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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-28206581
think they took the cake there on purpose to get a reaction lol
on a side note this PC crap goes too far.
They discriminated on the design of the cake, not of the customer. If a straight couple had asked for that design it still would of been refused.
Obvious troll is obvious.
PC crap? So you agree with the bakery?
[i]..cake featuring the Sesame Street puppets, Bert and Ernie[/i]
Til I read it I thought they'd asked for an image of a sex act or something!
Was it a fudge cake?
Always good to know where the intolerance is.
Good to see someone sticking up for what they believe in.
[i]Was it a fudge cake?[/i]
I must be an intolerant, cos I laughed
Not a comment on the fudge cake gag...
More on the people who choose to discriminate.
What a bunch of idiots - they should have just refused on copyright grounds and that would have been the end of it!
The order was placed as they knew they'd get a reaction, the company (which I have no connection to but live locally so I'm well aware of their stance) have refused other work in the past that they didn't feel they could put their name to.
If I went to a baker and asked to make a jesus/allah/giant flying spaghetti monster cake and they baker wasn't comfortable with it as he was of another faith I'd be pretty sure that in a world of freedom and liberty that it was their right not to have to do something they were at odds with.
Pretty ridiculous situation really that it's got this far, I'd have refused to do it on the grounds that Bert and Ernie are kids tv characters not gay icons
What a bunch of idiots - they should have just refused on copyright grounds and that would have been the end of it!
Would have been a good plan - but I suspect that like many cakemakers they do a fine range of Disney Princess cakes which I doubt they've paid the royalties for.
Besides the 24 year old general [s]bigot[/s] manager said he wanted to take a stand.
(Not a cake stand presumably)
Won't bert and ernie be copyright/tyrademarked whatever so could have been refused due to that.
I know Asda won't let you have cake toppers of copyrighted stuff.
I did wonderThe order was placed as they knew they'd get a reaction
well that makes him an idiot then. Copyright or some wishy washy excuse fair enough, they'd get away with it, but "making a stand" is escalation and when you're on dodgy ground that's pretty daft.Besides the 24 year old general bigot manager said he wanted to take a stand.
Can't believe it's made the BBC news, to be honest.
Wouldn't you just go to a different cake shop?
[i] any Christians running a business could be allowed to follow their Christian beliefs[/i]
= just go somewhere else
any Christians running a business could be allowed to follow their Christian beliefs
= just go somewhere else
+1
Clearly they've only done it for a reaction. The thing that pisses me off is that if this was something that went against/offended any other faith and they refused then it would be considered fine, as we are a diverse and tolerent society that respects other peoples beliefs. Same doesn't appear to apply to christianity however...
Rosa Parks should have just taken a different bus.
sauce?The thing that pisses me off is that if this was something that went against/offended any other faith and they refused then it would be considered fine,
Some people just want to buy their cake and eat it.
any Christians running a business could be allowed to follow their Christian beliefs
= just go somewhere else
Perhaps they could put a sign up explaining what kind of people they don't serve. As a whole bunch of Christians have no problem with gay people. It would make life simpler for people.
Clearly they've only done it for a reaction.
Have to be honest, I don't know the religious beliefs of any of the bakeries I shop at. Is this something I should be paying attention to?
Good to see someone sticking up for what they believe in.
Absolutely - it's good that the customer is taking this further.
The thing that pisses me off is that if this was something that went against/offended any other faith and they refused then it would be considered fine
Being gay is not a faith? Skin colour would be a closer analogy - and what then?
I do love this inclusive and tolerant society we're living in nowadays, now excuse me while I go and get the Halal butcher up the road prosecuted for refusing to sell me any bacon!
Perhaps they could put a sign up explaining what kind of people they don't serve.
They'll serve anyone, maybe a sign saying they won't make cakes with supporting things they don't agree with?
I think tpbiker is suggesting if the same couple went into a muslim bakers and they were refused, it would be ok - which I [s]think is bollocks[/s] am dubious aboutBeing gay is not a faith? Skin colour would be a closer analogy - and what then?
is he selling bacon to other people? Can I sue Boots for not selling xtr rear mechs to me?excuse me while I go and get the Halal butcher up the road prosecuted for refusing to sell me any bacon!
I do love this inclusive and tolerant society we're living in nowadays, now excuse me while I go and get the Halal butcher up the road prosecuted for refusing to sell me any bacon!
You'd like to have a butcher prosecuted for something they don't sell? Why not ask them for a kilo of potatoes while you're at it?
Being gay is not a faith
emmm yep I realise that. Read again...
[i]on a side note this PC crap goes too far.[/i]
Oh? Something tells me your just dying to say more..
Being gay is not a faith? Skin colour would be a closer analogy
Hmm, homosexuality - lifestyle choice or genetics? Theres an interesting one...
PC crap? So you agree with the bakery
in a way yes, would their be all this hulabalu if they had asked for a swastkia cake lol.
Ah, sorry tpbiker, speedreading error. You mean like [url= http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/03/02/muslim-barber-refuses-cut-hair-lesbian-whose-rights-trump-whose/ ]this?[/url]
Hmm, homosexuality - lifestyle choice or genetics? Theres an interesting one...
I'm going to get a nobel prize for finding the gay gene lol
in a way yes, would their be all this hulabalu if they had asked for a swastkia cake lol.
Are nazis a persecuted minority group that thanks to years of discrimination require the protection of the law?
tpbiker - MemberThe thing that pisses me off is that if this was something that went against/offended any other faith and they refused then it would be considered fine, as we are a diverse and tolerent society that respects other peoples beliefs. Same doesn't appear to apply to christianity however...
I must have missed the 11th commandment, thou shalt not bake homocakes. You can not approve of in gay marriage all you want but they're not being asked to approve gay marriage, they're being asked to bake a cake.
I must have missed the 11th commandment, thou shalt not bake homocakes. You can not approve of in gay marriage all you want but they're not being asked to approve gay marriage, they're being asked to bake a cake.
Presumably, the bakery also refuses to bake cakes for menstruating women...
Are nazis a persecuted minority group that thanks to years of discrimination require the protection of the law?
the swastka is much more than a symbol stolen by the nazi's.
a simple ''no i dont want to do that'' would suffice surely. as artisan cake makers they cant be forced to make any cake there asked to.
i am am often asked to work in properties and its certainly something i ve said before.
Well, even nazi's have a right to freedom of political belief and expression: http://www.theguardian.com/law/2012/nov/06/bnp-bus-driver-wins-legal-case
Interesting that the Christian Institute is involved in this. Absolute nutcases obsessed with preventing any steps towards equality for the LGBT community. I'm on a phone so links are a PITA - but just googling the list of challenges they've brought over the last decade tells you all you need to know about them. If Political Correctness makes life difficult for this group and its members, then go for it. I hope the bakery is dragged through the court. Arseholes.




