.
Tolerate my [sometimes] offensive religious views lest you be a religious bigot but if you criticise my beliefs i will kill you.
So one way toleration for those who believe in a falsehood [ or at least something they cannot prove lest we get dragged into that].

that said I see little point in doing this as we know what the reaction will be and it hardly helps the situation.

I also liked listening to the ****stan minister preaching to us abut religious rights/freedoms in the west. therefore I shall be sending him a letter on human rights, womens rights and the rights of gays. I am sure he will be delighted to hear it and act immediately.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 4:48 pm
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Is it really about religion? Or is it that a bunch of people (predominately young blokes) like to get together have a bit of a shout and burn some stuff when they get given an excuse? I imagine if there was a nearby PC world they might raid it for ipods at the same time.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 4:53 pm
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On the subject of being offended

[url= http://www.thatvideosite.com/v/2822 ]here.[/url]

I've posted this before, but it's worth reposting I think.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 4:58 pm
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Is it really about religion? Or is it that a bunch of people (predominately young blokes) like to get together have a bit of a shout and burn some stuff when they get given an excuse?

One justifies the other. (Not to me but the perpertrators).

Their religion is a shroud for many evils ime, not just the ones that are in the media spot-light at the minute. It's a shroud that seems to have many 'educated' people in this country fooled too.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 5:03 pm
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Tucker as i always say that does not mean you have the right to be offensove for the sake of it either as we do have some stuff that is actually criminal to say as it is deemed so offensive.

Personally I think it is ok to make a point that may offend. I may say I think Islam is patriarchal for example and disrespectful of women and they may be offended.
however if i just want to call their prophet rude names, insult him, lie about his life and suggest he was a sex offender then really what sort of point am I trying to make other than to offend?
To be clear I am not I am just saying what the video does.
At its extreme it is like arguing for the right to behave like a dick.
legally I can stand outside someone house and call their wife a slag[ or other rude names no doubt] but it is it really an essential human right and do they really have no right to be offended by this or object?
Its to simplistic [checks and balances are required]to do and say as the comedian does [ though it is funny and he is right about boy bands.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 5:20 pm
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Their religion is a shroud for many evils ime, not just the ones that are in the media spot-light at the minute. It's a shroud that seems to have many 'educated' people in this country fooled too.

you can say that about any other religion

have you ever read the koran, in large parts its virtually identical to the old testament


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 5:34 pm
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I must have missed something. My understanding is the basic teachings of all religions is peace and kindness to others?
Cant confess to being religous my self but each to their own and that.
So its not an exagerated brand/ ross episode where more are complaining than actually wittnessing the event.


 
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Like the burning of the Union Jack and the 'Stars n Stripes' that regularly takes place.
really that offends you?

youre not that much different from people being offended by the video then?

To be honest I am offended by the burning of our flag. However I don't think i am anything like the people who were offended by that video. I express my feelings with a near audible tut and then move on. I think that is very different.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 6:17 pm
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I thought it was Where The Trail Ends that you lot were moaning about this week?


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 6:45 pm
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On a recent thread of this ilk I was slated for suggesting that veiled women might not wish to be veiled. [url= http://www.elle.fr/Societe/News/Elle-releve-son-voile-son-mari-la-frappe-683228 ]Well this lady lifted her veil to get some air and was promptly punched in the face by her husband.[/url] She was lucky, others have had their nose cut off..


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 7:29 pm
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you can say that about any other religion

How many terrorists/acts of terrorism do you hear of nowadays that's done in the name of any other religion than Islam?

Do any other holy books condone attacking those that don't follow the religion it preaches until they are conquered or converted?

Do any other religions promote violence and oppression to all those who disagree with it's idealistic verses?


 
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I thought it was Where The Trail Ends that you lot were moaning about this week?

Supposed to be garbage innit?


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 7:35 pm
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Jesus ordered his diciples to bring those that would not have him as their king before him and slaughter them.

Jacque Chirac's book relates how George Bush phoned him and tried to convince him to fulfil biblical prophecies by joining in with Gulf War II


 
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Jesus ordered his diciples to bring those that would not have him as their king before him and slaughter them.

So the problem is muslims rather than islam?


 
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