[Closed] They only wanted a damm cake, But

The most annoying part of all of this remains the elevation of gay-bashing into the ranks of true Christian virtues.

There are people out there asking themselves "what would Jesus do?" and repeatedly coming to the conclusion* that Jesus would, above all else, be mean to the gays. While I don't have a remotely close relationship with Jesus (if he were a band, I'd only have his Greatest Hits compilation), I don't recognise the depiction of him as basically a mean-minded and prurient git. This saddens me slightly, in the same way as people claiming that Buddha never tipped in restaurants would.

*based on a close reading of Leviticus and St Paul's Letter to the Frantic Masturbators and not a fat lot else.

Jesus - never married, hung out with 12 other men.

ahh, Jesus, the magic baby born to a virgin, who died and then came back to life. Nothing 'unnatural' about that

We should respect others beliefs and way of life but you shouldnt be told that you have to agree with it on a personal level.

To me thats democracy.

Thats in general.

The cake design- why did it have to have childrens characters on it?

I was once asked in all seriousness by a work colleague if there was a time zone change when flying to Ulster. My reply "yes. they are about 60 years behind the more enlightened parts of the mainland".
Try the steaks, I'm here all week... etc.

Presumably you live in a more enlightened part of the mainland looking down on the rest with contempt....hoooray for you 🙄

I'm really happy with the outcome of this case and agree NI does need a kick up the ass so far as using religious beliefs as an excuse to discriminate.

There's one thing that has always puzzled me on points like this.

“.... We consider that it is necessary as Christians to have a clear conscience before God. This means that we must live out our faith in our words and deeds and that it would be sinful to act or speak contrary to God’s law.”

What they appear to be saying is that they have to stand up for what the believe in (fair enough) and that they will have to answer to God if they don't (fair enough if that's what you believe). Surely then it would be [i]better[/i] to be punished by your "enemies" as that would make you a martyr and that judgments like this shouldn't be fought by Christians; they should be welcomed.

"We should respect others beliefs and way of life but you shouldnt be told that you have to agree with it on a personal level."
Exactly the point of the judgement.
Exactly why a businesses cannot withhold its trade from and discriminate against a portion of the general public.

hora

The cake design- why did it have to have childrens characters on it?

Hora, are you familiar with the idea that Bert and Ernie are a gay couple? It was doing the rounds when I was at primary school, it's been a rumour/joke for nearly 40 years.

it's been a rumour/joke

Largely its a 'in' joke. However on a wedding cake?

My Dad is a Church of Scotland Minister, cut his teeth in Riccarton since there is another Kilmarnock native on this thread. He describes homophobic bigotry on what he sees as another one of Gods creations as "Bollocks" I assume that is a religious term?

He describes homophobic bigotry on what he sees as another one of Gods creations as "Bollocks" I assume that is a religious term?

Sounds like one to me. Excellent.

🙂

The gay fellas got off lightly.

Did you the mess that they made of the one for Clint Eastwood?
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hora

Largely its a 'in' joke. However on a wedding cake?

It wasn't a wedding cake. Gay marriage isn't recognised in under Northern Irish law thanks to the DUP.

*starts the stopwatch on the cake picture*

Nobody else going to point out that it's "Damn" not damm ?

Sorry, that's all I've got.

Could so nearly have been one of these

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Yes the Bert and Ernie "connection" annoys me too.

'They are not gay, they are not straight, they are puppets,' says Sesame Workshop President and CEO Gary Knell. 'They don't exist below the waist.'

I do get the feeling the bakers were trolled to some extent by the gay gentleman, because he knew how they would react.
However, if you replace "gay" for "black" does it still seem as palatable?
In short no.

I genuinely can't see the reason why people get so upset about making a cake. It's not like it's the cake's fault is it? It's just a cake. It's there to be made, made to be eaten, made to be enjoyed, probably with a nice cup of tea.

Mmmmm. Cake.

I might go and get some cake now.

And some tea.

hora - Member

We should respect others beliefs and way of life but you shouldnt be told that you have to agree with it on a personal level.

Nobody's been told they have to agree with it. They just have to not be dicks about it.

willard - Member

I genuinely can't see the reason why people get so upset about making a cake.

Because it's Northern Ireland. Here there's a concerted effort to marginalise LGBT people in any way possible by creationist christian nut bags, who happen to be running the country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_Robinson#Comments_about_homosexuality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Robinson_%28politician%29#Views_on_homosexuality

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-30733667

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-32443730

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/11/northern-ireland-edwin-poots-creationist-anti-gay

Morning all. God, eh? Eh? Tch...

Went to 8 bloody pages last time
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/same-sex-marridge-cake

I got bored after the 'fudge cake' joke.

I do get the feeling the bakers were trolled to some extent by the gay gentleman, because he knew how they would react.
However, if you replace "gay" for "black" does it still seem as palatable?
In short no.

Given that it's Northern Ireland I'd suggest using "Catholic" or "Protestant" rather than "black"

"I do get the feeling the bakers were trolled to some extent by the gay gentleman, because he knew how they would react."

Of course the feeling can be allayed by reading the facts it was his local bakery he had used before. They accepted the order when he placed it.The cake could have been more Gay if it was a deliberate troll.

They could easily have avoided and confounded the Troll by just baking the cake.

Now Rosa Parks she was a deliberate Troll.

Err, dont try and turn this around to make me look like the troll please.

Would they have made a cake saying the "I love the pope"?

Ian Paisley would have found that hard to swallow....

I'll get my coat!!

What if it had been some satanists wanting a "happy corruptor of souls and devourer of worlds day" cake? who wins then?
or more seriously

Given that it's Northern Ireland I'd suggest using "Catholic" or "Protestant" rather than "black

what happens when 2 religions go head to head

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Let them eat cake*.

*Not GayCake™ though as that is a sin.

Just been anounced Mr and Mr Kipling are bringing out gay cakes, and theyre not fairy cakes.

Missed the satrt of the conversation - what's the big deal?
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