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No, I can read alright.

But never the twain will meet. I made a provocative comment and you responded with some proxy threats. As I said, we can just disagree disrespectfully. I really don't mind a but of robust argument.


 
Posted : 11/11/2012 9:52 pm
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funnily enough I wasn't just meaning to the anti's though.
hehe I was going to add a "unless you meant the other (anti thread) people" 🙂

I think the racist joke is not a good analogy, don't think what's been said is bad, i just mentioned the rememberance thread coz on there those comments would be seen as disrespectful. The pink skateboarder was just protesting but where he did it was massively disrespectful.


 
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Whereas when you don't like other people's opinions you make irrelevant digs about Communist dictators?

Not irrelevant given the politics he espouses and the proclamation of being an 'internationalist'.

I keep seeing an image of the credulous 'approved' pressmen nodding and smiling whilst being shown around engineering feats in 30's Russia - I can recall Muggeridge as a 'standout' dissenting voice.

It's amazing what mental backflips you can perform when you are dogmatic and inflexible - whatever your political stripe.

Anyway, I a-g-r-e-e w-i-t-h e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g c-o-m-r-a-d-e r-u-d-e-b-w-o-y s-a-y-s.

I also trust he'll deal with my counter-revolutionary heresy in a fair and just way, I only hope I can live up to the example set for me by our dear leader.


 
Posted : 11/11/2012 9:52 pm
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[i]If you cant see why your comment is hurtful, well. theres little point in continuing this dialogue.[/i]

That's the point. That's the whole point of debating things.

You can try to make the other person see why their words have upset you.

More of that sort of stuff and less of the heavily armoured stuff and who knows....we might have less to remember on this important day.


 
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My grandfather who was injured and captured in wwii, was also a life long communist, he had no issue with fighting fascists, naturally, but he did regard the army as the iron boot of the ruling class.


 
Posted : 11/11/2012 9:53 pm
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Classic Crikey;

or made to shut up for daring not to tow the correct nationalistic tone as approved by The Sun.

Evidence please, although bonus marks for suggesting anybody who is patriotic/nationalistic/disagrees with you, is obviously a Sun reader.


 
Posted : 11/11/2012 9:57 pm
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I made a provocative comment

Thats all the proof I needed.

You admit making a comment with no other aim other than getting a reaction (why else would you use the word provocative if the aim wasnt so?)

Pathetic.


 
Posted : 11/11/2012 9:57 pm
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Danny h don't confuse stalinism with communism, easy for making cheap shots, but if you want to have discourse best to try and be civil about it. you seem to make lots of assumptions, which while they may provide you with comfort, are not really very helpful.


 
Posted : 11/11/2012 10:00 pm
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Evidence please, although bonus marks for suggesting anybody who is patriotic/nationalistic/disagrees with you, is obviously a Sun reader.

Evidence of what? There's several people who've called for the thread to be closed, for people to be banned, and who've made threats about what will happen to people who express alternative views - read the thread and find them yourself.

I never claimed everyone who disagrees is a Sun reader, it's just that the kind of views expressed by some of the 'poppy fascists' in this thread could come straight out of a Richard Littlejohn editorial.

You admit making a comment with no other aim other than getting a reaction (why else would you use the word provocative if the aim wasnt so?)

Pathetic.

Well it seems to have succeeded in revealing the true colours of a few who claim to be celebrating our troops contribution to freedom, by making threats to those who don't show sufficient 'respect'.


 
Posted : 11/11/2012 10:02 pm
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This thread is an STW low point.


 
Posted : 11/11/2012 10:04 pm
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This thread is an STW low point.

Why?

Has your post helped in some way?


 
Posted : 11/11/2012 10:06 pm
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[i]This thread is an STW low point.[/i]

If people are talking and not hurting each other, I'd say it's a high point.


 
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Danny h don't confuse stalinism with communism

I don't - it's just that in the experience of the 20th Century, the dictatorship of the proleteriat (as proposed by Marx) became not the 'stepping stone' he envisaged, but the defining characteristic of real-world communism.

If you're saying we just got the 'wrong kind' of communism, then fine, but you could say that about any seemingly benign ideology that turned out nasty.

My problem with communism (or even anarchism) is that it simply is not compatible with human nature.

You never know, though, given rising population and competition for scarce resources - a sort of driven-by-necessity internationalism may still be on the cards. I'm not taking the piss now - but it would be a

product
of circumstance, not the other way around.


 
Posted : 11/11/2012 10:08 pm
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This thread is an STW low point.

Sorry, no. That would be [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-do-you-like-to-say-before-during-or-after-a-fart ]here[/url].


 
Posted : 11/11/2012 10:11 pm
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Thats all the proof I needed.
You admit making a comment with no other aim other than getting a reaction (why else would you use the word provocative if the aim wasnt so?)

Proof of what? Why, was I denying it earlier? Thank jeebus you don't make the laws round here if that's your level of proof. It was supposed to be provocative you eejit. Insensitive or hurtful? Nope...it wasn't supposed to be. But I wasn't trying to win any friends with it either. You continue to refuse to explain why you're so hurt by it.

(I also note your continued ignoring of my comments re. your proxy threats. On the one hand all hurty whingey and on the other, all rufty tufty happily wagering on me getting a good kicking. You need to make up your mind how you're feeling this evening.)


 
Posted : 11/11/2012 10:15 pm
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I have been out this eveing with some freinds and met a few people who have lost loved ones in conflict. Northern Ireland, Falklands, Iraq and Afgan.

Now I read some posts here earlier and have read a few now. I mentioned some of the comments. Some of my freinds were disgusted.

STW has reached a new low. The recent bannings just made way for a new clutch of "big hotters".

Now relly I am so not arsed about a ban so those who do not wish to respect fallen heroes thats their choice but d1ckheaddarcy reached a new low with his comments about those remembering our fallen heroes.

Darcy you are that pink skater. We feel sensetive about people who have given of them selves all year not just today. I also respect the fallen soldiers of other armies as they are doing a job an paying the ultimate price.

How sensetive would you be if I were to take the p1ss out of your loved ones whoi had passed away.

There are several people here who have balanced arguments. others have a point of view.

BUT darcy I am afraid you reached a low point and unfortunately I actually usually like what you say, but not today.


 
Posted : 11/11/2012 10:17 pm
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Well, I'm at a loss now...

Darcy you are that pink skater.

Well, it did happen in Bristol, so not that far from me. And to be honest, I realise it may have been a mistake giving away my location...


 
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