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[url= http://www.unicycle.uk.com/blog/brexit-the-effect-on-a-british-business/ ]Unicycles will be more expensive after Brexit[/url]

Not really a stretch to think that bike bits will be the same...


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 1:41 pm
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7 reasons Brexit will be good for MTB/cycling.

1/ Fewer lesser* people will be able to afford cars so more people will cycle.

2/ Travel abroad will be more expensive so UK trail centers will thrive.

3/ Locally made products will be more competitive due to lower wages and the higher cost of imports. So all those British-made parts on your bike will cost less. If the Brexit had happened years ago I might have saved 10p on the head set spacer.

4/ There won't be any Polish plumbers to fix your central heating. You'll have healthy freezing showers all year round and save a fortune on your gas bill that you can blow on bikes.

5/ Those French kids that organised their séjour linguistique in London will go to Dublin instead so there won't be any of the little brats playing chicken with commuter cyclists on zebra crossings.

6/ Singletrack won't have to worry about any silly European laws.

7/ Your boss will be able to work you harder so you'll be too tired to ride your bike so you'll have a lower risk of over training or over-use injuries.

Whilst entirely tongue in cheek these arguments stand up to examination a lot better than some of the Out/in propaganda.

* stealth edit for sandwich


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 1:43 pm
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Whilst entirely tongue in cheek these arguments stand up to examination a lot better than some of the Out/in propaganda.

I'm sold.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 1:45 pm
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Less people will be able to afford

There's some good irony right there.

Fewer, chap, fewer.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 1:47 pm
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and look at all the good it did them...

Sort of the point I was trying to make - when it comes down to it a lot of the most vocal people are actually hypocritical when it comes to their own self-interest.

I would have also quoted Samuel Johnson if I hadn't known it would be seized upon.

"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel".

What he was actually getting at was [u]misappropriation[/u] of patriotism is the weapon of last resort for the scoundrel (but it doesn't sound quite as snappy as the original).

In this case I think it is patriotic to vote remain - because it is the best thing for the country (and what patriot wouldn't want that?)


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 1:49 pm
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[i]and look at all the good it did them... [/i]

Indeed.

Did the right thing during the Battle of Cable Street and 40 years later let fear overcome their decency.

[i]Bernard Kops was a young boy of 10 when Mosley and his supporters decided the best way of demonstrating their potency was to march through the heart of London's Jewish community in Cable Street on 4 October 1936.

He says for many of the older generation of Jews, like his parents, there was a growing sense of paranoia: "My mother said there were only two types of people in the world. Jews and Jew-haters.

"Of course, when Cable Street came along the Irish labourers and dockers came out and it was them that really made sure Mosley didn't get through.
"My mother and father really had to change their minds after that and accept that others did come to help us out." [/i]


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 1:50 pm
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let fear overcome their decency
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Or gave way to their inherent underlying prejudices.

It depends very much on how you spin that one.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 1:52 pm
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Europe is the home of the white man.We are under attack from the horde in the east.
We need a strong secure homeland to protect the cradle of civilisation.
A vote In is a vote to protect the most persecuted race on the planet.
Is that right wing enough OP?


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 1:53 pm
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The tide of mechanisation and then globalisation made them irrelevant.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 1:54 pm
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Europe is the home of the white man.We are under attack from the horde in the east.
We need a strong secure homeland to protect the cradle of civilisation.
A vote In is a vote to protect the most persecuted race on the planet.

You sure you're not Russian? 😉


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 2:02 pm
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clodhopper - He drove over his own head!

He ran over his own stomach because he had eaten three giant baked potatoes with cheese, tuna and mayonnaise.

Can we keep to the facts please.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 2:11 pm
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As I've said before Turkey's voting for Christmas...

1) Turkey's largely moslem, so unlikely to vote for Christmas
2) Turkey's not in the EU so irrelevant here

How [i]will[/i] pedantry fare if we have a Brexit ?


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 2:13 pm
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Ahmm. Scaredypants.

Go back and redo your work. C minus.

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C minus.

very generous!


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 2:23 pm
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How will pedantry fare if we have a Brexit ?

I heard that Bru's'sel's want's to make apostrophe's compul'sory.

Théy'll bé insisting on funny littlé squigglés over léttérs soon.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 2:23 pm
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Another take on the subject from Wide Open mag

[url= http://wideopenmag.co.uk/2016/06/eu-referendu-brexit-mean-mountain-bikers ]Wide Open[/url]


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 2:28 pm
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We can have shops specifically for it if we stay in but we have to change the spelling so it's a bit of a score draw on that front.

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Posted : 16/06/2016 2:29 pm
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@dannyh

I'm gratified that I presented an opportunity for amusement, had I known this at the time, I'd have gone the full Godwin.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 2:31 pm
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or telling you not to go to Spain.

Phew that's a relief.

Want to come back on any of that, "Joe"?


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 2:33 pm
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Want to come back on any of that, "Joe"?

He's joined the Aryan Brotherhood of Single Speeders Forum, where he feels more at home.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 2:36 pm
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Not to mention that the UK would be in a position to then reduce it's VAT as it sees fit.

Except our books still don't balance so tax cuts are unlikely (cat in hells chance).

And the UK is currently chosing to set its VAT rate 33% higher than the EU minimum (20% vs 15%), so how is removing the EU minimum going to affect anything at all?


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 2:37 pm
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Well put OP. Final straw for me, STW has been disappearing up its own arse for years.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 3:02 pm
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Oi, Footflaps.

Leave us SSers out of this. I know we're weird, but still. 😯

We're more about suffering, excuses, lewd innuendo, and blatant knob gags. And drinking......


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 3:05 pm
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🙄

Anyone else think that 'immigrant' is this decades racial slur?


 
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Well put OP. Final straw for me, STW has been disappearing up its own arse for years.

Speaking of arses - door, way out, hit you in the... 😀


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 3:07 pm
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Well put OP. Final straw for me, STW has been disappearing up its own arse for years.

Other websites are available.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 3:07 pm
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Final straw for me, STW has been disappearing up its own arse for years.

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Posted : 16/06/2016 3:10 pm
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[url= http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/655219/Donald-Trump-EU-Brexit-blessing-crazy-migration ]Brexit makes sense for Britons "especially in the light of the craziness of the migration chaos".[/url]

Says it all really.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 3:12 pm
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Do we have a flounce, going once, going twice....


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 3:17 pm
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It does. If Trump says yes, I say no. To anything. Odious man.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 3:17 pm
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Final straw for me, STW has been disappearing up its own arse for years.

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Posted : 16/06/2016 3:30 pm
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I thought i'd give the express article about Trump a quick skim read. I got as far as "in his interview with Peirs Morgan"


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 3:30 pm
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Says it all really.

Yup. It says anyone who links to the express is Daily Mail reader is denial.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 3:32 pm
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How angry are you gonna be when they do the "7 reasons brexit will be good for MTB" article later on?

Reason 1: We can all spend £350 million per week on bikes!
Reason 2: We can also spend the same £350 million per week on trails!
Reason 3: The trails will all be smoother because just like the traffic on the M4, all the wear is caused my immigrants
Reason 4: Sovereignty!!1!
Reason 5: Bob Geldof is a ****
Reason 6: Smog. Well it didn't make any sense in the first article either
Reason 7: It'll really annoy THM


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 3:35 pm
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I'm for remain - but that article is dreadful - sensible for bike journos to stick to their knitting.


 
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I'm VERY left wing (as in, I think the Guardian is a puppet of the establishment, left wing) and I might well be voting out

You must be one of these people which jambalaya described as 'further left than lefty'.

I thought it was just me.


 
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@dannyh

I'm gratified that I presented an opportunity for amusement, had I known this at the time, I'd have gone the full Godwin.

I'm glad you feel gratified - I just found it a bit strange that you immediately steamed in with all the usual 'isms' - even though you are probably barking up the right tree. It would have done your cause much better to actually pick the OP up on what was said rather than giving in to the usual tribal mud slinging. In doing so you then open yourself up to being portrayed as a 'sandal-wearing, lentil-munching, hand-wringing lefty' or whatever is the current stereotype peddled by the likes of the Mail/Express/Beano/Dandy etc.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 4:18 pm
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I'm for remain - but that article is dreadful - sensible for bike journos to stick to [s]their knitting[/s] [b]printing press releases verbatim[/b].

FTFY


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 4:25 pm
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@dannyh

You may make whatever assumptions about my online persona as you please.

In part, I took exception to the OP's expressed view "[i]...Firstly the constant prissiness about women in maxxis catalogues etc...[/i]" - it's probably fair to assume that the author is not female. There's been a number of pretty offensive replied to the STW social media feed on this subject, which have become rather tiresome IMHO.

Then there's "[i]If I wanted to read a self-righteous left wing tabloid, I could go on the Guardian and cry myself fragile little self to sleep at night[/i]" which can fairly be described as tribal.

As I said before, feel free to apply whatever stereotype you feel appropriate, it's a public forum and so far as I'm concerned, my posts abide by the moderator's rules.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 4:34 pm
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Fair enough - the OP was deliberately confrontational so lowering yourself to the level to have a pop back is understandable even if it does the debate few favours.

So, do 'lefties' still wear socks under their sandals? 😉


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 4:45 pm
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@dannyh

For the sake of maintaining any assumptions about my online persona I'm going to say that we tend to wear Fair Trade baseball boots these days, as sandals, socks AND lentils can prove to be an uncomfortable combination.


 
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So, do 'lefties' still wear socks under their sandals?

if:

A) it's cold

and

B) my wife isn't looking

then yes.

much more sensible than wearing socks [i]over[/i] my sandals, that would just be stupid.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 4:58 pm
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Reason 7: It'll really annoy THM

But really please Jambalaya

Hmmm...

I guess I'm now undecided


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 5:08 pm
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Kind of sick of the pathetic self righteousness that the magazine seems to be pressing at the moment. Firstly the constant prissiness about women in maxxis catalogues etc. and now you're trying to ram remain down our throats, by some spurious link to cycling.

Joe does mummy and daddy know youre on the internet, ask them to explain internet discussions and views to you.


 
Posted : 16/06/2016 5:14 pm
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Yeah, come on Joe, come back to us, it's boring arguing amongst ourselves...


 
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