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 poah
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-28206581

think they took the cake there on purpose to get a reaction lol

on a side note this PC crap goes too far.


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:20 am
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They discriminated on the design of the cake, not of the customer. If a straight couple had asked for that design it still would of been refused.


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:24 am
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Obvious troll is obvious.


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:25 am
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PC crap? So you agree with the bakery?


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:25 am
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[i]..cake featuring the Sesame Street puppets, Bert and Ernie[/i]

Til I read it I thought they'd asked for an image of a sex act or something!


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:27 am
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think they took the cake there on purpose to get a reaction lol

Yes, obviously. Good on them.

on a side note this PC crap goes too far.

Yeah what's wrong with a bit of good old discrimination eh?

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Posted : 08/07/2014 11:29 am
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Was it a fudge cake?


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:29 am
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Always good to know where the intolerance is.


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:30 am
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Good to see someone sticking up for what they believe in.


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:35 am
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[i]Was it a fudge cake?[/i]

I must be an intolerant, cos I laughed


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:38 am
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Not a comment on the fudge cake gag...

More on the people who choose to discriminate.


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:39 am
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What a bunch of idiots - they should have just refused on copyright grounds and that would have been the end of it!


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:41 am
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The order was placed as they knew they'd get a reaction, the company (which I have no connection to but live locally so I'm well aware of their stance) have refused other work in the past that they didn't feel they could put their name to.

If I went to a baker and asked to make a jesus/allah/giant flying spaghetti monster cake and they baker wasn't comfortable with it as he was of another faith I'd be pretty sure that in a world of freedom and liberty that it was their right not to have to do something they were at odds with.

Pretty ridiculous situation really that it's got this far, I'd have refused to do it on the grounds that Bert and Ernie are kids tv characters not gay icons


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:45 am
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What a bunch of idiots - they should have just refused on copyright grounds and that would have been the end of it!

Would have been a good plan - but I suspect that like many cakemakers they do a fine range of Disney Princess cakes which I doubt they've paid the royalties for.

Besides the 24 year old general [s]bigot[/s] manager said he wanted to take a stand.

(Not a cake stand presumably)


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:48 am
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Won't bert and ernie be copyright/tyrademarked whatever so could have been refused due to that.

I know Asda won't let you have cake toppers of copyrighted stuff.

The order was placed as they knew they'd get a reaction
I did wonder
Besides the 24 year old general bigot manager said he wanted to take a stand.
well that makes him an idiot then. Copyright or some wishy washy excuse fair enough, they'd get away with it, but "making a stand" is escalation and when you're on dodgy ground that's pretty daft.


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:50 am
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Can't believe it's made the BBC news, to be honest.
Wouldn't you just go to a different cake shop?

[i] any Christians running a business could be allowed to follow their Christian beliefs[/i]
= just go somewhere else


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:51 am
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Besides the 24 year old general bigot manager said he wanted to take a stand.
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This guy?


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:52 am
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any Christians running a business could be allowed to follow their Christian beliefs
= just go somewhere else

+1

Clearly they've only done it for a reaction. The thing that pisses me off is that if this was something that went against/offended any other faith and they refused then it would be considered fine, as we are a diverse and tolerent society that respects other peoples beliefs. Same doesn't appear to apply to christianity however...


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:56 am
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Rosa Parks should have just taken a different bus.


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 11:58 am
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The thing that pisses me off is that if this was something that went against/offended any other faith and they refused then it would be considered fine,
sauce?


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:01 pm
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Some people just want to buy their cake and eat it.


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:01 pm
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any Christians running a business could be allowed to follow their Christian beliefs
= just go somewhere else

Perhaps they could put a sign up explaining what kind of people they don't serve. As a whole bunch of Christians have no problem with gay people. It would make life simpler for people.


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:03 pm
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Clearly they've only done it for a reaction.

Have to be honest, I don't know the religious beliefs of any of the bakeries I shop at. Is this something I should be paying attention to?


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:03 pm
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Good to see someone sticking up for what they believe in.

Absolutely - it's good that the customer is taking this further.


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:08 pm
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The thing that pisses me off is that if this was something that went against/offended any other faith and they refused then it would be considered fine

Being gay is not a faith? Skin colour would be a closer analogy - and what then?


 
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Not very Christian of them...[img] [/img]


 
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I do love this inclusive and tolerant society we're living in nowadays, now excuse me while I go and get the Halal butcher up the road prosecuted for refusing to sell me any bacon!


 
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Perhaps they could put a sign up explaining what kind of people they don't serve.

They'll serve anyone, maybe a sign saying they won't make cakes with supporting things they don't agree with?


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:10 pm
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Being gay is not a faith? Skin colour would be a closer analogy - and what then?
I think tpbiker is suggesting if the same couple went into a muslim bakers and they were refused, it would be ok - which I [s]think is bollocks[/s] am dubious about

excuse me while I go and get the Halal butcher up the road prosecuted for refusing to sell me any bacon!
is he selling bacon to other people? Can I sue Boots for not selling xtr rear mechs to me?


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:13 pm
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I do love this inclusive and tolerant society we're living in nowadays, now excuse me while I go and get the Halal butcher up the road prosecuted for refusing to sell me any bacon!

You'd like to have a butcher prosecuted for something they don't sell? Why not ask them for a kilo of potatoes while you're at it?


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:13 pm
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Being gay is not a faith

emmm yep I realise that. Read again...


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:14 pm
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[i]on a side note this PC crap goes too far.[/i]

Oh? Something tells me your just dying to say more..


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:15 pm
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Being gay is not a faith? Skin colour would be a closer analogy

Hmm, homosexuality - lifestyle choice or genetics? Theres an interesting one...


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:17 pm
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PC crap? So you agree with the bakery

in a way yes, would their be all this hulabalu if they had asked for a swastkia cake lol.


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:17 pm
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something more subtle perhaps

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Posted : 08/07/2014 12:18 pm
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Meanwhile in the bakery..

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Ah, sorry tpbiker, speedreading error. You mean like [url= http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/03/02/muslim-barber-refuses-cut-hair-lesbian-whose-rights-trump-whose/ ]this?[/url]


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:18 pm
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Hmm, homosexuality - lifestyle choice or genetics? Theres an interesting one...

I'm going to get a nobel prize for finding the gay gene lol


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:19 pm
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in a way yes, would their be all this hulabalu if they had asked for a swastkia cake lol.

Are nazis a persecuted minority group that thanks to years of discrimination require the protection of the law?


 
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The thing that pisses me off is that if this was something that went against/offended any other faith and they refused then it would be considered fine, as we are a diverse and tolerent society that respects other peoples beliefs. Same doesn't appear to apply to christianity however...

I must have missed the 11th commandment, thou shalt not bake homocakes. You can not approve of in gay marriage all you want but they're not being asked to approve gay marriage, they're being asked to bake a cake.


 
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I must have missed the 11th commandment, thou shalt not bake homocakes. You can not approve of in gay marriage all you want but they're not being asked to approve gay marriage, they're being asked to bake a cake.

Presumably, the bakery also refuses to bake cakes for menstruating women...


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:22 pm
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Are nazis a persecuted minority group that thanks to years of discrimination require the protection of the law?

the swastka is much more than a symbol stolen by the nazi's.


 
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a simple ''no i dont want to do that'' would suffice surely. as artisan cake makers they cant be forced to make any cake there asked to.
i am am often asked to work in properties and its certainly something i ve said before.


 
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Well, even nazi's have a right to freedom of political belief and expression: http://www.theguardian.com/law/2012/nov/06/bnp-bus-driver-wins-legal-case


 
Posted : 08/07/2014 12:25 pm
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Interesting that the Christian Institute is involved in this. Absolute nutcases obsessed with preventing any steps towards equality for the LGBT community. I'm on a phone so links are a PITA - but just googling the list of challenges they've brought over the last decade tells you all you need to know about them. If Political Correctness makes life difficult for this group and its members, then go for it. I hope the bakery is dragged through the court. Arseholes.


 
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